GREEN GTI ZOOK BUILD

[suzuki boy]

Ah yeah by the way lookin the goods keep it up....

[ScrawnC]

Joe is sayin that whjen people are buildin a rig and say it's registed but not too worried if it only turns into a bush rig cause then if you kill one in another car your not covered by stuff you would be if you where in an engineered car.......Right joe?

Thanks, you've made it no clearer for me. Didn't understand it the first time either.

Your car is looking real good now Lexplay!! Let me know when you want mine dropped over for the full respray too
You won't want to take it out bush now, way too flash!!

[lexplay]

Looks awesome mate.

Just a quick question, can you explain maybe some pic's of how you pulled the dents with the washers. I've seen it done this sort of thing done but with a slide hammer. Just wondering how you pulled it I guess. Was it just with some serious beefcake and a trusty set of pliers.. etc.

its not that hard just grind the paint off, weld some metal tabs to the pannel then pull on them with pliers. sometimes pulling the tab to the side helps it pull a bit easier. soory no pics the jobs done.
dont know if its the best way to do it but it got the job done.

nah i wont be shy to hit any trails cause i can just fix the panel that i dent wont have to be a full strip down respray.

oh yea i still have to put my WT flares on too.
and put the gti motor in, and , and ,and the list will never end

[nicbeer]

looking good there.

hope my rims come out that nice and shiny too

Will bring the rims round next week maybe. then i'll book the zook in for paint after the soarer. hehe

[get it up there]

Thats coming along awesome mate.. good work!! Nice colour too

[rustyzook]

weld a nice sized washer and get a slide hammer with your hook head and give it a few nice taps, spot welder is better tho!!! depending on the size of the dint u might be able to use vice grips and a tug.

Where as if your metal is "oil canning" or your dent is an outty get an oxy, set to a netrual flame and get a wodden mallet and a wet rag, work from the out side in, do it in a circle and hold the torch about 5cm away and make a "cherry red" cot about the size of a 10C piece, give it a tap and cool with wet rag.

This shrinks the metal and takes out the "bluge" and "oil canning"

just dont get to hot.

[lexplay]

a couple more pics from last nights buffing and putting it back together.


dont mind the white dots thats just polish.
got the wheels off cause im painting them black tonight and doing the chassis black. plus painting the flares and grill tonight, so should be back together by thursday if all goes to plan.

[nicbeer]

going to be the prettiest sierra in perth

at least for 5 mins

[lexplay]

ha ha yea i bet. i recon next time i at the mud pit ill be getting picked on cause my paint too shiney lol.
yea hurry up and get those rims sand blasted nic then you will have some shiney parts on your car as well

[cookie monster]

Geez, this brings back memories !!


Your finish is nice and deep and looks great.

Looking forward to the rest of the build.

cookie monster

[lexplay]

ha ha yea does look familier. im happy mine is all done now.
i painted the last of everything last night so should smash it all back together tonight ready to take out on the weekend.

while i had the car jacked up i started looking at my suspension setup. if i didnt have to use this car to get to work while i supercharge my v8 then i would have ground the leaf mounts of and started modifying it.

but any ways here are some measurements i took.
all measurements from bottom of fender to hub centre.
FRONT
on stands under diff. 500mm
on stands under chassis 540mm
on stands under chassis and shock disconected 570mm


REAR
on stands under diff. 570mm
on stands under chassis. 570mm
on stands under chassis and shock disconected. 600mm

as you can see i have no drop on the rear when i let the diff down and the shocks are too short.
the car came with this setup it has 2inch kings leafs and rancho shocks.
my problem is that i can feel everysingle bump that the car goes over its a rough as anything.
also think their are to many leafs in leaf packs but im not that fussed as i want to go jeep leafs and wider diffs still deciding what ones.

[Pezooki]

Hi lexplay.

The paint is looking good!

With regards to your current 2" King spring setup - have a look here:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic128 ... highlight=

That might be some help!

Pez

[lexplay]

thanks for that pezooki it looks like ill have to do the same as you have done and i would say the same, dont buy kings leafs.
i got the commodore and hilux shocks im going to put in as well when i take the extra leafs out. maybe this weekend.

[Pezooki]

No worries mate.

My zook currently has "Ultima" shocks, which are very crap! (they came with the car). I am about to try the comm/hilux shocks too. Make sure you let us all know what you think of them!

Cheers,

Pez

[lexplay]

heres a pic of her i took on the weekend all finished.
i was thinking of pulling some leafs out but now might just go new leafs all together. either the mazda ones or jeep ones still undesided. just depends what comes along i guess.

[nicbeer]

lookin flash.

now just need some bar up the front.

[lexplay]

yea i know. the narva rep is here showing me the new spottie range. they looking flash. so yea need a bar to mount some on. pretty good price as well if u keen.

[lexplay]

quik question for you pro's out their.
i have the option right now and probally this week only to get my diffs. i have the options of
1 hilux diffs
2 MQ diffs
3 GQ diffs
i know hilux is easy because its been done lots, GQ have pretty big centre's and the gearing is probally wrong for the little zook motor. (it will be the gti 1.3)
im kinda leading toward the MQ beacause they have offset centres like the zook. but dont know if its got lsd's in their or if their is many aftermarket options on centres.
both the MQ and GQ will probally be gone by the end of the weekend if i dont make mymind up quik so some opionions would be good cheers.

by the way i want car to be pretty wild by time its finished so i want to go as wide as possible.( picture in my head is full tyres out side of body

[nicbeer]

you still planning sua? or spoa/coils?

[GRPABT1]

You can get lokka auto lockers for MQ diffs AFAIK

[badger]

you can get arb's for an mq, the only gearing options you have are 4.1, 4.3 or 4.6 tho

[tuls]

go the hilux diffs easy to get parts for and more options if u want to go coils later as i said parts are always around. doing the swap soon cheers Tuls

[lexplay]

thanks for your input guys.
im kinda leaning towards hilux but their the hardest ones to get as my brother wants to put them in his zook. maybe i can bribe him to give them to me.
still might get the MQ and wreck it out any ways cause its pretty much free for the whole car with good running gear.
see how i go this weekend.

[Gwagensteve]

You're NT - no diff swaps are all that easy.

Hilux are about the worst possible diffs you could choose. Steering and rear diff offset are the big problems- adds a lot of stuffing aorund the the setup.

MQ have good offset, and if you wide track the front spring mounts the front is a good fit for SPUA.

you have 3.9 diffs now, so any hilux or MQ diff will have pretty good gearing, but the most useful is probably 4.6 MQ petrol.

Next most useful might be 60/75 series. Big and heavy but very strong and the offset and steering are pretty easy to work with.

GQ- far to wide, poor offset. Only of interest if you're going to build a monster.

All of these diffs though are far too big an heavy unless you are planning over a 35" tyre IMHO.

Steve.

[lexplay]

thanks for all that steve.
im pretty keen on the MQ but i thinks its got the L28 motor in it so have to see what gearing it has. it is a narrow track but im so keen to go wider and run bigger tyres with huge offset that ill just keep chopping and welding till its done.
im going to do chassis extension on the front to run the rears up front and i got some jeep leafs for the back. if it becomes hard to mount the front diff to the narrow track cause of the bigger pumpkin or what not i could change the front to WT while i do the chassis extension.
keeping it SOA alll the way.

[GRPABT1]

Would dana diffs like they do in the US be an option? I know they are not as commonly available here but is it an easy swap?

[lexplay]

yea not that common are they.
damn i always get spoa and spua mixed up. im going to keep it SPUA.
my mate sold the MQ to another guy to trash out bush so hopefully it wont be too far out when it breaks so i can get the diffs. .
first im going to put the gti motor in and do the leafs and shocks then diffs,
just got to get my other car out the shed

[lexplay]

guess i should update this thread as its all comin along nicely since i got motorvated and stuck into it.
the motor is in and im just about to wire her up. any ways heres some pics

motor in

this is my dizzy setup running the gti dizzy with a bit of machining

just chopped and welded the water outlet and fits perfect.
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[redzook]

You're NT - no diff swaps are all that easy.

Hilux are about the worst possible diffs you could choose. Steering and rear diff offset are the big problems-

Next most useful might be 60/75 series. Big and heavy but very strong and the offset and steering are pretty easy to work with.

Steve.

your saying hilux steering is a big problem

and 60series is not a problem?

how so?

[Gwagensteve]

Because of the J arm/drag link that has to be converted to crossover to work on a sierra.

60's are already crossover, as are MQ.

Yes, there's lots of arms etc available for hilux but it's just one more cost.

Steve.