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TD has an iron head TB is alloy. Dont have any figures on the TD but in short the answer is yesRogue Patrol wrote:Would it be safe to assume a TD42 is heavier than a TB?
That would be close, as a 350 is 580 lb with same.Rogue Patrol wrote:Apparently a 454 is 650lbs with iron intake and heads....
A shade under 300kg's.
Anyone know what a TD or TB42 weighs?
Ok am i missing something here. Is he building a drag car or a winch truck? And did you have all these motors in winch trucks did you? Have you ever done a winch comp?ats4x4dotcom wrote:I dont think anyone here who is suggesting options has ever had, or driven a big block. Ive had turbo intercooled 6's, hot 350's, and 383's and 400's, and 351's, and hot tb42', as well as 2 HSV's and now a VE SSV 6.0, and I can tell you.......
Once youve had BIG BLOCK there is no turning back........
As for weight, I got my big block down to way under a 350 weight will alloy components, and hand made extractors, all cheap, because people dont know much about big blocksand I also went to the trouble of moving the engine and gearbox etc back 3" to help with weight distrubution, which wasnt very difficult.
many years ago, someone I know had a 454 in a camaro, it had some suspension chnages, brake ducting, manual, and made over 600 rw hp, and it used to valve bounce at 9200 rpm, and late 80's 10 sec 1/4 miles on street tyres, through the mufflers was a quick car.
jaybags wrote:Ok am i missing something here. Is he building a drag car or a winch truck? And did you have all these motors in winch trucks did you? Have you ever done a winch comp?ats4x4dotcom wrote:I dont think anyone here who is suggesting options has ever had, or driven a big block. Ive had turbo intercooled 6's, hot 350's, and 383's and 400's, and 351's, and hot tb42', as well as 2 HSV's and now a VE SSV 6.0, and I can tell you.......
Once youve had BIG BLOCK there is no turning back........
As for weight, I got my big block down to way under a 350 weight will alloy components, and hand made extractors, all cheap, because people dont know much about big blocks
many years ago, someone I know had a 454 in a camaro, it had some suspension chnages, brake ducting, manual, and made over 600 rw hp, and it used to valve bounce at 9200 rpm, and late 80's 10 sec 1/4 miles on street tyres, through the mufflers was a quick car.
Jaybagjaybags wrote:[
Ok am i missing something here. Is he building a drag car or a winch truck? And did you have all these motors in winch trucks did you? Have you ever done a winch comp?
Can we wait till after cliff hanger Carby will suck on big angles! need to spend the coin on either EFI or Gas, but gas will be hard at white cliffs!go away you annoying young man, you obviously have no idea what your talking about.jaybags wrote:Ok am i missing something here. Is he building a drag car or a winch truck? And did you have all these motors in winch trucks did you? Have you ever done a winch comp?ats4x4dotcom wrote:I dont think anyone here who is suggesting options has ever had, or driven a big block. Ive had turbo intercooled 6's, hot 350's, and 383's and 400's, and 351's, and hot tb42', as well as 2 HSV's and now a VE SSV 6.0, and I can tell you.......
Once youve had BIG BLOCK there is no turning back........
As for weight, I got my big block down to way under a 350 weight will alloy components, and hand made extractors, all cheap, because people dont know much about big blocks
many years ago, someone I know had a 454 in a camaro, it had some suspension chnages, brake ducting, manual, and made over 600 rw hp, and it used to valve bounce at 9200 rpm, and late 80's 10 sec 1/4 miles on street tyres, through the mufflers was a quick car.
Darren has an idol.jaybags wrote:Young man yes and learning more yes. You seem to have a bit of a ego problem and a very rude manner to go with it "old man". I do appologise for questioning your envolvement in the off road scene and in no way did i want to raise your blood pressure. And you are correct i am not a expert, but you do learn new things every day. Sites like this are lucky to have people like you on here as the world of off road would not survive without you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I am going to drop in and have a chat for sure, interested to learn more about the above set up. Thanks for the help!ats4x4dotcom wrote:As for a "revvy" small block, still no match for a big block in the all round stakes, and a 850 Q jet carby off a buick 455 is a better unit to set up for off road use, with small primaries for good signal down low in the RPM, and you can fit parts which prevent fuel splashing over in rough stuff as well. [been there done that]
Holley isnt worth the effort, wiull never run right off road.
No worries, see your url's in the sig, was it you who had to help David winch his scissor lift back onto the footpath, while the signage went on ?beretta wrote:I am going to drop in and have a chat for sure, interested to learn more about the above set up. Thanks for the help!ats4x4dotcom wrote:As for a "revvy" small block, still no match for a big block in the all round stakes, and a 850 Q jet carby off a buick 455 is a better unit to set up for off road use, with small primaries for good signal down low in the RPM, and you can fit parts which prevent fuel splashing over in rough stuff as well. [been there done that]
Holley isnt worth the effort, wiull never run right off road.
I feel air movement up my rectum....LOCKEE wrote:Darren has an idol.jaybags wrote:Young man yes and learning more yes. You seem to have a bit of a ego problem and a very rude manner to go with it "old man". I do appologise for questioning your envolvement in the off road scene and in no way did i want to raise your blood pressure. And you are correct i am not a expert, but you do learn new things every day. Sites like this are lucky to have people like you on here as the world of off road would not survive without you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
It was I, heavy recovery specialist, pretty funny when he bogged it in front of the shop, he had no hope from the start, but he was keen to have a go! Another sign writer did exactly the same thing last week even after I told him he wouldn't make it more than a foot onto the garden!ats4x4dotcom wrote:No worries, see your url's in the sig, was it you who had to help David winch his scissor lift back onto the footpath, while the signage went on ?beretta wrote:I am going to drop in and have a chat for sure, interested to learn more about the above set up. Thanks for the help!ats4x4dotcom wrote:As for a "revvy" small block, still no match for a big block in the all round stakes, and a 850 Q jet carby off a buick 455 is a better unit to set up for off road use, with small primaries for good signal down low in the RPM, and you can fit parts which prevent fuel splashing over in rough stuff as well. [been there done that]
Holley isnt worth the effort, wiull never run right off road.
just run straight gas man.beretta wrote:I am going to drop in and have a chat for sure, interested to learn more about the above set up. Thanks for the help!ats4x4dotcom wrote:As for a "revvy" small block, still no match for a big block in the all round stakes, and a 850 Q jet carby off a buick 455 is a better unit to set up for off road use, with small primaries for good signal down low in the RPM, and you can fit parts which prevent fuel splashing over in rough stuff as well. [been there done that]
Holley isnt worth the effort, wiull never run right off road.
One small problem, its hard to get gas on a station in the middle of the outback, has to be petrol. Thanks for the suggestion tho jessie.jessie928 wrote:just run straight gas man.beretta wrote:I am going to drop in and have a chat for sure, interested to learn more about the above set up. Thanks for the help!ats4x4dotcom wrote:As for a "revvy" small block, still no match for a big block in the all round stakes, and a 850 Q jet carby off a buick 455 is a better unit to set up for off road use, with small primaries for good signal down low in the RPM, and you can fit parts which prevent fuel splashing over in rough stuff as well. [been there done that]
Holley isnt worth the effort, wiull never run right off road.
dont waste your money on fuel injection!!!!
run msd 6al for ignition ( or DIS for more $$) and twin impco 425's ontop of a spreadbore throttleplate. ( single plane alloy manifold)
you can play with a tunnelram and twin squarebore baseplates but you wont have as much low down torque as a single throttleplate dual mixer setup.
cheers,m
Jes
Its a possibility, I want more ponies!baxy wrote:Hey paul,
Does this mean you wont be needing a certain TD42 anymore??
Hmmm.
your gona take a 454bb equipped truck running on petrol into the outback? get ready for a MEAN MEAN fuel billberetta wrote:One small problem, its hard to get gas on a station in the middle of the outback, has to be petrol. Thanks for the suggestion tho jessie.jessie928 wrote:just run straight gas man.beretta wrote:I am going to drop in and have a chat for sure, interested to learn more about the above set up. Thanks for the help!ats4x4dotcom wrote:As for a "revvy" small block, still no match for a big block in the all round stakes, and a 850 Q jet carby off a buick 455 is a better unit to set up for off road use, with small primaries for good signal down low in the RPM, and you can fit parts which prevent fuel splashing over in rough stuff as well. [been there done that]
Holley isnt worth the effort, wiull never run right off road.
dont waste your money on fuel injection!!!!
run msd 6al for ignition ( or DIS for more $$) and twin impco 425's ontop of a spreadbore throttleplate. ( single plane alloy manifold)
you can play with a tunnelram and twin squarebore baseplates but you wont have as much low down torque as a single throttleplate dual mixer setup.
cheers,m
Jes
. No electronics, basic setup, ultra reliable. um yes true, but its only to race not on tour, but yes big fuel bill expected.http://www.azspeed.com/ramjet502fui.htmlberetta wrote:Its a possibility, I want more ponies!baxy wrote:Hey paul,
Does this mean you wont be needing a certain TD42 anymore??
Hmmm.