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MyGQ can please post some before and after flex pics.

MyGQ wrote:Spoke to Glenn Dobbin (sounds like a very nice guy on the phone actually) and well he seems to think it will give my car some pretty good flex.

He also is going to give me the Lock out option to lock the X-Link out for on road use, so we will see just how good the old gal goes after the X-link install

Have a travel ramp at a mates shop i plan to put it up before and after to see just how well it goes. lets hope its more stable in the bush

Don't forget the before and after pics

One of my mates has fitted a X-link to his shorty at the end of last year,while it does flex pretty well IMO the best gain is the better balance between front and rear axles.when driving over a log at a angle say,the body is less inclinded to move with the axle.all springs are captive at full flex,could get much more with drop out cones/longer shocks etc.rides very nice on rough river beds which we have lots of in NZ
















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Shane

Clarkie wrote:One of my mates has fitted a X-link to his shorty at the end of last year,while it does flex pretty well IMO the best gain is the better balance between front and rear axles.when driving over a log at a angle say,the body is less inclinded to move with the axle.all springs are captive at full flex,could get much more with drop out cones/longer shocks etc.rides very nice on rough river beds which we have lots of in NZ


Cant get pics to come up so just go to link below

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 18&t=13238

Shane

Did a trip up Worsleys a few weeks ago with the ChCh club and he was there with his truck Shane. On road you could definitely see the truck tilting on corners...looked spooky!

Shane, any chance of getting the pics up on the ORE site?

KIWI wrote:Shane, any chance of getting the pics up on the ORE site?

If you click on the link above it takes you to a thread from ORE.

Clarkie wrote:If you click on the link above it takes you to a thread from ORE.

Was just hoping you may have uploaded the latest pics there, but not yet

twodiffs wrote:

Clarkie wrote:One of my mates has fitted a X-link to his shorty at the end of last year,while it does flex pretty well IMO the best gain is the better balance between front and rear axles.when driving over a log at a angle say,the body is less inclinded to move with the axle.all springs are captive at full flex,could get much more with drop out cones/longer shocks etc.rides very nice on rough river beds which we have lots of in NZ


Cant get pics to come up so just go to link below

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 18&t=13238

Shane

Did a trip up Worsleys a few weeks ago with the ChCh club and he was there with his truck Shane. On road you could definitely see the truck tilting on corners...looked spooky!

Are yes,I remember now I spoke to you a few times when pulling that prado out(small world)

Tony doesnt have a lock out pin on his at this stage,he drives pretty quite on road so hasnt been a problem,body roll wise.

Shane,
the pics above, I take it they were just the originals on the site, and not later pics of it being used?

I sure will post some pics when i get them, going to take the truck over and put it up the ramp tomorrow, will get before and after shots

Clarkie wrote:

twodiffs wrote:

Clarkie wrote:One of my mates has fitted a X-link to his shorty at the end of last year,while it does flex pretty well IMO the best gain is the better balance between front and rear axles.when driving over a log at a angle say,the body is less inclinded to move with the axle.all springs are captive at full flex,could get much more with drop out cones/longer shocks etc.rides very nice on rough river beds which we have lots of in NZ


Cant get pics to come up so just go to link below

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 18&t=13238

Shane

Did a trip up Worsleys a few weeks ago with the ChCh club and he was there with his truck Shane. On road you could definitely see the truck tilting on corners...looked spooky!

Are yes,I remember now I spoke to you a few times when pulling that prado out(small world)

Tony doesnt have a lock out pin on his at this stage,he drives pretty quite on road so hasnt been a problem,body roll wise.

Yep...another Toyota on the rope behind the Nissan..

What were you driving??

Shane should have been in a LWB Safari?

KIWI wrote:Shane should have been in a LWB Safari?

Correct,green LWB Hi roof Hippo(lift,35's,DIY turbo rest is how it came from factory).I didnt have it with me up worsley.







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Anyone know the if rego will hammer you for having x-link?

chunks wrote:Anyone know the if rego will hammer you for having x-link?

not if you know the right ppl

Well i am please to say that i now have installed a X-Link along with the lock out pin on my GQ.

Don't have the cam with me here to i can't upload the pics but the difference was incredible.

the articulation is so much better the car doesn't want to lean as much anymore on flex, it feels alot more stable, its impressive to say the least.

We did travel ramp tests before and after which i will get pics for you soon but here are the results

1790mm before the X-link

1990mm after X-link.

This is using the 7" king Springs, and Dobbinson 80 series rear shocks in the front of the GQ. i have Road Train truck shocks in the rear allowing more travel on the rear.

Not only did it travel further up the ramp but the front right hand wheel was tucked so far up in the front guard it was almost touching the roof, so am very happy with the results to say the least so far.

Witht he lock out pin installed, on-road without Sway bars it feels quite nice, no worries so far, haven't had it up to 100K's yet but will get there soon.

That sounds like a good result, look forward to seeing some pics later .

MyGQ wrote:

the articulation is so much better the car doesn't want to lean as much anymore on flex, it feels alot more stable, its impressive to say the least.

We did travel ramp tests before and after which i will get pics for you soon but here are the results

1790mm before the X-link

1990mm after X-link.

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Whats the measurements of?
How far you got up the ramp?
What angle is ramp?

Clarkie wrote:
Whats the measurements of?
How far you got up the ramp?
What angle is ramp?

it was from the start of ramp to the center of the front hub.

it was 1790 before and 1990 after the xlink

the ramp is a 23 degree angle, its the same setup as the Big Balls ramp

we want pic's cam !!

well fitted my X-link last night, so happy with it.
though i also fitted some flexy coils as well. front end works a treat

I like the principal of the idea, and have seen them at work at various comps, however I'm concerned about the increase of un-sprung weight which is already huge when running GQ/GU diffs

Breaker Brother wrote:I like the principal of the idea, and have seen them at work at various comps, however I'm concerned about the increase of un-sprung weight which is already huge when running GQ/GU diffs

Does the weight of larger tires and wheels concern you?
i think the benefit out weighs the extra weight

Anyone else noticed these bending your control arm, as if it's putting a horizontal force on them? well it is... The xlink is mounted centrally, so when it moves, it moves in a radius, making the radius arm bend inwards at the bush on the x-link, This in turn translates into the whole arm.
Someone take pictures of your radius arms looking straight down them, when it's flexed up and you will see what I mean.
Here's a picture that shows the bend, although it's hard to distinguish between the curve in the control arm and bend.



Feel free to tell me if I'm wrong or anything. It was pointed out to me once and ever since then, I notice it on every vehicle with the x-link.

Yeah the deflection is very bad I have the first cross link and the trailing arms I have are longer and made out of bizaloy and the bend they get is disturbing the bushes take a huge amount of side loading I would hate to see how the cast arms put up with this loading

I wonder if this is where the story of the bent Big O arms comes from?

Dazza

azzad wrote:I wonder if this is where the story of the bent Big O arms comes from?

Dazza

Mine cop a serious hiding and they have not broken. I have seen the twist they is being refered to but most chassis, control arms etc would and do flex a little. If it didn't they would crack. I'm running slotted Bushes as well so this would have to help prevent a fair bit of the flexing.

Here is a pic of the same 4wd with the X-Link, 14 inch coil overs and 42s flexed up. It still has a little to go but the arms aren't flexing much at all. They flex a little and thats about it.



As Chad mentioned the cast factory arms may be a little scarey if flexed to much as they usually just bend and don't actually go back to shape if pushed to hard.

Cheers Mick.

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As Chad mentioned the cast factory arms may be a little scarey if flexed to much as they usually just bend and don't actually go back to shape if pushed to hard.

Cheers Mick.[/quote]

don't say that im running the stock arms

Well its been a while since i have posted here but i finally got some good pics of the patrol under flex


This is from the front, not a huge ditch but this really shows how well it can flex up


From the drivers side, sorry bit blurry.


Look at the left wheel, now thats impressive


Looking at the rear left its still not off the ground but getting close


Look how far the lock out pin had moved from the lock out cylinder on the diff, thats a huge amount of movement


Lastly a bit closer view of the rear left wheel


Needless to day its not bad, next i need some adjustable upper arms and maybe do a long arm kit to it, so far so good, lets see if we can get from good to great.

gotta be happy with that looks good i'v just brought a xlink now im hanging to get in and get some flex