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i let my front ones down to 35 now, it is better but still not good (these are on 17" rims so not sure if that makes any difference) but the rears are still at 41 each.

should i let these down also?

i run bout 30-33 in fr and re. bit softer to offset heavy springs

and those pulling left you are certainly not the first thi has happened 2 after fitting new rubber... Return To Centre (RTC) steering damper will be your friend.

Just a guess but.....radial pull?

Do you know what direction the plies run in these tyres, could you get one of the fronts flipped to see if it helps?

I've heard tyre salesmen talking about such things (always regarding the competitors tyres), but never experienced it myself.

33" on a 2" lifted cruiser.

40PSI on the way out of town (5 hours, Princess highway)

33PSI on way home (same as above)

No drama, perhaps a little more doughy and sluggish at lower pressure but none of the issues you are facing. Cornering fine, perhaps a little more flighty at high pressure but nothing concerning. Great grip, quiet, great wear.

Bad batch, says satisfied owner...! MickeyT should jump on bad PR like this.

i have the MTX in 33x12.5 on my mav and had the same problem i run about 35 psi and its not to bad now,

how do u find them now?

I reckon some tyres/batches just do this. My MTR's do this when new, but it eases up when you've got about 10k on them. Whether it's a SWB thing or not for my instance, i'm the same where you don't want to take your hands off the steering wheel. If you were running well worn tyres beforehand then you'd be used to having next to no feedback onroad similar to a hwy terrain. Offroad tyres always give plenty of feedback through the steering onroad. It might also be the type of roads you do as i only get feedback on certain types of bitumen.

My wife's car has factory 215/45R18 Yokohamas. I test drove the base model before we bought one which only has 16" rims and it was normal passenger car type feedback. But with the sports suspension and the 18" low profiles that come on her car you get a lot of steering feedback but only on selectected roads. Quite often, the camber in the road is enough to make you have to correct.

As they have worn in, they have improved significantly. Still a little vague, but not all over the place. If you wanted to replicate it, run your tyres at 50PSI and go for a drive, that's what it used to be like.

I run them at 33-35psi now, the 26 was causing abnormal wear on the blocks.

They lost the forst 20% of tread depth in 10,000km, so have to see how they go for life. I did get measurements, but dont have them here. I bailed up Ryano about it, but he reckons they always wear faster at first.

They are the same tread depth now as a new cooper ST for reference. 285/75/16

Sidewall and tread block toughness has been excellent.

Paul

Ive heard from guys in the rubber trade that tires wear quickly at first due to Rubber compresion. Sounds about right to me i spose as i have an uncle in sydney that owns a rubber company ( not wet checks) He makes stuff from seals for plumbing to fins for hot buttered and he has said this is correct for rubber with loads on it that is driven by a force.
Any way back to the tires. My wifes car still drives great with the MTZs but is getting a little skidy in the rain but they are wearing great. But i do agree with the good and bad batches as there is a few people i know who have had nothing but trouble with there MTZs.

me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:As they have worn in, they have improved significantly. Still a little vague, but not all over the place. If you wanted to replicate it, run your tyres at 50PSI and go for a drive, that's what it used to be like.

I run them at 33-35psi now, the 26 was causing abnormal wear on the blocks.

They lost the forst 20% of tread depth in 10,000km, so have to see how they go for life. I did get measurements, but dont have them here. I bailed up Ryano about it, but he reckons they always wear faster at first.

They are the same tread depth now as a new cooper ST for reference. 285/75/16

Sidewall and tread block toughness has been excellent.

Paul

So are you still hoping for the same ks you got out of your Cooper AT's?

me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:Prevous tyres were Cooper AT's 265/75/16 pretty worn. Done about 300,000km I reckon (damn things wouldn't wear out, they came with the car and I am a cheapskate)

RUFF wrote:

me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:As they have worn in, they have improved significantly. Still a little vague, but not all over the place. If you wanted to replicate it, run your tyres at 50PSI and go for a drive, that's what it used to be like.

I run them at 33-35psi now, the 26 was causing abnormal wear on the blocks.

They lost the forst 20% of tread depth in 10,000km, so have to see how they go for life. I did get measurements, but dont have them here. I bailed up Ryano about it, but he reckons they always wear faster at first.

They are the same tread depth now as a new cooper ST for reference. 285/75/16

Sidewall and tread block toughness has been excellent.

Paul

So are you still hoping for the same ks you got out of your Cooper AT's?

me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:Prevous tyres were Cooper AT's 265/75/16 pretty worn. Done about 300,000km I reckon (damn things wouldn't wear out, they came with the car and I am a cheapskate)

me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:They lost the forst 20% of tread depth in 10,000km, so have to see how they go for life. I did get measurements, but dont have them here. I bailed up Ryano about it, but he reckons they always wear faster at first.

I always found the last part of tires to wear faster.

We run a few sets of these tyres and have found that they handle better over time when the sharp edges wear off the outside lugs.We get great ks for a mudder out of them and they hook up ok.I`d check what serriajim said and for a 285 an 8inch rim woud be the go.We run em 32psi loaded or empty never damaged one.

am running them in the 32 inch ish size on the new patrol on 17 inch rims running them a bit higher at 35 and are fine, nearly got 10 on them already and doin fine. At 35 lb they are shitehouse on the sand drop to 20 and float like implants in a spa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just the patrols natural pull to the left above and beyond the angles on the road means as with the last one a a RTC steering dampner will be needed...

i got ryano putting the same on a mates 06 prado today aswell as a snorkel and lightforce a good egg that fella.

tyre pressure and car weights seemingly the common theme.......

i could have got 90- ooo out of my last set but at 300 000kms i better look at alternatives just kidding mate i know you were only trying to make a point :

InSanE wrote:i have done a few thousand klm on my lifted gq with 35x12.5x15 mtz and had no problems at all, they are the best mud tyre i have ever owned.

x2

yeah gonna have the echo, running fine with 305MTZs on the GU, but agree with everyone that the return-to-centre and regular allignments & balance are very important.

Gotta say I love these MTZs on the highway, but can't let the wheel go and drive its self like HTRs, but who whats that??

Where's the fun to keep you awake and cause my right arm to need physio due to always holding the steering wheel right!!

I have 315/75R16 on my 100 series and they are great on road and off. could not ask for a better tyre. As other people have said check things like your bushes in you front radius arms if the rubber starts to pull away from the crush tube in the center of the bush this will make your front end do funny things and you may only be noticing it now due to the bigger tyres.

GU_247 wrote:

InSanE wrote:i have done a few thousand klm on my lifted gq with 35x12.5x15 mtz and had no problems at all, they are the best mud tyre i have ever owned.

x3

SIM79 wrote:

GU_247 wrote:

InSanE wrote:i have done a few thousand klm on my lifted gq with 35x12.5x15 mtz and had no problems at all, they are the best mud tyre i have ever owned.

x3

I'm not really sure a 35" x 12.5" Mud on a lifted GU would be a good handling comparison to a factory GU on H/T's or mild AT's w/ passenger construction.

This was about highway behaviour....

Paul

ive run M/T claws as comp tyres for as long as I can rember, & I thaught they were great. I supose I just got use to how they reacted, & counteracted accordingly without even noticing, IE side slopes,wet rock,no wet anything with an angle ect but M/T have asked me to run their MTZ's as my comp tyre. SO FAR IM EXTREMLY IMPRESSED!!!!! they are a very direct tyre & extremly responsive even at high speed, mud, sand,wet rock & clay ..
I WILL KEEP YOU ALL INFORMED ON THEIR PERFORMENCE,good points, & their weeknesses, in comparison to others, as I test them or should I say flog the living sh#t out of them
cheers piglet