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I never said flex was bad .. I said it was overrated ...

A locked stocker would drive that.
I also said that with proper spring and shackle setup you would get equal flex to the wacky shackles without the weird handling traits.

does anyone have the link to mocks "critter" before he went full exo etc flexing as it drives the rut, easily maxing out the 9012 rancho's

as they say....you can lead a horse to water..........

love_mud wrote:

I also said that with proper spring and shackle setup you would get equal flex to the wacky shackles without the weird handling traits.

does anyone have the link to mocks "critter" before he went full exo etc flexing as it drives the rut, easily maxing out the 9012 rancho's

and thats the sort of information i come here to read, BUT 9/10 of all write ups from 2002/2003/2004 are, im sure great but the pics are gone which makes it totally useless.
yes longer leafs softer leafs will make it flex and move like any set up.
i like to drive rocks where a bit of clearance and approch and ramp over and departure are needed...

what is my best way to get a good setup with leafs??

i have full RUF

joeblow wrote:as they say....you can lead a horse to water..........

thankx for the input. you should be proud

no probs...invoice is in the mail....

GRPABT1 wrote:

Dee wrote:I reckon they can have their place, particularly in the rocks with a fair bit of unsprung weight, and some center limit-straps, but not on a road driven car. I just cant see someone having road-driven sierra big enough to need them. simcoz's rig on irok's is one that springs to mind..
That said I'd sooner have long flat flexy leaves with a big shackle angle for lots of drop and/or a 3/4" elliptical rear before drop shackles...

Bwahahahaha! You had drop shackles before you went to normal shackles lol.

meaning what exactly? that i've been there & done that?
like i said, pull em off, sell em, put the $ towards a locker. in hindsight the first mod i'd do to a sierra is a locker if I was to wheel it as is.

I actually only made them because i wanted to fit longer leaves without cutting & welding / relocating stock mounts...

I ended up pulling them out all, & getting way more flex by going to a conventional extended shackle & relocating the spring so its well setup for droop, improved on-road drivablity too.

I still reckon they can have their place & work well, providing they have the unsprung weight to put them into any use.
(i.e. See simcoz's rig with bigger diffs on 36+" irocks & liam from bbm's with Dana's & 35" boggers...)

i just bought this suzki and it had evey thing on it lockers, bar, race seats,winch,rock hoppers,1.6 motor,roll bar,31 tyres,bead lockers,alloy half roof,drop shackles,ect

I could have driven that line in my rear locked zook any day of the week, flex is over rated

Dee wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

Dee wrote: That said I'd sooner have long flat flexy leaves with a big shackle angle for lots of drop and/or a 3/4" elliptical rear before drop shackles...

Bwahahahaha! You had drop shackles before you went to normal shackles lol.

meaning what exactly?

I was pointing out your utter contradiction. But yes I agree on wacky shackles.

GRPABT1 wrote:I could have driven that line in my rear locked zook any day of the week, flex is over rated

with a bit of speed i could of takin my girlfriends lancer thru there as well, whats your point..
did u think that because there was a pic taken that it was struggling or stuck or maxed out or a HARD track worthy of a " i could drive that in a stocker"
but yes zooks are very capable in near std form, no one will doubt that, i drove nearly all the same tracks b4 as i do now just now its easier and safer and b4 it was more fun, nothing like wheelstands

OK we get it, you like your wacky shackles. Just as I like my calmini kit. Stop trying to defend it beyond you're levels of knowledge, plenty of people on here have waaaay more experience in zooks and drop shackles and have mentioned their negatives and have the opinion that they outway the positives.

GRPABT1 wrote:

Dee wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

Dee wrote: That said I'd sooner have long flat flexy leaves with a big shackle angle for lots of drop and/or a 3/4" elliptical rear before drop shackles...

Bwahahahaha! You had drop shackles before you went to normal shackles lol.

meaning what exactly?

I was pointing out your utter contradiction. But yes I agree on wacky shackles.

I can see how you might think its a contradiction, but it's meant as a 'speaking from my experiences with drop shackles' type thing...

geez reading this is almost as fun as listening to the missus biatch to her friends on the phone. except you guys aint talking about me.

geez reading this is almost as fun as listening to the missus biatch to her friends on the phone. except you guys aint talking about me.

Best bit yet
Nik

built4thrashing wrote:geez reading this is almost as fun as listening to the missus biatch to her friends on the phone. except you guys aint talking about me.

Are you sure we arent going on about you ... <<<< you have entered the twilight zone ... and you are a wacky shackle >>>>>>

ok ok ok the higher powers have spoken, ill listen to the advice of others!!

im talking front

what is the best way to set it up???

i already have rears up front, i have longer shocks, relocated shock mounts, extended brake lines.
i dont have chassic extention!!
i do have a link that extends the shackle to make a better shackle angle.

this is ment to be a tech thread, where less knowledged ppl ask questions and hopefully get informative answers!!

You want a balance between the front and rear, with about a 50/50 split on articulation.
Idealy this needs to happen all that way through the suspensions cylce not just when the rear runs out of flex and starts to load up the front suspension.

Real Sierras don't flex, they just lift wheels

Gwagensteve wrote:

Gwagensteve wrote:

gwagensteve wrote:

gwagensteve wrote:

Dee wrote:sell em & put the money towards a locker.

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11_evl wrote:ok ok ok the higher powers have spoken, ill listen to the advice of others!!

im talking front

what is the best way to set it up???

i already have rears up front, i have longer shocks, relocated shock mounts, extended brake lines.
i dont have chassic extention!!
i do have a link that extends the shackle to make a better shackle angle.

this is ment to be a tech thread, where less knowledged ppl ask questions and hopefully get informative answers!!

hey mate can u put up pics of your rears up front without chassis extension or send them to me