E85 Petrol is coming

[Sigjero]

considering the damage i've seen E10 do to some feul systems, this stuff is realy going to hurt some people.

What damage have you seen E10 do? Anything specific on type of damage and vehicle make & engine?

most of it has been problems with the flexible hoses used in the system.
some of it goes rock hard and cracks, with other brands tend to turn to jelly, much like what auto fluid does to rubber hoses. the last one we had was a few weeks ago, A 2000 modle mitsu express van, the very last of the carburated ones, the feul hose from the tank to the solid line on the chassis had gone like jelly, leaking feul, one the line from the filter to the carb had started to aswell. found the float bowl full of rubber.



have seen a few cars with alloy lines filling carbs and injectors rails with white crap too. But those cars had been using it since it first hit the shelves.

the biggest problem is people not realising what the stuff can do and blindly using it

Thanks man, now I know what to look for I'll keep an eye on hoses and see how it goes, as for the float bowl filling with crap an inline fuel filter should catch this shouldn't it?

grab a ryco Z200 or equivelent filter andput it as close to the carb as you can, 20cm at most. use new fuel hose between the filter and the carb.
If you are going to run E10 or E85 replace all the rubber hose in the system with speedflow 400 series hose or equivelent from earls, russel ect. it'll stand up to the ethenol better.
and just remember the stoichemetric ratio for ethenol is not the same as for petrol. With E85 carby engines WILL need rejetting to run it. then you'll be stuck with it for good, so make sure it's really what you want

Thanks again, I'll give it a go

[j-top paj]

That is a trick we have been using for years, if you cop a bit of fuel with water in it

its always good to have a bottle of metho handy

[Micky-Lux]

all our petrol vehicles at work (all fleet australia vehicles), ranging from commodores/falcons to v8 cruisers are encouraged to fill up using e10.

The only V8 Cruisers we get through Fleet Aust are Diesels. E10 would make them run like s#!t.

The Commodore ute we have though runs like s#!t at the best of times anyway, so probably no noticable difference.

[Sigjero]

That is a trick we have been using for years, if you cop a bit of fuel with water in it

its always good to have a bottle of metho handy

goes well with orange juice lol

[MightyMouse]

Does wonders ( NOT ) for the commutators of EFI fuel pumps as well.

An SAE article was going around work awhile back with pics of engine internals ( unmodified ) that had been run on E85 for a substantial period. I'm now convinced - not in my cars. Of course engines can be made ethanol compatible when manufactured but that doesn't help me now.

But were fighting a loosing battle - the governments quite happy to damage your engine over the long term, to be seen to be clean and green now.

[LuxyBoy]

Take some and put it in a bucket/bowl and let it evaporate; see that crap that is left over..........THAT IS CLOGGING YOUR ENGINE SLOWLY

[v6hilux]

So does this mean E85 will be $2.95 P/L and ULP will be $3.00 P/L?

[Sigjero]

So does this mean E85 will be $2.95 P/L and ULP will be $3.00 P/L?

E85 is about 25% cheaper, but if they put exise on ethanol then your price comparison is spot on