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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:15 pm
by JK
Wendle wrote:DirtPigs wrote:To me it screams Nissan 4WD cos of the disk rears, single pot caliper behind the axle. Factory lower arm mounts are in the right spot. The pumpkin & 3rd member looks Jap. The upper mounts have all been removed with the custom 4-link brakets welded on.
Semi floater with the hub identical to GQ hubs.
Can't see the old Panhard mount but that could have been cut off when the mods were done.
The shock mounts have been modified.
I'd say early GQ.
Well... what is it???
the brake plumbing is wrong fora GQ, they always join the flex to the hard line on a tag on the axle itself. the hub aint quite identical to GQ, slightly different, which is what made me think Navara 31 spliner.. But the carrier looks way too short to take a 9.25" ring gear.
You are spot on about the brake plumbing. I didn't notice that.
I have never really taken notice of Navara specs. The axle reeks of Nissan though.
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:24 pm
by pegasus
What about the handbrake lines going to the rotors?
I thought Patrols, Navara's and Pathies all had handbrake drums on the rear shaft?
Stew
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:36 pm
by Wendle
I don't think it is from a 4wd at all now. the only factory brackets left on it appear to be those weird mounts pointing forward, they hang way lower than any of the manafacturers would (should?) mount anything like that. they look to dinky to be link mounts also.. swaybar mounts?
I think I know what it is now, just gotta wait for the work ute to come back...
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:04 pm
by bj on roids
WELL??
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:52 pm
by 4sum4
Hey Yarno is that scott carpenters old rig
Whats the front diff is hilux 4.8 standard. That should give more of a clue
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:50 pm
by Yarno
ozy1 wrote:it would also help if you could add some measurements
The width is about 1530 hub to hub
Need any others?
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:04 pm
by BeZeRK
going off the position of the fill plug its not a toyota! toyotas are generally on the flat where you can see the yellow sticker!
the arm hanging down on the front remind me of somthing but i cant pick it, ill look under all the cars that come through work tommorow and see what i can find?
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:15 pm
by Yarno
pegasus wrote:It has handbrake cables going to the back, I thought all (I think) Nissan's used a drum on the rear drive shaft?
Could is be a Mazda? Bravo or even Ford Courior?
Stew
It looks as if it has drums inside the dics where the hand brake cable goes in...
I think it must have been a three link when original, I also rotated the centre and counted the turns for a rough ratio and it gives about 4 and 3/4 to 1 so maybe 4.88, it has the hilux diff in the front which should be 4.88 (82 Lux).... added some pics
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:19 pm
by Yarno
antt wrote:is that in the back of the lux that you bought with the v6 commodore motor in it yarno????? can't you just email the guy you bought it off to find out?
Yep
and no because it was from a wreacker so no previous owner
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:23 pm
by Yarno
Wendle wrote:the brake plumbing is wrong fora GQ, they always join the flex to the hard line on a tag on the axle itself. the hub aint quite identical to GQ, slightly different, which is what made me think Navara 31 spliner.. But the carrier looks way too short to take a 9.25" ring gear.
The brake plumbing has been changed
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:31 pm
by 60serius
Have you had the wheel off to see if it has been redrilled to 6 stud
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:02 pm
by Yarno
no, will check that tomorrow
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:13 pm
by 4sum4
Better find out what it is before blue slip that pinion seal needs to changed
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:24 pm
by RUFF
Got a close up of the sticker on the rear? And a good one of the rear of the housing centre section?
The factory looking lower link mounts are factory shock mounts i think? These look like mounts on a small nissan table top truck but i dont know why it would have disks.
I still say Pathfinder. There must be some casting marks on either the caliper or the diff centre other than the ones on the axle in one of those pics.
ITS DEFIANATLY NOT A FACTORY TOYOTA HILUX OR CRUISER DIFF!
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:23 am
by Wendle
RUFF wrote:I still say Pathfinder.
I believe this is correct.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:45 am
by bj on roids
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:40 pm
by BeZeRK
pajero!!! around 99 model.
definatly, from disk to disk!!
brake lines etc are all pajero, the mounts hanging foward and low are the shock mounts. even the sticker is tha same.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:09 pm
by Thor
BeZeRK wrote:pajero!!! around 99 model.
definatly, from disk to disk!!
brake lines etc are all pajero, the mounts hanging foward and low are the shock mounts. even the sticker is tha same.
i think you might be right there!! does the sticker say LSD by any chance?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:32 pm
by Juzza
Yep, Ruff is wrong for once, it's Pajero with the trailing arm mounts cut off, banana shaped brackets under axle housing are OME shock mounts, Disc brakes with hand brake in drum and diff filler on left hand side of pumpkin.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:00 pm
by Yarno
BeZeRK wrote:pajero!!! around 99 model.
definatly, from disk to disk!!
brake lines etc are all pajero, the mounts hanging foward and low are the shock mounts. even the sticker is tha same.
Yep had a look under a Pajero today and it is the same, none of the original mounts are cut off just been added to....
Thanks for the help.
So now that I/we know what it is, is it any good eg. strong enough for a beating from a 3.8l V6?
Cheers
Yarno
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:57 am
by 4sum4
Yarno wrote:BeZeRK wrote:pajero!!! around 99 model.
definatly, from disk to disk!!
brake lines etc are all pajero, the mounts hanging foward and low are the shock mounts. even the sticker is tha same.
Yep had a look under a Pajero today and it is the same, none of the original mounts are cut off just been added to....
Thanks for the help.
So now that I/we know what it is, is it any good eg. strong enough for a beating from a 3.8l V6?
Good to find out what ratio it is aswell.
Cheers
Yarno
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:31 am
by Guy
From the ARB airlocker chart regarding Pajero rears ...
Pajero, Raider, Front 1991 on IFS, 28 spline 28 All NA5
Montero Rear 1983-86 Small1 differential 30.5 (1.20") 28 All RD05
1987-95 Large2 differential, disc brake 30.5 (1.20") 28 All RD254
Large2 differential, drum brake 30.5 (1.20") 28 All RD464
The guy to ask I guess would be Bitsamissin ... He seems to be the resident Mitsu guru round here ... seem to recall he has busted a few rear axles and diffs as well ..
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:32 am
by bj on roids
w00t, so I was on the money.... nice..... SWEEET
anyways, prado calipers are on front side rather than the back side. pajeros are the opposite....
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:11 pm
by -Scott-
Frank knows this stuff better than I do, but my understanding is:
99 Pajero would have had 3.5l engine (or 2.8 td), which had a larger and stronger diff than the 3l. The original 3.5 DOHC put out more power than most GM 3.8 V6 (haven't seen figures for a while - what are they now?)
I don't believe there is a diff lock available for the 3.5, nor are ARB planning one (yet.)
There was some discussion about this in the Mitsubishi section recently (shouldn't be hard to find - there isn't a lot of traffic.)
Or you could wait for Frank...
Cheers,
Scott
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:04 pm
by CHOOFA
It is a 3litre pajero diff out of early model v6 wagon as i have own one in the past an have one sitting in the shed.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:38 pm
by MissDrew
Its a rear diff
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:10 pm
by Yarno
4sum4 wrote:Yarno wrote:BeZeRK wrote:pajero!!! around 99 model.
definatly, from disk to disk!!
brake lines etc are all pajero, the mounts hanging foward and low are the shock mounts. even the sticker is tha same.
Yep had a look under a Pajero today and it is the same, none of the original mounts are cut off just been added to....
Thanks for the help.
So now that I/we know what it is, is it any good eg. strong enough for a beating from a 3.8l V6?
Good to find out what ratio it is aswell.
Cheers
Yarno
Did some research today, it looks like its from the 2.8TD model with the bigger diff (10") and should have 4.90:1 gears in it, which also means there is no locker available for it (so the ARB book says)....
Yarno
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:01 am
by 4sum4
Yarno wrote:4sum4 wrote:Yarno wrote:BeZeRK wrote:pajero!!! around 99 model.
definatly, from disk to disk!!
brake lines etc are all pajero, the mounts hanging foward and low are the shock mounts. even the sticker is tha same.
Yep had a look under a Pajero today and it is the same, none of the original mounts are cut off just been added to....
Thanks for the help.
So now that I/we know what it is, is it any good eg. strong enough for a beating from a 3.8l V6?
Good to find out what ratio it is aswell.
Cheers
Yarno
Did some research today, it looks like its from the 2.8TD model with the bigger diff (10") and should have 4.90:1 gears in it, which also means there is no locker available for it (so the ARB book says)....
Yarno
Then what about the front, That got to be weird
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:55 am
by Yarno
well the front I would expect to be 4.88, so if the back is 4.90 it's only a slight difference, I'm not sure that this would cause that much trouble, would it?
Anyways I not certian that these are the ratios yet, will have to pull them down to be sure....
Yarno