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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:51 pm
by grimbo
but I bet it wasn't in a huge lifted V8 Hilux on 35" tyres

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:54 pm
by jessie928
grimbo wrote:but I bet it wasn't in a huge lifted V8 Hilux on 35" tyres
yeah but he didnt say it was a huge lifted hilux with 35" tyres :)

and to quote myself
if your car is not to top heavy, and you have a smooth paddock, go apeshit.
you can roll your car on a firetrail
you can roll your car doing doughnuts in a paddock.

if there was a coice on where to roll your fourby , i bet you 10 out of 10 you would want to roll it in a paddock and not half way up or down a steep decent in a rut in the mud!

:D
Jes

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:57 pm
by grimbo
jessie928 wrote:
grimbo wrote:but I bet it wasn't in a huge lifted V8 Hilux on 35" tyres
yeah but he didnt say it was a huge lifted hilux with 35" tyres :)

and to quote myself
if your car is not to top heavy, and you have a smooth paddock, go apeshit.
:D
Jes
nope not in this thread but he has in another thread

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:02 pm
by jessie928
grimbo wrote:
jessie928 wrote:
grimbo wrote:but I bet it wasn't in a huge lifted V8 Hilux on 35" tyres
yeah but he didnt say it was a huge lifted hilux with 35" tyres :)

and to quote myself
if your car is not to top heavy, and you have a smooth paddock, go apeshit.
:D
Jes
nope not in this thread but he has in another thread
as i quoted above, i said not top heavy and in a paddock.

Doghy's are safer.

JEs

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:08 pm
by ferog
jessie928 wrote:
???

you have seriously missed the whole point. i wont make a comment in regards to the bitch slap comment, because it may get out of line :)

how can you SERIOUSLY argue a firetrail is safer than chuking doughnutrs in a paddock???? I was chucking doughnuts in paddocks when i was 10 years old.

JEs
Yeah there's a smart boy hang on to your bitch slap comment it'll keep you warm in bed tonight. ;)

As I already pointed out, here's my pov 'simplified' just for you into a question- Which is a Hilux more appropriate for, respecting it's overall build design and intended uses- a fire-trail or paddock doughnuts?

Re: Need advice, what does that funny shifter thing in my 4w

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:09 pm
by coxy321
e32 wrote:Anyhow, i am not 100% sure on the workings of a 4wd, and have a few questions, particularly regarding the different modes (2wd 4wd etc)
I'm pretty sure there are stickers on the drivers' sunvisor and also on/inside the glove box that explain EVERYTHING in regards to using High and Low range.

I use low range (2WD) for tricky reversing, speed control over rough terrain, or if i'm pulling stumps or something.

Coxy

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:10 pm
by ferog
jessie928 wrote:
if there was a coice on where to roll your fourby , i bet you 10 out of 10 you would want to roll it in a paddock and not half way up or down a steep decent in a rut in the mud!

:D
Jes
No way, if's it's going over during donuts you're not getting off lightly, especially with a V8 to supply the fury.

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:53 pm
by macca81
jes, if we get down to the leval of "having fun", then the reason you buy a 4wd for having fun is to go 4wding. if you consider "having fun" means that you sit in a paddock doing doughies, then go out and buy a $200 falcon ute and thrash it, thats what they are made for.

hilux = 4wding
commadore/ford = doughnuts


irrespective of whether there is a risk of rolling when on a firetrail, you are usualy conscious of this and going fairly slowly anyway so will often have time to correct yourself to avoid such a roll.
if you have your foot to the floor and your wheels at full lock, the g-forces acting upon a 4wd vehicle make it very prone to rolling. and i dont care how good you are, if you start lifting wheels when going hard doinf nuts, its just dumb luck if you can correct enough to save a roll.


stop being a tool and go buy an old falcon if you wanna do nuts. its safer that way.




in responce to the origional question. take a 4wd course, read this forum heaps, go on your first few trips with expirienced 4wders, and have fun doing it!

and go hooning on your dirtbike :D :armsup:

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:19 pm
by Struth
My vote,

You are abusing your 4WD if you go out and do doughnuts in it.

It is designed to offer maximum traction in rough terrain, not lack of traction in doughnut land :finger:

In fact even your old Falcon ute isn't designed for doughnuts, but it is more suiteed than a 4WD.

Cheers

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:43 pm
by jessie928
macca81 wrote:jes, if we get down to the leval of "having fun", then the reason you buy a 4wd for having fun is to go 4wding. if you consider "having fun" means that you sit in a paddock doing doughies, then go out and buy a $200 falcon ute and thrash it, thats what they are made for.

hilux = 4wding
commadore/ford = doughnuts


irrespective of whether there is a risk of rolling when on a firetrail, you are usualy conscious of this and going fairly slowly anyway so will often have time to correct yourself to avoid such a roll.
if you have your foot to the floor and your wheels at full lock, the g-forces acting upon a 4wd vehicle make it very prone to rolling. and i dont care how good you are, if you start lifting wheels when going hard doinf nuts, its just dumb luck if you can correct enough to save a roll.


stop being a tool and go buy an old falcon if you wanna do nuts. its safer that way.




in responce to the origional question. take a 4wd course, read this forum heaps, go on your first few trips with expirienced 4wders, and have fun doing it!

and go hooning on your dirtbike :D :armsup:
200 bucks is all i would pay for a hilux anyway

JEs

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:48 pm
by jessie928
macca81 wrote:jes, if we get down to the leval of "having fun", then the reason you buy a 4wd for having fun is to go 4wding. if you consider "having fun" means that you sit in a paddock doing doughies, then go out and buy a $200 falcon ute and thrash it, thats what they are made for.

hilux = 4wding
commadore/ford = doughnuts


irrespective of whether there is a risk of rolling when on a firetrail, you are usualy conscious of this and going fairly slowly anyway so will often have time to correct yourself to avoid such a roll.
if you have your foot to the floor and your wheels at full lock, the g-forces acting upon a 4wd vehicle make it very prone to rolling. and i dont care how good you are, if you start lifting wheels when going hard doinf nuts, its just dumb luck if you can correct enough to save a roll.


stop being a tool and go buy an old falcon if you wanna do nuts. its safer that way.




in responce to the origional question. take a 4wd course, read this forum heaps, go on your first few trips with expirienced 4wders, and have fun doing it!

and go hooning on your dirtbike :D :armsup:

its safer sticking to the bitumen, stay off dirt tracks ...

you guys are basing your thoughts and exceptions on how you would treat your own truck and what you interpret as " fun"

the answer is quite obvious, and you guys are doing your darndest to make excuses to prove yourselves right...:D

i'd rather chuck doughnuts in a f-250 than a falken ute, its MORE FUN!!!

get it??

Jes
:)

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:17 pm
by trains
Let him go do donuts if its on private land.

Next week he comes back asking about where to buy a spare body for his lux as it tipped over wrecking everything.

The trick with getting older is to trade experience for knowledge, without killing yourself in the process.

Older just means weve done it before, and decided it was too expensive, or not worth doing again in a hurry ;) hehe.

If you want to do donuts, just get a cheapie small car and have a ball.
I think you will find that your lux will bite if you use it.
Anyway, once you have done some real 4x4ing, you wont see donuts as the best way to spend your time driving :twisted:

T

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:24 pm
by Guy
jessie928 wrote:
love_mud wrote:
jessie928 wrote:
grimbo wrote:
jessie928 wrote:ts amazing the hypocricy some people come up with.so Dunking your car into a bonnet full of water is ok, bashing your car onto rocks, through mud, going end over down a steep decent, flipping it going up a steep incline is cool, but chucking doughy's isnt?

Jes
how is that hypocritical? They are all part in parcel of driving a track. Chucking a doughy is just being silly. It does not mean you are getting further on the track, has no role to play other than going in a circle throwing mud.
where are you going down a track? do you have to be there? you are going for pure pleasure, same in a competition. PLEASURE is teh operative word.

driving a firetrail simply to drive it may seem silly aswell to most people, but we all do it for the fun of it. correct?

funny argument from you....

Jes
Getting further down the track takes some level of skill and thought hanging donuts .. well .. turn the wheel and hold it flat pretty much sums it up .. I can hang donuts on my ride on mower if I want ...

I guess it is whatever floats your boat... If going round and round in very small circles on private land is what does it for you, good for you .. most people grow out of this by about age 18.
so what, ? so your more intelligent because you dont chuck dougnuts?
hanging donuts .. well .. turn the wheel and hold it flat pretty much sums it up .
is there must be so much more involved in getting in and out of a boggole other than pointing the wheel and putting your foot flat to the floor???

going through a boghole, blocking yoru radiator, buggering yoru alternator, frigging all yoru bearings and flooding the truck....as opposed to chucking doughnuts... hmmm maybe its an intelligence thing.

you can also drive down a firetrail in your ride on, you will probably get furthur down also.

Jes



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Nope you got it all wrong
I said exactly what I meant, no reading between the lines or infered meanings.

If paying alot of money for a 4wd to do donuts in is your thing .. go for it.

You are no more or less intelligent if you like doing donuts...