Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Sorry boys, already got a set of IFS hubs on the front :( and its a daily driver atleast till uni holidays, so will have little or no work done till then.

Oh yer.. no money either

308LUX wrote:SO WHOS IN ON THE GROUP BUY ??...so fare:

ausyota
big38l
308LUX
junglist ??
dj hansen ??
spazbot ??

i was refering to the rear end, wish i had the cash atm to do the front ifs hubs at the same time

junglist wrote:Still waiting on trying to work out the total cost of the swap.
What do all the bits needed total at $$
Doing the front and the back.
Thanks.

To do the front you need the IFS hubs and the widening kit.

To do the rear you need to buy a complete IFS rear diff out of a hilux. These diff's are the same as you have now expect 1.5" wider each side, for a total of 3" wider. I think from memory you also need the ubolts and plates from the IFS diff.

Chris.

Either way.. no sorry =}

cbr wrote:

junglist wrote:Still waiting on trying to work out the total cost of the swap.
What do all the bits needed total at $$
Doing the front and the back.
Thanks.

To do the front you need the IFS hubs and the widening kit.

To do the rear you need to buy a complete IFS rear diff out of a hilux. These diff's are the same as you have now expect 1.5" wider each side, for a total of 3" wider. I think from memory you also need the ubolts and plates from the IFS diff.

Chris.

Ok, thats on a Lux. What about a Cruiser?? Is there any way to widen the rear track?

Ok I'm in! No more rollux for me.

im interested.... so this will fit onto cruiser diffs ...front and rear?

JAKE wrote:im interested.... so this will fit onto cruiser diffs ...front and rear?

Only if you have rear steer

Stepho wrote:

cbr wrote:

junglist wrote:Still waiting on trying to work out the total cost of the swap.
What do all the bits needed total at $$
Doing the front and the back.
Thanks.

To do the front you need the IFS hubs and the widening kit.

To do the rear you need to buy a complete IFS rear diff out of a hilux. These diff's are the same as you have now expect 1.5" wider each side, for a total of 3" wider. I think from memory you also need the ubolts and plates from the IFS diff.

Chris.

Ok, thats on a Lux. What about a Cruiser?? Is there any way to widen the rear track?

To do that on the front of a 60, you bolt up a 80 series rear on the back, that will give you 4" of width, so you are a little wider back there than the front, clear the tray etc....

Ill sell you my FZJ80 rear diff if you like.

JAKE wrote:im interested.... so this will fit onto cruiser diffs ...front and rear?

they will fit the front of a cruiser

GROUP BUY SOFARE...


ausyota
big38l
junglist
308LUX
JAKE ??
Stepho ??

bj on roids wrote:

Stepho wrote:

cbr wrote:

junglist wrote:Still waiting on trying to work out the total cost of the swap.
What do all the bits needed total at $$
Doing the front and the back.
Thanks.

To do the front you need the IFS hubs and the widening kit.

To do the rear you need to buy a complete IFS rear diff out of a hilux. These diff's are the same as you have now expect 1.5" wider each side, for a total of 3" wider. I think from memory you also need the ubolts and plates from the IFS diff.

Chris.

Ok, thats on a Lux. What about a Cruiser?? Is there any way to widen the rear track?

To do that on the front of a 60, you bolt up a 80 series rear on the back, that will give you 4" of width, so you are a little wider back there than the front, clear the tray etc....

Ill sell you my FZJ80 rear diff if you like.

Thanks for the info and offer BJ but I'll have to pass on the rear axle for the mo.

So for an 80 series you only supply a front widekit ?

Would prefer all 4 wide

Mad Cruiser wrote:So for an 80 series you only supply a front widekit ?

Would prefer all 4 wide

put front 75's hubs on the rear to widen it (off memory)\



NICK

Mad Cruiser wrote:So for an 80 series you only supply a front widekit ?

Would prefer all 4 wide

you need 100S axles, or wheels or spacers.

the hubs on an 80 are essentially a similar design to the IFS hubs, so the hub wouldnt give you any width

308LUX wrote:GROUP BUY SOFARE...


ausyota
big38l
junglist
308LUX
JAKE ??
Stepho ??

Old Yella

you can count me in if the price is right

Whoever is definately interested in the group buy add your name to the list. Once we have definate numbers i can work out a price for everyone.

I will leave it until about tuesday or wednesday before i give everyone a quote, so if your interested add your name before then or you may miss out!

NICK wrote:

Mad Cruiser wrote:So for an 80 series you only supply a front widekit ?

Would prefer all 4 wide

put front 75's hubs on the rear to widen it (off memory)\



NICK

early of late 75S ?

i know the early ones are just like 40/60S but the later 75s had discs

do the hubs have bigger offset ?

Do they fit ?

I'm in

planb wrote:

NICK wrote:

Mad Cruiser wrote:So for an 80 series you only supply a front widekit ?

Would prefer all 4 wide

put front 75's hubs on the rear to widen it (off memory)\



NICK

early of late 75S ?

i know the early ones are just like 40/60S but the later 75s had discs

do the hubs have bigger offset ?

Do they fit ?

i will have to check again but i had 2 sitting side by side at work the other day and thought to myself mmmmmmmmmmmmmm that would widen the rear. It is the HZJ that has the discs not the HJ

NICK

im interested too.........

Depending on price, I may be in too.

M&M Custom Engineering wrote:The widetrack kit uses the IFS hubs to widen the track, the spacer is used to align the disc back up with the caliper.


Wheel spacers are illegal, the IFS hub conversion is legal.

I believe the conversion may be legal ONLY if you use the IFS wheels. These IFS wheels have a different off set to the solid axle wheel rims. (Rear axle included.)

So every one should be now asking is it legal to run a wider offset rim, I would say a definite no to that last question.
This may mean that if you dont change your rims the net result of the conversion is that it is illegal.
Does the conversion come with an engineers report certifying they are legal?

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I dont want to get into another "can this be engineered" debate.

IFS Hub Kits have been fitted to vehicles that have then been engineer approved.

I'll probably eat my hat over this but, the thought I have is, are offset rims illegal or not engineerable??? if they are legal why go to the expense of ifs front hubs and rear axle??? not money that can be retrieved at re-sale(generally) but offset rims can be removed and re-used.
I understand that some competition rigs are looking to go as wide as possible and that 3" will come in handy, but for others who dont want wheels hanging six inches out of the gaurds it would draw a little much attention on the way to work for me?

high n mighty wrote:I'll probably eat my hat over this but, the thought I have is, are offset rims illegal or not engineerable??? if they are legal why go to the expense of ifs front hubs and rear axle??? not money that can be retrieved at re-sale(generally) but offset rims can be removed and re-used.
I understand that some competition rigs are looking to go as wide as possible and that 3" will come in handy, but for others who dont want wheels hanging six inches out of the gaurds it would draw a little much attention on the way to work for me?

The use of an IFS hub swap was originally thought up for people like me that are doing a solid front axle swap to an IFS lux.
You allready have the wider rear diff and need the wider front to match.
Paul.

So are offset rim legal?, is engineering required?

high n mighty wrote:So are offset rim legal?, is engineering required?

Dude start a new thread........ This has nothing to do with the Wide Axle Kit.

My apoligize, thought about it and just wanted to know the overall benifits, an if it was worth me going this way. If offsets are legal there is no reason me purchasing this product, if I can't ask the advice in THE THREAD containing the product there is no point buying it then is there

Some, like me, have offset rims, and want more width hence going for widetrack kit.