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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:53 pm
by Shadow
jet-6 wrote:There too BLING, they BLING you off the road with all there rice!
shit

forgot to account for the bling factor!

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:55 pm
by Trusa
I run blue lenses on my light forces and I believe they increase visibility in rain and snow fall.

I believe they are legal because they only look blue when they are turned off. Turn them on and look at them and they do not look blue, they look white. Try it.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:26 pm
by chunderlicious
sorry shadow i forgot you know more about this than anyone else like every other argument you get in on this forum. heres an idea go out with a set of neons on under or even in your car and drive past a few cop cars on friday night...... even better a DOT patrol on the side of the road. see what they think. ive been through this proccess they are illegal. :roll:

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:29 pm
by Shadow
chunderlicious wrote:sorry shadow i forgot you know more about this than anyone else like every other argument you get in on this forum. heres an idea go out with a set of neons on under or even in your car and drive past a few cop cars on friday night...... even better a DOT patrol on the side of the road. see what they think. ive been through this proccess they are illegal. :roll:
Thats funny, I asked the DOT officer at the qld transport office at bundal if they are illegal. He does the majority of the inspections of vehicles that are defected by police or other DOT officers. He said they arent illegal, whats illegal, is having a green, blue, red, orange, purple, etc, coloured light.

It was him that told me that if they were pink he would have a hard time deeming them not to comply.

So who did you speak to on the matter?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:02 am
by chunderlicious
defect on missus car. took it to pinapple street, they straight up said no to the inspection and said the neons needed to go. i brought up the point that they werent an emergency colour or anything and still wouldnt approve it till they were off. (another 2 weeks till we could get back in to approve it) they were pink neons and were a "dazzling light."

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:03 am
by mistaboz
Red lenses have been used for years for night spotting of light shy animals. ie. people that shoot foxes.
That however is a minority of people.
Just giving a reason as to why the color red is used on some spotlights.

Cheers Paul

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:22 pm
by chunks
Trusa wrote:I run blue lenses on my light forces and I believe they increase visibility in rain and snow fall.

I believe they are legal because they only look blue when they are turned off. Turn them on and look at them and they do not look blue, they look white. Try it.
I agree 100%.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:46 pm
by cooki_monsta
same here if ne one has seen the front of my car, 2 ipf 900's with clears, and 2 lightforce 240s with blues

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:50 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Shadow wrote: Thats funny, I asked the DOT officer at the qld transport office at bundal if they are illegal. He does the majority of the inspections of vehicles that are defected by police or other DOT officers. He said they arent illegal, whats illegal, is having a green, blue, red, orange, purple, etc, coloured light.

It was him that told me that if they were pink he would have a hard time deeming them not to comply.

So who did you speak to on the matter?
http://www.openroad.com.au/makeover_monster.asp
Lights

Neon underbody accent lights that cast a surreal glow may be available for purchase, but it�s important to remember that strict laws govern the placement and colour of all car lights.

"Lights that are shaped or located in a way that causes confusion to other road users, or reduces the effectiveness of standard lights and reflectors fitted to the vehicle, are not permitted. This includes devices such as under body glow kits," says an RTA spokesperson.
If you want more details on car modifications contact the RTA on 1300 137 302.
So you say purple is illegal, but we have already established the "pink" lenses you are talking about are actually magenta...

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:12 pm
by Shadow
chunderlicious wrote:defect on missus car. took it to pinapple street, they straight up said no to the inspection and said the neons needed to go. i brought up the point that they werent an emergency colour or anything and still wouldnt approve it till they were off. (another 2 weeks till we could get back in to approve it) they were pink neons and were a "dazzling light."
fair enough, I will throw that back at Athol next time I see him and see what he has to say.
ISUZUROVER wrote:
Shadow wrote: Thats funny, I asked the DOT officer at the qld transport office at bundal if they are illegal. He does the majority of the inspections of vehicles that are defected by police or other DOT officers. He said they arent illegal, whats illegal, is having a green, blue, red, orange, purple, etc, coloured light.

It was him that told me that if they were pink he would have a hard time deeming them not to comply.

So who did you speak to on the matter?
http://www.openroad.com.au/makeover_monster.asp
Lights

Neon underbody accent lights that cast a surreal glow may be available for purchase, but it�s important to remember that strict laws govern the placement and colour of all car lights.

"Lights that are shaped or located in a way that causes confusion to other road users, or reduces the effectiveness of standard lights and reflectors fitted to the vehicle, are not permitted. This includes devices such as under body glow kits," says an RTA spokesperson.
If you want more details on car modifications contact the RTA on 1300 137 302.
So you say purple is illegal, but we have already established the "pink" lenses you are talking about are actually magenta...
Yep i mean "magenta" when i say purple, cause they look purple to me. As you mentioned earlier, it may very well be the case that a pink light is actually too close a shade to magenta and therefore restricted use aswell, dont know the wavelengths of magenta or pink, and cant find the part in the adr's that talk about wavelengths, although im sure its in there somewhere.

Your quote from the RTA spokesperson is interesting, and very ambiguous. Who decides whats confusing? I guess they are just providing an open ended law so each officer can apply his own opinion to the situation and deem all auxiliary lighting not permitted. I certainly wouldnt find under body neons confusing, but obviously some people do.

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:04 am
by bushy555
Can apparently now get metal halide bulbs that put out either true red, green or blue light.

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:57 pm
by UrbanRedneck
Shadow wrote:
chunderlicious wrote:sorry shadow i forgot you know more about this than anyone else like every other argument you get in on this forum. heres an idea go out with a set of neons on under or even in your car and drive past a few cop cars on friday night...... even better a DOT patrol on the side of the road. see what they think. ive been through this proccess they are illegal. :roll:
Thats funny, I asked the DOT officer at the qld transport office at bundal if they are illegal. He does the majority of the inspections of vehicles that are defected by police or other DOT officers. He said they arent illegal, whats illegal, is having a green, blue, red, orange, purple, etc, coloured light.

It was him that told me that if they were pink he would have a hard time deeming them not to comply.
As far as i understand here in vic you can have under body neon even in blue and red aslong as they do not shine onto the road.
For example on my mates kenworths under the cab but because they shine onto the tanks and chassis they are ok so as for cars this doesnt happen so they are flat out illegal.
And he is also a roadworthy inspector.