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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:49 pm
by Guy
N*A*M wrote:don't you have an overkill coiled sierra?



All photochop :D

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:52 pm
by greg
uphiir wrote:Yes, Yes I do...


So you have 2 sierras? or is the coiler becoming the Tim Hardy replica?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:55 pm
by grimbo
Ok so spell it out us slow people in the back row.

You aren't doing this to the coiled Sierra but to another one? what is wrong with the coil sprung one? Or is it for the g/f? Or is it because stalking TH is getting too hard with all the restraining orders?

You will also need to grow a handlebar mo and get a little sausage dog for trail riding.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:03 pm
by Dozoor
Dude you need a red one , I can do a great deal on a red one, :shock:
then you just gotta take some bits of and play with the springs , :cool:

well sort of :roll:

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:04 pm
by SAWZALL
grimbo wrote:Ok so spell it out us slow people in the back row.

You aren't doing this to the coiled Sierra but to another one? what is wrong with the coil sprung one? Or is it for the g/f? Or is it because stalking TH is getting too hard with all the restraining orders?

You will also need to grow a handlebar mo and get a little sausage dog for trail riding.


OK I will type S-L-O-W. I have a Suzuki Sierra that has the prototype Overkill coil conversion. It's charcoal coloured, you now the bling bling one. I am going to turn THAT ZUK into a THR.

There is NOTHING wrong with the coil conversion (It will live on in a "different" form). It rides smooth, flexes very well and is VERY compatent off road. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT!!!!

I wanna build a THR.....that is it......When I first got back from the US I swore I'd build one and now I'm gonna!

Gotta find me a Yosemity(sp) Sam Hat too hehehe

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:06 pm
by N*A*M
start from scratch with a red one ;)

even consider selling your coil one intact as it is. could make plenty back to fund the THR.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:09 pm
by grimbo
N*A*M wrote:start from scratch with a red one ;)

even consider selling your coil one intact as it is. could make plenty back to fund the THR.


Yeah I agree sell the coil converted one and use the funds to start from scratch. You could sell it to me for a small fee if you like or maybe swap it for my ute :D

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:51 pm
by greg
grimbo wrote:Yeah I agree sell the coil converted one and use the funds to start from scratch. You could sell it to me for a small fee if you like or maybe swap it for my ute :D


I agree - sell it to grimbo - then he can stop whinging about his current zook and start whinging about the new one :?

;)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:19 pm
by N*A*M
what would tim hardy do? ;)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:47 pm
by redzook
uphiir wrote:Another after.....you guys know what it looks like now anyway


i dont get why he has his tyres so flat?

or is it to "brake in the sidewalls"

btw any 1 know what tyres they are? :?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:50 pm
by Guy
redzook wrote:
uphiir wrote:Another after.....you guys know what it looks like now anyway


i dont get why he has his tyres so flat?

or is it to "brake in the sidewalls"

btw any 1 know what tyres they are? :?


35 Inch BFG MT KM because he likes to wheel without valve cores .. shot taken during the 2002 petersons ultimate adventure tour

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:54 pm
by redzook
why the fark would u wheel without air?

bet he has a heep of diff clearance ;)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:01 pm
by grimbo
redzook wrote:why the fark would u wheel without air?

bet he has a heep of diff clearance ;)


because he can. he is the sort of guy that will do stuff just cause he can. he did Top Truck years ago in a silver Zuk towing a trailer cause he could, almost won it too! He isn't scared of putting the Zuk into all sorts of strange lines to get it thru an obstacle. It was his wifes Zuk originally and he took it out once realised how nice it was and then it looked the after pic :D

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:33 pm
by greg
love_mud wrote: shot taken during the 2002 petersons ultimate adventure tour


are you sure about this? from the pics i have of it on this trip it looks to me in much better nick :?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:38 pm
by DeWsE
why the fark would u wheel without air?

bet he has a heep of diff clearance


Yeah but after seeing pic's of what he can do in his zook its hard to say that he's doing something wrong.
As you know the tallest truck doesn't always win out in the trails!

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:40 pm
by redzook
DeWsE wrote:
why the fark would u wheel without air?

bet he has a heep of diff clearance


Yeah but after seeing pic's of what he can do in his zook its hard to say that he's doing something wrong.


imagine what he could do with air in his tyres :finger:

yeh im bored ......... :roll:

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:45 pm
by greg
redzook wrote:bet he has a heep of diff clearance ;)


don't forget about the other thing that you need when wheeling - traction.

perhaps having no air was to get the most traction possible?

no point having clearance without traction - though obviously the reverse of that is true also.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:38 pm
by DeWsE
redzook wrote:
bet he has a heep of diff clearance


don't forget about the other thing that you need when wheeling - traction.

perhaps having no air was to get the most traction possible?

no point having clearance without traction - though obviously the reverse of that is true also.


No what we are all forgetting is that with no air he might scratch those pretty rims.

Don't worry redzook I can relate to your illness

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:51 pm
by greg
DeWsE wrote:No what we are all forgetting is that with no air he might scratch those pretty rims.


Did you not notice the rest of the car man... i wouldn't expect that the rims of a far greater priority than the panels :)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:10 pm
by Rhett
In the article in the yank mag they say he runs suburu burfields any one know what they would have come out of? I figure they must be tough the way he drives on 35s.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:22 pm
by antt
why wreck a perfectly good coil conversion to turn it into that?????

i hope your gonna build a better cage than is in that thing, looks to be severly lacking the the diagonal bracing department :roll:

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:38 pm
by Guy
antt wrote:why wreck a perfectly good coil conversion to turn it into that?????

i hope your gonna build a better cage than is in that thing, looks to be severly lacking the the diagonal bracing department :roll:


You doubt it so .. but it has been seriously thrashed .. the whole vehicle including driver is only 800 or so Kg ... that cage has been used 100's (litterally) of times .. it still looks perfect to me ..

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:00 pm
by antt
love_mud wrote:
antt wrote:why wreck a perfectly good coil conversion to turn it into that?????

i hope your gonna build a better cage than is in that thing, looks to be severly lacking the the diagonal bracing department :roll:


You doubt it so .. but it has been seriously thrashed .. the whole vehicle including driver is only 800 or so Kg ... that cage has been used 100's (litterally) of times .. it still looks perfect to me ..


maybe so, but i bet its tweaked to hell. hard to tell from the photo's. it isn't that hard to add some diagonal bracing........oh well, its his life

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:34 am
by redzook
antt wrote:
love_mud wrote:
antt wrote:why wreck a perfectly good coil conversion to turn it into that?????

i hope your gonna build a better cage than is in that thing, looks to be severly lacking the the diagonal bracing department :roll:


You doubt it so .. but it has been seriously thrashed .. the whole vehicle including driver is only 800 or so Kg ... that cage has been used 100's (litterally) of times .. it still looks perfect to me ..


maybe so, but i bet its tweaked to hell. hard to tell from the photo's. it isn't that hard to add some diagonal bracing........oh well, its his life


he isnt wreckin the coil kit the chassis will be goin on another car

and he will start with a leafy chassis

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:14 am
by SAWZALL
redzook wrote:
uphiir wrote:Another after.....you guys know what it looks like now anyway


i dont get why he has his tyres so flat?




I'll give you a hint. A tyres tractive ability is influenced by it's "footprint". A wide footprint will give good lateral traction ie wide tyres handle better (generally). A long footprint will give good axial traction ie tall tyres better for accel/decel ie top fueller

With his pressure (vacuum) so low his ground clearance would be similar to a 30/31 tyre but with a L-O-N-G footprint for AWSUM axial traction

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:17 am
by SAWZALL
Rhett wrote:In the article in the yank mag they say he runs suburu burfields any one know what they would have come out of? I figure they must be tough the way he drives on 35s.


Trail tough axles are a commercially available version of TH axles

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:14 am
by greg
uphiir wrote:Trail tough axles are a commercially available version of TH axles


Sidewinders would be cooler though - and that would match the bling rims you'll be running :cool:

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:16 am
by greg
redzook wrote:he isnt wreckin the coil kit the chassis will be goin on another car

and he will start with a leafy chassis


Finally some clarification about what was going on - "Hooray!!!"

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:30 am
by Guy
greg wrote:
uphiir wrote:Trail tough axles are a commercially available version of TH axles


Sidewinders would be cooler though - and that would match the bling rims you'll be running :cool:


But they have a larger centre in them = less clearance for same tyre

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:33 am
by greg
love_mud wrote:But they have a larger centre in them = less clearance for same tyre


Are you sure? They look pretty well cleared with that hexagonal-ish appearance? :?