Outer Limits 4x4 Board

maccasMQ wrote:once you have a tyre like pedes, you think any other tyre like a claw or mtz or even as low as a bfg muddy, are a total waste of time if you want to get anywhere. bfg muddies should be a road tyre, they suk in mud. Trepadores are provong to be pretty good too very similar to a pede, if not better.

every one has their opinion, but i disagree.

ive got bfg mudds and they are great. never let me down. not sayin they are better than pedes or treps at all but they arent the worst.

thanx, have done body lifts before so no drama's there. will fit the 35's and see how she goes. have sourced a set of second hand 35 baja claws for a decent price, just waiting for an email to finalise things...wahooo

Hello again. Sorry for the delay. I'm at work so I thought I should do something that resembles working for a while.
Yes the 4.6 ratios are standard from a 2.8. They are not exact but with such a small marjin of error, I don't care.
I just used alloy packing plates on my standard bump stops. Took one of my bump stops into the local machinist to take the measurements from and a carton of Crownies later, tada! the bump stops have been extended 30mm.
Hard to get photos at work but I'll get them ASAP
Cheers
Dave

thanks Dave, thats much appreciated

dont_follow_me wrote:thanks muddytroll, mine has the same 4 inch lift so your info is greatly appreciated. I dot mind having to cut the guards a bit to get them the flex without rubbing. you mention longer bump stops, where did you get them from?

what ratio are the diffs in the 2.8's

and, lastly, would you have a pic of your truck so I could see what the whole shebang looks like, pretty tuff I reckon

This is my rig with 4" springs only, running 35" tyres with no major guard cutting.
Front is fine without mudflaps fitted.
This is rear rub marks, only rub when driven hard off-road. (no damage to tyre's
35x12.5 / 15 tyres on cruiser offset 15x8's



I trimed with tin cutters on both sides where the red Circle is




As a play tyre I highly recommend simex ET's (but prob out of your price spec's)
I did run Cooper stt's as my previous tyre and was very happy (still my easy trip tyre's).

Cheers Chris

whitemav, would you have a pic of the truck with the tyres etc in the pic so I can see how they sit with the 4 inch lift?

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Only got one with the slightly larger simex on.


Found an old one with the coopers

Nice work Whitemav,

Your rig looks the Shiz. One day when mine grows up, it might look like that!

Cheers, Dano.

dont_follow_me wrote:who has 35's on their GQ??

I do.

























I have some Simex ET's, 35x10.5R15 on 15x8 King Rims. King rims are the shit, so are the ET's. I went for a skinnier tyre to save me some headaches and real estate in my wheel arches. The only places i have rubbing issues was on the factory mud flaps, front bumper bar edges, and possibly the back of the rear arches.

I'm prepared to let the tyres do their own guard cutting/bending.

Coxy

q_ship wrote:

maccasMQ wrote:once you have a tyre like pedes, you think any other tyre like a claw or mtz or even as low as a bfg muddy, are a total waste of time if you want to get anywhere. bfg muddies should be a road tyre, they suk in mud. Trepadores are provong to be pretty good too very similar to a pede, if not better.

every one has their opinion, but i disagree.

ive got bfg mudds and they are great. never let me down. not sayin they are better than pedes or treps at all but they arent the worst.

if they havent let you down yet, then you cant be driving much hard stuff? I dont see comp guys running them.....

Truck looks great mate. Don't know if anyone has mention but you can run a 10 mm spacer on the front control arms...at the chassis end. Don't know the technical name for it. About $50 pre-made. Pushes the dif just far enough to avoid any rubbing on the rear of the front guards.

I was running 35's without any lift on mine as i got a good deal prematurly on some tyres. I clearly couldn't go 4x4ing but she drove on the road after a touch of trimming & removal of front guards. Once 3inch lift went in I was out 4x4ing & was good. The odd rub but she did good.

I now have 37's on mine with a 4inch lift. Once again I would say that 4x4ing is out of the question but is fine on road for the time being.

One more thing FYI. MTZ's have a squarer/wider tread pattern than the MTR's...which round out on the edges much more . If anyone considers larger tyres on minimal lift then the MTR's will tuck past guards on full lock better & less chassis rub. I've hade both type on my GQ.

Just a bit of info you guys might find interresting.

Cheers

mine

cm, are they the Mickey Thompson baja claws in 35 inch?

maccasMQ wrote:

q_ship wrote:

maccasMQ wrote:once you have a tyre like pedes, you think any other tyre like a claw or mtz or even as low as a bfg muddy, are a total waste of time if you want to get anywhere. bfg muddies should be a road tyre, they suk in mud. Trepadores are provong to be pretty good too very similar to a pede, if not better.

every one has their opinion, but i disagree.

ive got bfg mudds and they are great. never let me down. not sayin they are better than pedes or treps at all but they arent the worst.

if they havent let you down yet, then you cant be driving much hard stuff? I dont see comp guys running them.....

X2

i got bf muds and hate them with a passion the only time they havent let me down was in the dry on rocks..

every time i go in mucd 1 if not 2 of the beads get mud in them.. spent hundreds on bead cleaning..

macneil wrote:
every time i go in mucd 1 if not 2 of the beads get mud in them.. spent hundreds on bead cleaning..

I am having the same problems with my BFG's, especially the front tyres seem to be getting mud in the beads and loosing about 20psi a week

dont_follow_me wrote:cm, are they the Mickey Thompson baja claws in 35 inch?

Mudzilla's i'd say by the looks of the side biters and uniform chevron pattern.

dano80 wrote:Hey Curly, have you any pics of your 3" lifted rig with 35's, i'm currently running 33's and 3" lift, and would like to go bigger......just not too sure. GQ or GU????

Oh yes.....its the missus daily driver.

Sorry about the hi-jack of topic.

Cheers,
Dano.

Gq

coxy321 wrote:

dont_follow_me wrote:cm, are they the Mickey Thompson baja claws in 35 inch?

Mudzilla's i'd say by the looks of the side biters and uniform chevron pattern.

coxy was right they are maxxis mudzillas

dont_follow_me wrote:

macneil wrote:
every time i go in mucd 1 if not 2 of the beads get mud in them.. spent hundreds on bead cleaning..

I am having the same problems with my BFG's, especially the front tyres seem to be getting mud in the beads and loosing about 20psi a week

Me too on my old ones. They really need tubes or you have to get beads cleaned after every trip in the mud.

I've just fitted a set of 315/75r16 cooper STT's on 16x8 alloys.
The diff gears have been changed to 4.6's so back to relativelt stock gearing.
Th patrol is now a play thing and is rarely driven unless offroad but even when it was a daily driver I only had 33" MT/R's no extra set of 'road' tyres. I reckon swappin 'em over that often will shag ur nuts and studs sooner rather than later.

Last weekend I hit the rocks at Rover park and left them at highway pressure just to test them and was impressed.
They did everything I asked them too with little difficulty.
Next time I'll let 'em down and see how they go.

I picked up a set of 35x2.5x15 claws on cruiser offset 15x8 sunnies and got them fitted to the GQ today. Dont they make the 33's look small !

The front mudflaps are goin to have to go, they rub on lock and will have to flex it up to see how the rears go. There is a slight rub mark inside the drivers side rear wheel tub from the 33's so I dare say the 35's may rub in the same spot, but will wait and see.

thanks for the pics etc, much appreciated

wll get a pic up for ya soon

what pressures are you guys running in the 35 inch claws?

sidewall says max of 35psi at full load so how much would I need just for getting around without much weight.

I am particulary interested in hearing from GQ owners with claws as it may be dependant on vehicle weight (ie sierra Vs patrol would be quite different pressures)

I ran about 36-40psi on road, and air down to 20 for general off-raod/gravel roads. 15 for mud etc.

Mine only get used on the bitumen for the 300km odd to where we're going wheeling, then its all low pressure from there.

i run mine on the road when i cant be assed taking them off they weigh too much, anyhow, i tend to leave them around 38 ish if im empty, but once the tyres look a little un level i drop it back to 32 to eaven the claw out, and as far as bush work goes 18 psi is the start, and i go down from there

2 inch EFS kit and Silvertone Xtremes. Works well.

that looks higher than 2inch .....what size are those silverstones...are they the 35x10.5's

dont_follow_me wrote:that looks higher than 2inch .....what size are those silverstones...are they the 35x10.5's

Its 2" coils. The original rubber locator things had perished, so i replaced them with 15mm spacers, so now it has settled back to ~2". They are 35x11.5x15's. I'd have liked to get 10.5's but they don't make these tyres in a 35x10.5x15.

thanks mate, nice looking truck

adriand82 wrote: They are 35x11.5x15's. I'd have liked to get 10.5's but they don't make these tyres in a 35x10.5x15.

Are you sure???

Does that my set a collectors items??

coxy321 wrote:

adriand82 wrote: They are 35x11.5x15's. I'd have liked to get 10.5's but they don't make these tyres in a 35x10.5x15.

Are you sure???

Does that my set a collectors items??

I couldn't order them and the Silverstone website also indicates this (http://www.silverstone.com.my/#1224158822411). How old are your tyres? Perhaps that size was discontinued?