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Tyre plugs and compressor. No spare.

love_mud wrote:Tyre plugs and compressor. No spare.

gash in tyre. then no go home.

not a big issue if u wheel with other zooks or similar rim stud pattern but as with me i am the only zook. all rest are toys and nissans and often >100k from home or a distance from a main road etc

nicbeer wrote:

love_mud wrote:Tyre plugs and compressor. No spare.

gash in tyre. then no go home.

not a big issue if u wheel with other zooks or similar rim stud pattern but as with me i am the only zook. all rest are toys and nissans and often >100k from home or a distance from a main road etc

Tyre is stuffed .. .drive on it.
Carry a tube and some tough rope .. install tube and use rope to hold the gash together well enough to get you back to civilasation.

Or carry a small spare .. why do you need a fullsize ? You only need to get home.

Do you carry spare radiator hoses ?
Heater hose's
Uni joints
Gearbox's
Driveshafts
Transfer case gears
Alternator
Brakelines (both flexiable and hard lines)
T\case mounts
Radiator
Spark plugs
Hell even a diff housing (Seen two busted hilux ones)
Diff centres
CV's

I have busted or seen busted all these things out in the bush (some more than once)..and most of these breakages are show stoppers. Oddly enough I have only ever seen one torn sidewall (mocks swamper)

If really pushed, there is no reason you can not take a tyre of a 15x8 six stud rim and put it back onto a 15x8 or 15x7 etc 5 stud rim .. not much of that other stuff is interchangeable.

nicbeer wrote:gash in tyre. then no go home.

Pack the tyre with grass and leaves, will take a while but will do the job.

Forget carrying a spare tyre.

Mobile Phone + Racv Total Cover...

Spare tyre is one thing, but this has covered me for spare gearbox, spare rear diff ring and pinion, spare inlet manifold not holding pressure, spare clutch etc...

Rather than getting home, you just have to limp to the tarmac or nearest mapped road.

All these bodgey fixes are all well and good if you wanna pack up and go home when your tyre fails, if like me sometimes you tavel with a group over an hour away to wheel then you are not going to want to pack up and leave. Hence why I carry a 32X11.5X15 bfg muddy as a spare for my 31X10.5X15 simex as they match up measurement wise, illegal technically but I'm in QLD everything on my rig is illegal lol.

GRPABT1 wrote:All these bodgey fixes are all well and good if you wanna pack up and go home when your tyre fails, if like me sometimes you tavel with a group over an hour away to wheel then you are not going to want to pack up and leave. Hence why I carry a 32X11.5X15 bfg muddy as a spare for my 31X10.5X15 simex as they match up measurement wise, illegal technically but I'm in QLD everything on my rig is illegal lol.

So what do you do if you run big tyres ... 31\32's are not what alot call "big" these days.

I think a lot of this depends on what kind of attitude you bring to your driving. For me, pretty much anything that happens in the bush is part of the experience, so reseating beads, demounting a tyre and replacing a valve stem, or patching a tyre is all part of the fun.

Sure, driving from A-B is different - I chewed up a tube on the last trip I did where I was a long way from home, and I was able to swap to a full sized spare to drive home on. If I didn't have a full sized spare, I would have weighed up patching the tube or driving home in 2WD on a smaller front tyre.

Having said that, I don't think I've ever seen a sierra destroy a tyre offroad (except Mock's critta) It's generally been bead leaks/off bead or valve stem damage.

Steve.

love_mud wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:All these bodgey fixes are all well and good if you wanna pack up and go home when your tyre fails, if like me sometimes you tavel with a group over an hour away to wheel then you are not going to want to pack up and leave. Hence why I carry a 32X11.5X15 bfg muddy as a spare for my 31X10.5X15 simex as they match up measurement wise, illegal technically but I'm in QLD everything on my rig is illegal lol.

So what do you do if you run big tyres ... 31\32's are not what alot call "big" these days.

Get a bigger spare

And you'r kidding yourself if you don't think 31" is "big" on a sierra that is driven on the street, especially up here in QLD. that's 5" over stock remember, like 37's on a pootrol. Any bigger and I'd say start doing comps.

I don't want to get into pencil comparisons or anything, but a 31 is so easy to fit and gear on a sierra, and such a cheap tyre, I don't consider it "big" at all.

I know I carry on to newbies about 31's being pretty big, and from an offroad performance point of view they are very useful, but compared to trying to carry a Q78 as a spare....

It's also my minimum cutoff for what you'd want for a hard trip in vic.

In any case, 31's are pretty easy to work with, even as a spare. (although a 6.00X16 or 7.00X16 on a 4.5" rim still makes a better spare for a car with 31's on 7" rims.)

I think once rims go to 8" and tyres to 12.5 carrying a full width spare becomes a PITA.

Steve.

Yeah I feel you Steve I was meaning more from a useable tyre point of view not spare carrying. I wouldn't even risk anything over 32" on the roads up here, but one day a 37" tyred trailer queen might reside in my driveway.