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1hdt got bad noises - rebuild stage

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Post by pootrollin »

Ya did not forget the oil pump pick up seal between the main block and bearing cap block. I have know people that have left it out as sometimes it is not in the kit.
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Post by Red04VXE »

pootrollin wrote:Ya did not forget the oil pump pick up seal between the main block and bearing cap block. I have know people that have left it out as sometimes it is not in the kit.
I was about to say that.
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pootrollin wrote:Ya did not forget the oil pump pick up seal between the main block and bearing cap block. I have know people that have left it out as sometimes it is not in the kit.
guess what, our kit actually had 2 of them :D

now that you are good at seals, is there any other that you know of that could be easily forgotten?

in the kit there is also 1 big rubber oring (square wall), about 40mm diameter, 5mm thick and a wall of about 5mm, my brother stripped down the engine and doesnt actually remember seeing that one come out.
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Post by pootrollin »

Man your lucky. I bought 2 kits and neither of them had that seal, had to go to Toyota and they could not even find it the first time. The other seal sounds like it comes from around the timing cover gear housing. If you are unsure, stick up a pic. If its a square seal it could be the one that goes on the housing that goes on the camshaft. Did you get your injector pump tricked up a bit while it was off. Really makes them engines go.
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pootrollin wrote:The other seal sounds like it comes from around the timing cover gear housing. If you are unsure, stick up a pic. If its a square seal it could be the one that goes on the housing that goes on the camshaft.
its not an oil seal, its just a round rubber thingo, square walled, around 40mm diameter. i will post up a pic tomorrow.
pootrollin wrote:Did you get your injector pump tricked up a bit while it was off. Really makes them engines go.
and this mod would be??? it involves playing with the aneroid or fuel screw i guess?
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so heres the oring you are always missing :D

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Post by Sic Lux »

udm wrote:1 big rubber oring (square wall), about 40mm diameter, 5mm thick and a wall of about 5mm, my brother stripped down the engine and doesnt actually remember seeing that one come out.
Could be for the timing belt cover goes on the plastic cover post up a pic and we'll know for sure
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Sic Lux wrote:
udm wrote:1 big rubber oring (square wall), about 40mm diameter, 5mm thick and a wall of about 5mm, my brother stripped down the engine and doesnt actually remember seeing that one come out.
Could be for the timing belt cover goes on the plastic cover post up a pic and we'll know for sure
we havent looked at the timing section yet, but will let you all know what we see.
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Post by pootrollin »

Dats da one.
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Post by chunks »

Nice work there mate, good to see you're having a go yourself!

Bit off topic, but what do people reckon the life expectantcy of a properly maintained 1HD-FTE is?
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chunks wrote:Nice work there mate, good to see you're having a go yourself!

Bit off topic, but what do people reckon the life expectantcy of a properly maintained 1HD-FTE is?
I do not know of any with big miles on them yet, but the ones i do know are still going strong with no probs.
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now, this is the one i am thinking maybe doesnt belong to a 1hdt.

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Post by +dj_hansen+ »

Are there any known problems with 1HDFT's? I just purchased an 80 with 312000 on the clock... immac condition and really well looked after mechanically, is it worth getting them changed over, what sort of cost?
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+dj_hansen+ wrote:Are there any known problems with 1HDFT's? I just purchased an 80 with 312000 on the clock... immac condition and really well looked after mechanically, is it worth getting them changed over, what sort of cost?
just drive it and leave it alone :D
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we found where it goes, its the oil cap seal :oops:
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Post by dow50r »

When you put the new timing belt on, you will think you put the gears on wrong, but actually you need to install it at bottom dead centre...something completely foreign to a petrol motor....
The gotchya with these motors is the harmonic balancer nut torque, it needs to be right, you need to make a balancer holder and a wrench that can do 380nm....if you cant get one, i can....i owe you a favour or two
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Post by pootrollin »

Hey andrew, do you want Scott and I to come down and swing on the bar to torque it up. Can be done over a carton of Fusion. (Again).
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Andrew,

We still havent reached the gears and belt part yet (we're still waiting on the head)... but the 1st thing i did sometime ago was get myself a toyota 1hz/1hdt engine service book (about 400 pages all up) :D :D ... so if something doesnt make sense, a quick look through the book should set us straight. :) if you need it, let me know, its a 33mb pdf file.

btw, the harmonic balancer's bolt needs to be torqued to 362ft-lbs/490nm :shock: how in hell do you hold the harmonic balancer with those sort of torques? :roll:
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Post by chunks »

Make a lock to jam in the teeth of the ring gear (on the flywheel), preferrably something that you can bolt onto the back of the motor.
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Post by Sic Lux »

chunks wrote:Make a lock to jam in the teeth of the ring gear (on the flywheel), preferrably something that you can bolt onto the back of the motor.
Yeah i just used a pine wedge in the starter hole wedged against the bellhousing worked a treat tourqued mine up one person job helps when you have a F :bad-words: off torque wrench, The one i mangage to get my hands on will pull upto 700Nm :shock:
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pootrollin wrote:Hey andrew, do you want Scott and I to come down and swing on the bar to torque it up. Can be done over a carton of Fusion. (Again).

MMMM fusion....i just repaired a mower and wipper snipper for a case of that lovely stuff......
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dow50r wrote:
pootrollin wrote:Hey andrew, do you want Scott and I to come down and swing on the bar to torque it up. Can be done over a carton of Fusion. (Again).

MMMM fusion....i just repaired a mower and wipper snipper for a case of that lovely stuff......
Sorry mate but off subject. Dropping off your black donuts Andrew on the 3rd June. Maybe knock over a snappy dozen fusions on the way through. Your converted.
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Post by udm »

well, this is where we are at.

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only things left are manifolds, turbo, brass fittings for new oil and water gauges, also have to get the egt pyro on the manifold, and then its finished :D
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full set of pics (only first 4 pages)

http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/ ... 80tohzj80/
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yeeeha, its lives again :D :D
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Post by Sic Lux »

One trick a old mechanic told me to do was lift engine take engine mounts out then lower the engine makes it a bit eaiser to get the top bolts out of the bell housing just sit it gently on the sump on the panhard brace
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Post by dow50r »

UDM
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well done, 5 weeks quicker than my job....
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dow50r wrote:UDM
U D Man :)
well done, 5 weeks quicker than my job....
all up 3 weeks, but only 4 days of our labour :D the machine shop is who makes things seem slow, but they did an awesome job with all the parts.
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Post by udm »

and here it is
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check out our home made SST :D we made it to hold the harmonic balancer.
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Post by chunks »

You have done a top job mate, well done!! :)
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