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Has anyone got any ON-Road experience with these tyres yet? ie: Wear, handling, wet road, could they be used on a daily driver Wrangler, 40km a day round trip to work. I know they havent been in OZ for long, but you never know.
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DJ

This is what they looked like on spaz's lux on Saturday, from riding in it and driving it part of the way home i'd say they behave very well onroad, comparable to any other 35" mud terrain i've experianced. When inflated they sat with quite a curve to them, turn this symbol 90 degrees to the right and you'll see what i mean ( They didn't sit flat on the road, could be a problem in the wet but it made the non power steering in the lux very easy to turn, much easier then the 32" BFG muds spaz usually runs. The tread feels very soft so they may not last all that long doing DD duties, but i think the payoff offroad would be well worth it.

Cheers, Jeremy

they certainly are a nice looking tyre, and seemed to perform very well.

How did they bag Jeremy, has Spaz fixed his Lux

yeah what is the go with that curve thing in the centreline of the tyres. drafty found the same thing too. does this happen with all of them? kinda weird.

what did spaz have them aired down to?

didnt seem to bag to much although that could be becase they only had a few k's

Old Yella wrote:they certainly are a nice looking tyre, and seemed to perform very well.

How did they bag Jeremy, has Spaz fixed his Lux

They started to bag ok towards the end of the night, he had them down towards ten psi, but it was their virgin run... so when i get them on the rangie i'll get some bagging pics up and at what pressures they were at.
Maybe once they get a few k's on them they'll sit flat on the road when aired up.
i don't think he's done anything about it yet, except ask silly questions but whenever he's ready i'm ready.

N*A*M wrote:yeah what is the go with that curve thing in the centreline of the tyres. drafty found the same thing too. does this happen with all of them? kinda weird.

Same thing happens with my swampers when aired up. I personally don't think it's an issue.

The creepy's are designed like that (rounded tread) with a reasonably large centre 'cut' or groove down the middle of the tyre which apparently helps with moulding to rocks etc. The gap in the middle of the tire allows it to flexx heaps better in the actuall tread. Makes a lot of sense when you think about it. The side walls are apparently huge and stiff and tuff!!!! so most of the flex in this tire is in the tread. I think this is a great thing cause a really baggy sidewall is a pita and not really a good thing in my oppinion.
Maybe that is why they have made them sooo wide in the first place?

I would not run a tyre like this in a 35 or larger size at anything over 25psi on the road. With the weight of the truck on them I would guess that the contact patch on the road would be flat and just flexes accordingly.

I think it is good to see new ideas and designs in this area. Hope to get a set one day soon!

Havent ran my 37's on the road, but they al;so curve on top. The 37's dont have the centre groove in them either. I plan on running mine at about 8 psi, and at that, they loose the curve. At 15 PSI they still have the curved top on the tread. Dont think it is a real issue. Mine will probably never run on the road.

Will be about a month before I can put the to a real test.

Cheers

Pete

well i just got mine today and unmounted, they are soft as. my measely body mass is enough to deform the tread area. i couldn't do this with my simexes. they are about 35kg each, and are a little bit smaller than the indicated size. nonetheless, they are very horn.

pics NAM...we want pics

i've been giving the 35" a hard time and after a few outings they do soften up in the side wall and only have a very slight curve in the tread area . i run them at 22psi on road and they seem to handle fine for a bias ply tyre.
as fat ass said they are very flexable in the tread area but will never bag like other tyres . once you have run them in you'll see what i mean.
i think its quite clever what they have done with these tyres cause it reduces the chance of slashing or staking a side wall . the 37" is designed a bit different in the tread area because they are an 8 ply where the 35" is a six ply . i hope this helps .
regards brett

talking to the importers today and they are going to be bringing in some new sizes in the creepy crawler . starting with a 37/12.5/15 and various width in 38". i'll post the exact sizes as soon as i can .

rolly whats the sizes of the 37s u have in stock??? and how much$$$?

Rolly wrote:talking to the importers today and they are going to be bringing in some new sizes in the creepy crawler . starting with a 37/12.5/15 and various width in 38". i'll post the exact sizes as soon as i can .

While we're btt on this topic, what do you do for balancing brett ? Got mine mounted on the rover rims on saturday, they were all waaaay out [half because the rover rims are custom heavy arse pos's]. Non of them balanced up perfect, one was asking for 1000grams of weight !! so they didn't even bother with that one, but as experienced on spaz's lux today on the M2 i couldn't do over 80 cause of the vibes . The tyre dude said to give him some notice next time and he'll order in some truck weights that are 400g each or something like that.
Other than that i'm happy to report they behave great on the road, haven't tried them in the wet yet though, or aired them down. Will have pics of that after this weekend !!

I went through similar issues when we were mounting my 38.5 boggers. We actually found that we could minimise the amount of lead required by trying different tyres on different rims and tried each of the sidewalls on the inside of the rim. With directional tyres it took a bit of fiddling to get at least 2 facing each way but we did get the required lead down to something sensible.

i recall reading something awhile ago about puttin some sort of weight inside the rim, if i remember rightly its some sort ot poder in a bad or something, i may be wrong thou

it is called equal i believe....http://www.equalauto.com/

Jeremy,

I got weighted patches in my swampers. But then I spun the tyre on the rim and hey presto, unbalanced tyres

They are good though and would recommend them if you need a lot of weight to true up the treads

my pedes on beadlocks needed 900 grams so we put 750ml of BALTECH in the tyres.
its a gel like substance [looks like handcleaner] and tyres stayed in balance even after ripping chunks off some of the blocks.
were a PITA for the first couple of hundred yards when cold though.
got it from arctic cool treads.

The hot mod for ballancing tyres is golf balls - apparently??

Sam

Strange Rover wrote:The hot mod for ballancing tyres is golf balls - apparently??

Sam

i think the sound of em on a daily driver would drive you nuts

its got to have something to do with the rims cause i have 15/10 chromies on mine and the two fronts take 10 grams on one and five on the other doing a static balance . the two rears take 200 grams each . if your not sure get them to spin the rim up on the balancer first to see how far out they are . you can also try to spin the tyre on the rim 180 to see wether that makes a difference . if they cant be balanced up you will have to get some internal balance done like big red .
XFACTOR i have in stock 37/14.5/15 and 37/12.5/16 both at $415.00 ea
regards brett

antt wrote:

Strange Rover wrote:The hot mod for ballancing tyres is golf balls - apparently??

Sam

i think the sound of em on a daily driver would drive you nuts

i may be wrong but i dout you'd hear anything...as they would be spinning around at near equal speed

308LUX wrote:

antt wrote:

Strange Rover wrote:The hot mod for ballancing tyres is golf balls - apparently??

Sam

i think the sound of em on a daily driver would drive you nuts

i may be wrong but i dout you'd hear anything...as they would be spinning around at near equal speed

What about when you're stopping & starting?

Would be funny as fark in city traffic me thinks

imagine hitting the brakes real hard and stopping ...then all you can hear is the whirring of the golfballs as they keep spinning round

Im under the belief that the Greg Norman Statesman was fiited with that balencing system as standard

gtwebbie wrote:Im under the belief that the Greg Norman Statesman was fiited with that balencing system as standard

Boom tish

big red wrote:imagine hitting the brakes real hard and stopping ...then all you can hear is the whirring of the golfballs as they keep spinning round

you could use those super balls from Australian geographic that hen they bounce make all sorts of strange noises now that would be fun at the lights

I dropped 6 golf balls in each of my 38.5x14.5xR16.5 TSL SX's... seems to work pretty well.

I run internal beadlocks though, so I don't hear them hitting the rims... in fact I don't hear them at all.

I am sure that at a certain speed you would hear them dropping and hitting the rim if you didn't have internals, but if you were moving real slow or real fast you wouldn't notice it.