220kms til out of fuel

[murcod]

You can check if it's going into closed loop by monitoring the oxygen sensor voltage at the ECU. In open loop it will be a constant voltage, in closed it will cycle up and down (between roughly 0 to 1V DC from memory?) If it's at either end of that scale then its in open loop. Full throttle or cold coolant temp will drop it out of closed loop.

You'll need to get the temp problems sorted first as there's no way it would be going into closed loop from what you've said.

[Gwagensteve]

Yeah no worries - I reckon getting the thermostat on there will be a big step in the right direction.

Try and keep the thermostat as close as possible to the block (i.e don't run it too far along the pipe) or you could find the motor runs hot.

Steve.

[BlueSuzy]

yup, Ok. I will run a plate with an inset cut on the lathe for the thermostat, the thermostat, then make the original plate of my piping fit over the thermostat with a gasket and silicone!

Looks like the plans for next week are booked! Modifying thermostat, And full spring reconstruction

[Santos]

heat shielding on the extractors might be an idea or alternatively on the water pipe!

[nicbeer]

I bought a temp gauge today just to make sure of this, Yet to hook it up. What degrees should a 1.6 normally come to running temp?

depends on where the sensor is but mines in top hose and sits on about 85 normally.

[BlueSuzy]

The heat sheilding idea could be alright, but that can be a next stage if she wants to overheat i think. Im still using my 1.3 radiator and fan so there is still upgrades if this happens too.

[alien]

Yesterday i actually shadeclothed the entire front of the zuk, behind the bar work, basically where the stock bumper used to go - its well hidden by the bar and doesnt cover the grille... I did this purely because with this colder weather the zuk is getting way too much air under the bonnet and barely breaking the "low" line on the temp guage... now with shadecloth it sits parrallel with the low line, so about 5-6mm up. Thats just below where it ran in summer.

Ill see now if that helps =)

[rustyzook]

i have thermo in my 1ltr and it sits below the low line, lock the hubs in and low range in slow crawling it overheats....

[alien]

mine never overheats - and its running cheap coolant in a stock 1.3l radiator on the vit 1.6 engine... i even drove 10km in low range on a 25+ degree day in the sun and it never broke the half way line.

i'd suggest getting your thermostat and radiator checked.

This said though - we all know how dodgy the fuel sender is, how accurate is the temp guage on the dash???

[j-top paj]

did your "snake racing" mod help at all?

[Gwagensteve]

I noticed in the snake thread that the elbow into your throttle body is a bit smaller diameter than the throttle body. This might be upsetting things a bit, especially with such a close run to the air filter.

Just a thought. It shouldn't make a heap of difference, but won't be helping.

Steve.

[BlueSuzy]

i put the airbox on bout 2weeks ago, it was the same with the 1.3 airbox, still same mileage...bout average 220kms. In process of redoing the water piping now, bit frustrating..

[BlueSuzy]

Tonight i have finished the new piping with a thermostat!! Will put up pics tomorrow.

Test run in driveway up to temp all is good. When it raised up to temp, it sits half way max on sierra guage. No leaks and was idoling too low when up to temp, so raised the idol screw alittle so its about 850/900 now instead of 200.
Also before there was like residue coming out of the exhaust(Probably fuel), Now non-existant.
And now has a different exhaust note through the revs now

The test run was all good, Ran it around up and down still sat on half, Got onto a freeway and she went like a dream, smooth as to 120 (prob 130) temp just sat on half.

The thermostat said 88 degrees on it, so im guessing thats the norm running temp 4 a baleno.

Now hopefully my problem has changed, yet to figure out a good run in kms...Have to fix the fuel gauge, when nearly empty it raises up to 1/4. When full its dead empty!

Thankyou very much for everyones help, hoping it fixed it! Thanks!

[Santos]

your fuel tank wires may be inverted

My tank guage never passes the half way mark but reads empty when nearin empty.
Always been like that, never bothered fixing it as i will eventually go fuel injected, i just fill it up and keep an eye on the odometer.

lets hope you get it below the 15l mark (then we can get it closer to 12!)

[GRPABT1]

mine never overheats - and its running cheap coolant in a stock 1.3l radiator on the vit 1.6 engine... i even drove 10km in low range on a 25+ degree day in the sun and it never broke the half way line.

i'd suggest getting your thermostat and radiator checked.

This said though - we all know how dodgy the fuel sender is, how accurate is the temp guage on the dash???

Tis a different story when wheeling in heat that is 35 degrees in the shade. I'm gonna buy an alloy radiator from low range soon and try it with my thermo and if it doesn't help then buy the thermo with shroud from them. I can over heat my zook crawling in the summer up here but on the way to work in the morning even with 10 minutes of highway it still doesn't reach operating temp and I give it a decent warm up before leaving the driveway.

[alien]

True - on those hot summer days the temp does climb - but never enough that i have to rethink the hill im climbing - although sometimes once we get to the top we have given the zuk a "rest" cos the engine temp reached half way...

This said though - when my engine reaches half way on the guage you just cant hold your hand on the bonnet - its way too hot! (no insulation on bonnet).

[GRPABT1]

True - on those hot summer days the temp does climb - but never enough that i have to rethink the hill im climbing - although sometimes once we get to the top we have given the zuk a "rest" cos the engine temp reached half way...

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This is what I have to do in summer too.

[BlueSuzy]

A standard sierra has 1 wire going to the fuel tank for the float level. It did work with the old motor.

My Coily tank is using that same 1 wire for the original float out of the old tank, But i also have the efi pump inside = 3wires all up.

If i had the pump wires mixed up, Why would that make a difference?Would'nt the pump run backwards?

[BlueSuzy]

1st full fuel consumption test was 258kms.

I filled up on Friday night, went for a drive down the coast, bout 60kms with a massive headwind blowing the car around, But other then that, normal relaxed driving for the rest of the test.

Also i would like to work it out, i have 33"s now(*really 32") and 6.5.1 gears, so what distance would it more likely be on my odometer? More kms im guessing..

[Santos]

How are you doing the test?

I tend to fill up and set the counter to 0. When i hit about 100kms i fill up the tank. I note how much fuel it took and divide it by the distance i travelled. If you get consistant numbers than you can work out an average.

Still think you should fit a dfferent air filter and have the air plumbed to the factory locatn behind the batery, and does your engine have a MAP sensor? i know the gti's have MAF

[Gwagensteve]

Baleno are MAP.

Steve.

[BlueSuzy]

Im doing the test by filling up, Press the odo reset doova, then drive till she dies. Emergency jerrycan backup.

Baleno motor has a MAP sensor.

I need to work out the proper ratio for the kms because of my tyres.

[Gwagensteve]

This comes up regularly - transfer gears HAVE NO EFFECT ON SPEEDO ACCURACY - tyre size and diff gears only effect speedo readings, so if you have 32" tyres - you're nearly 25% out, so your 258km is closer to 320km.

Steve.

[BlueSuzy]

Ok sorry!!! Well 320, its still an improvement i think!! will be getting rid of that elbow and wire up the backupwire this week.

[Gwagensteve]

I actually think 320 Km is pretty good - I assume that's from 35 litres or so?

Steve.

[BlueSuzy]

Well i can still do what i was going to do, i think 12.5 per 100 is good!!

I have an undinted tank also, so yeah probably 35L used

[Gwagensteve]

Well, based on your last figures, you're getting 10.9l/100km. That's pretty good.

Steve.

[RockHopper]

you sure someone isnt siphoning your tank or something?
for 20L/100 you might as well drive a patrol

lol. Thought it was funny to read this the day after I sold my Patrol and bought a Suzi for that exact reason.

[j-top paj]

you sure someone isnt siphoning your tank or something?
for 20L/100 you might as well drive a patrol

lol. Thought it was funny to read this the day after I sold my Patrol and bought a Suzi for that exact reason.

why didnt you just not drive the patrol for a month and buy a zook with the savings from the fuel after?