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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:50 am
by Dee
want33s wrote:Type 'cowl induction' into google and you'll get 153,000 results.... not that many huh?
You must be some sort of freaky speed reader.
152,995 of those are about making, or buying cowl induction hoods. Not about how they work...

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:13 pm
by want33s
Dee wrote:
want33s wrote:Type 'cowl induction' into google and you'll get 153,000 results.... not that many huh?
You must be some sort of freaky speed reader.
152,995 of those are about making, or buying cowl induction hoods. Not about how they work...
ANOTHER freaky speed reader.. It would take me a week to go through all of them.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:17 pm
by GRPABT1
want33s wrote:Type 'cowl induction' into google and you'll get 153,000 results.... not that many huh?
You must be some sort of freaky speed reader.
Did you bother to read any of them? 99% of them are just selling scoops etc and have no real factual info.

Now stop being such a narky little fucking bitch and back the fuck off.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:18 pm
by Toecutta
Want 33's get over it. I did a search for "cowl induction how it works" and got different answers too.

What is cowl induction, and how does it work? TopThe 2nd gen Z's have cowls on their hoods. These are the 2 raised sections near the windshield. WHen cruising, negative pressure is created at the bottom of the windshield, so the cowls suck in some of this air. The air is then routed through a quite small opening in between the layers of the hood to the airbox. A slight performance gain results from this extra air.

http://www.v6z24.com/faq/?cat=performance


and

TRU-Cowl Induction Hood
How does it work? As you are driving down the highway, the air being displaced by the truck creates a high pressure area right in front of your windshield. This is where the hood gets its supply of cool air. The air is ducted into the top area of where the stock airbox is located. It works perfectly with the AFE stage I, AFE stage II, and a few other aftermarket air cleaners. Is it easy to install? It is a two-three man job to swap hoods on a Super Duty.

https://www.shop.pheltechpower.com/disp ... ctId=44&ca

Only thing they both say is the engine sucks cold air :roll:.

And who cares :twisted:

Having said that you got me sucked in (no pun intended) to have a look.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:50 pm
by want33s
Toecutta wrote: Having said that you got me sucked in (no pun intended) to have a look.
Awesome.. someone who can do a bit of research for them selves and not just assume 'something someone said' is correct.
Almost every car has a grill at the base of the windscreen doesn't it?
This is where the fresh air comes from when you open your vents..if there was a low pressure (lower than atmospheric.. IE:vacuum) here then wouldn't the air get sucked out of the car?
Obviously this isn't the case. :roll:
My vents blow air at me not suck.
Wether the scoop is connected to the engine or not is beside the point. I'm talking about the effect of air pressure.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:10 pm
by GRPABT1
Oh yes I'm sorry my powers of "research" are far less superior than toecuttas. He probably used altavista or something aswell as google. Damn I can be so so stupid. Never take any notice of anything I say again anyone, ever.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:11 pm
by just cruizin'
There is no such thing as negative pressure, just lower

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:15 pm
by want33s
GRPABT1 wrote:Oh yes I'm sorry my powers of "research" are far less superior than toecuttas. He probably used altavista or something aswell as google. Damn I can be so so stupid. Never take any notice of anything I say again anyone, ever.
OK

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:16 pm
by cjdeane10
Wow... i was expecting to get flamed for even thinking of fitting a shonky bonnet scoop as it would look corny - but to get a lecture on pressure differentials, and the theory behind cowl induction, and raised blood pressure was not expected! ! ! :shock:

THanks for all the input (tho we got a bit off track - damn hot air) and its interesting to see why different people would fit a bonnet scoop, and the benefits or praticality behind using one. :D

Personally i havent made my mind up - i see how it would not be of much benefit, and how it would have some legal issues assocaited with it all. Refer : http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/1913.asp

But i am still left with a Mustang Scoop in my garage... ebay may be an option!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:24 pm
by eXc
Drifters just put some washers on the bonnet mounts to push the entire rear of the bonnet up X far, that helps get air out too... You could always just do that so you don't get the ugly look of a scoop

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:18 am
by Toecutta
eXc wrote:Drifters just put some washers on the bonnet mounts to push the entire rear of the bonnet up X far, that helps get air out too... You could always just do that so you don't get the ugly look of a scoop
I used to sell kits, to a local "Tuning Shop", that lifted the bonnet (4X H/D Washers and some longer bolts). Goes between the hinge and the bonnet.

Doesnt work with the way the bonnet is mounted on a Sierra but it would work with a Vitara.

But both of them already have vents in the bonnet, off to the sides. pointless mod really.

maybe you could just take the bonnet off !! :armsup:

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:48 am
by grimbo
what like this
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40Ëš temps and lots of long slow climbs so just took the bonnet off made a world of difference

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:39 am
by GRPABT1
Have you got a pressurise dizzy or something in that photo? I know mine hates water (gotta sork that out) but that is going a bit far isn't it :?:

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:42 am
by grimbo
nope didn't have any major dramas after that, it crackled and backfired for a couple of minutes but didn't stall. Water got deeper as well, came in over the doors

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:25 pm
by mr green
can't help but think your fitting accessories for the sake of it. ebay your scoop (or make an ash tray or pot plant out of it) and take that bar off the front. i don't care how cheap it was it was too much. i am confident it would look better without the bar and the scoop.
jason

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:15 pm
by bazooked
i wish my vents would blow and suck. :armsup:

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:48 pm
by GRPABT1
grimbo wrote:nope didn't have any major dramas after that, it crackled and backfired for a couple of minutes but didn't stall. Water got deeper as well, came in over the doors
Mine does that too, sound like a rex for a while till it drys out, seems to drop a cylinder or something at low revs but keep it pinned and it's fine.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:01 pm
by Toecutta
grimbo wrote:nope didn't have any major dramas after that, it crackled and backfired for a couple of minutes but didn't stall. Water got deeper as well, came in over the doors
:lol: :lol: Should have removed the doors too

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:33 pm
by grimbo
Toecutta wrote:
grimbo wrote:nope didn't have any major dramas after that, it crackled and backfired for a couple of minutes but didn't stall. Water got deeper as well, came in over the doors
:lol: :lol: Should have removed the doors too
Have done that, nothing quite like sitting in water up to your arm pits :D