Outer Limits 4x4 Board

basketcase wrote:Claws suck balls. ET's are awsome in mud. Can comment on Silverstone.

I would go for TSL. Awsome alround tyre, kick ass on rocks, handle well in the mud and everything else you can chuck at it. Wish I could afford a set for the zuk.

Can anyone comment on the Maxxis trepadores??

All the comp trucks that are doing any good down this way are running the bias ply Treps which are an insanely agressive tyre if thats any guage.

In the radial the tread pattern isn't as agressive but should perform in a similar manner. Well priced too if you get them from MUD EMPIRE off this forum if ur in VIC. He also does swampers.

Just got prices..
$185 each for 31's
$230 for 33's

SOOOO looks like 31's and they are getting the ticket..
they look good.. but narrow... but cheep!

jonno_racing wrote:Just got prices..
$185 each for 31's
$230 for 33's

SOOOO looks like 31's and they are getting the ticket..
they look good.. but narrow... but cheep!

so what tyres are these prices for? the silverstone MT-117Ex or the Federal Couragia?

i have heard that you can get kobota tyres to fit and there not to bad, i have seen the maxxis in a comp and they worked well.

dank wrote:

basketcase wrote:Claws suck balls. ET's are awsome in mud. Can comment on Silverstone.

I would go for TSL. Awsome alround tyre, kick ass on rocks, handle well in the mud and everything else you can chuck at it. Wish I could afford a set for the zuk.

Can anyone comment on the Maxxis trepadores??

All the comp trucks that are doing any good down this way are running the bias ply Treps which are an insanely agressive tyre if thats any guage.

In the radial the tread pattern isn't as agressive but should perform in a similar manner. Well priced too if you get them from MUD EMPIRE off this forum if ur in VIC. He also does swampers.

Think I'll go see Ryano at Fourby's condidering I used to work there

How do your LTB's go?

Sam of here has a coily on radial trepadors.

atari4x4 wrote:

jonno_racing wrote:Just got prices..
$185 each for 31's
$230 for 33's

SOOOO looks like 31's and they are getting the ticket..
they look good.. but narrow... but cheep!

so what tyres are these prices for? the silverstone MT-117Ex or the Federal Couragia?

117 extreem

My swamper LTBS rock. THey are insanely good on rock and hard compacted dirt roads, not as good as MT117ex in deep gumbo mud, but still nothing to complain about AT ALL... although if I had my time again i would possibly go with the 9.5 swamper in 34, or the 35" MT117ex.

gotta get my 20v 4age engine in and sorted. taking my sweet a$$ time about it... too much snow around to get a weekend free at the moment!

Swampers, MT117s either way are my two choices for zooks that like traction down in SE OZ.

THats a good price on the MT117 extremes too.

One thing to think about is wear on roads also. As I understand silverstones and swampers can be quite soft compared to a simex, hence they are better on rocks.

You might have made up your mind, but have a look at Maxxis Mudders or Maxxis Bighorns (pretty aggressive, pretty cheap). I have 31 mudders on my zook and they are great on rocks, and great in mud even at high pressure. They are virtually the same tread pattern as BFG muddies, and are fine on road. Not to mention my guards initially cut into the side wall and lugs quite hard, but the sidewall is real tough.

dank wrote:although if I had my time again i would possibly go with the 9.5 swamper in 34, or the 35" MT117ex.

why the 9.5? do you drive alot of clay/deep mud? I thought the 10.5 was fairly narrow as is?

also what height do the 35" 117s measure in at anyone? I'd really like a true 33 x 11.5" tyre as aggresive as these...
I second the silverstones, jas' ones really hooked up when i saw them in action on his swb. and the lugs were so big you could really hear them when they didnt!!!

anyone running tubes to prevent leaky beads in mud?

In Victoria the tall skinny tyre is the way to go, cuts through all the mud, is easier to fit, easier on components and works better. In fact in most cases a tall skinny tyre is way better than a fat tyre

I thought the idea was to float above the mud, especially in a lightweight zook, not cut through it.

What if the mud is never ending? lol

we don't tend to have bottomless mud, usually it is slick muddy climbs

I run the federals on my coily, very happy with them, work real well in thick mud for a cheap tyre, clean themselves well for a not too aggresive tyre. I didnt buy them, came with the car, I will be going for the Silverstone's soon to upgrade to something more aggresive.

i think the 10.5's will be good enough thanks for the help guys!

Phil

Dee wrote:

dank wrote:although if I had my time again i would possibly go with the 9.5 swamper in 34, or the 35" MT117ex.

why the 9.5? do you drive alot of clay/deep mud? I thought the 10.5 was fairly narrow as is?

anyone running tubes to prevent leaky beads in mud?

Its all about the ratio of width to height. a 31 10.5 and 33 12.5 have very square footprints and this isn't good for directional control, and more width takes more power to push per cm2 of footprint. compared to a narrow tyre. to match say a 7.50 16 in ratio at 10.5 wide, you'd really need to be about 38" tall (and then you wouldn't have enough ground pressure to make them work, unless they had so much void they couldn't be used on a hard surface.

Additionally, a narrow tyre has more ground pressure than a wide tyre, all things being equal, and that means more bite, especially on a light car.

I've been amazed at how good my flogged 15 year old 34/9 swampers are on any hardish, slick surface like compressed snow and slick climbs- the car just hooks up and goes straight.

Steve.

actualy took a pic of the 117 extreems


they look good in real life! keep in mind they are a 31" carnt wait to pick my set up