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Take a creepy off the car and take a pic of it side by side with a simex (if you still have them)

bogged wrote:

Shadow wrote:this is pretty much false advertising.

They should be labeling them as 35's. They are obviously just doing it to scam people.

bit harsh.
this bloke above you has the right size.

Bit harsh?

Anyone that sells a product thats 35" as 37" is bordering on fraud.

Why label them 37 when they are 35?

Was it a mistake? If so, the OP should get a full new set and maxxis will want the tyres back so they can figure out where THIER labellibng mistake was made.

I have heard in numerous threads that tyre sizes vary, but to call a 35" tyre a 37" is by definition false advertising, and borderline fraud.

DAMKIA wrote:

AUSDOG wrote:thats hurtn! i'm about to buy a set of 37'' creepys. what width rim are you running?

Rim width will not affect the fact that the carcass diameter is only 34-35"

my 35" on 10" rim are smaller than the same tyre on my 8" rim . the rims do make a difference to the overall height , (mine are claws ) just as the 10" rim mounted tyres sit wider than the ones mounted on the 8" rim

cheers Jai

blade 929 wrote:

DAMKIA wrote:

AUSDOG wrote:thats hurtn! i'm about to buy a set of 37'' creepys. what width rim are you running?

Rim width will not affect the fact that the carcass diameter is only 34-35"

my 35" on 10" rim are smaller than the same tyre on my 8" rim . the rims do make a difference to the overall height , (mine are claws ) just as the 10" rim mounted tyres sit wider than the ones mounted on the 8" rim

cheers Jai

they cant change the length of the belts in the tread, therefore they have no bearing on the tyre size.

If your belts could stretch at all, the tyre would explode at 100km/hr.

Has anyone measured a set of Trepadores?

realy this is bull shyt does any one know how to contact maxxis in australia.

there should be a thread on tyres that dont size correctly in the bible

my mudzillas are undersize as well. Bit annoying...il have to buy the 37's to get a true 35

Shadow wrote:

blade 929 wrote:

DAMKIA wrote:

AUSDOG wrote:thats hurtn! i'm about to buy a set of 37'' creepys. what width rim are you running?

Rim width will not affect the fact that the carcass diameter is only 34-35"

my 35" on 10" rim are smaller than the same tyre on my 8" rim . the rims do make a difference to the overall height , (mine are claws ) just as the 10" rim mounted tyres sit wider than the ones mounted on the 8" rim

cheers Jai

they cant change the length of the belts in the tread, therefore they have no bearing on the tyre size.

If your belts could stretch at all, the tyre would explode at 100km/hr.

come around to my house than professor and show me how my tape changes its own measurements than

my creepy's measure in at 36.6... close enough for me.

Shadow wrote:

blade 929 wrote:

DAMKIA wrote:

AUSDOG wrote:thats hurtn! i'm about to buy a set of 37'' creepys. what width rim are you running?

Rim width will not affect the fact that the carcass diameter is only 34-35"

my 35" on 10" rim are smaller than the same tyre on my 8" rim . the rims do make a difference to the overall height , (mine are claws ) just as the 10" rim mounted tyres sit wider than the ones mounted on the 8" rim

cheers Jai

they cant change the length of the belts in the tread, therefore they have no bearing on the tyre size.

If your belts could stretch at all, the tyre would explode at 100km/hr.

I suppose this only applies to radials...

its a joke im going to measure my tires tomorra

claws 35x12.5x15 on 10" rims results coming...
simex 35x12.5x15 on 8"rims results coming...

I guess it depends on where and how you measure them. In the first pic it looks like you are only measuring to the start of the side tread and not the big lug which is in line with the rest of the tread, where as with the simex youve take it from the end of the big lug.
As someone said before, you will need to measure them side by side to see the difference.

at least the widths seem to measure right from what ive seen

when buying tyres have a look at the overall sizes some are smaller and some are bigger

if it makes you feel any better, my 38" swampers only measure a 37.5"

Shadow wrote:
Anyone that sells a product thats 35" as 37" is bordering on fraud.

Why label them 37 when they are 35?

I have heard in numerous threads that tyre sizes vary, but to call a 35" tyre a 37" is by definition false advertising, and borderline fraud.

It would be fruad if every 37 measured as 35s but thats not the case as few members 37s measured are 37s. There might be a small batched that were label wrong.

SIM79 wrote:

Shadow wrote:
Anyone that sells a product thats 35" as 37" is bordering on fraud.

Why label them 37 when they are 35?

I have heard in numerous threads that tyre sizes vary, but to call a 35" tyre a 37" is by definition false advertising, and borderline fraud.

It would be fruad if every 37 measured as 35s but thats not the case as few members 37s measured are 37s. There might be a small batched that were label wrong.

in which case, his tyres should be replaced wouldnt you agree?

my tyres measure as follows

35x12.5x15 radial trepadores = 34.75 inches
35x12.5x15 creepy crawlers = 34.5 inches
35x12.5x15 bfg muds = 34.6 inches

Just measured my creepys, from the tip of the larger lugs on my 37" creepys is 35", but to the tip of the crowning centre section they are about 36.788654399"

Shadow wrote:

SIM79 wrote:

Shadow wrote:
Anyone that sells a product thats 35" as 37" is bordering on fraud.

Why label them 37 when they are 35?

I have heard in numerous threads that tyre sizes vary, but to call a 35" tyre a 37" is by definition false advertising, and borderline fraud.

It would be fruad if every 37 measured as 35s but thats not the case as few members 37s measured are 37s. There might be a small batched that were label wrong.

in which case, his tyres should be replaced wouldnt you agree?

Yes

ill measure my 37s creepys tomorro and get back to you on a height

what pressure did you have in the tyres when measured

rob

how is everyone measuring them? on the vehicle or off?

To measure tires correctly, you need a special tool, its like a large set of verniers

As said, measuring them that way is not 100% accurate, but then, it shouldnt be 2inches out either.

If some measure 36.9203023984023984092384023984039284 then its hard to complain

Tires do change size on rims, plenty of threads saying that tires are 'crowning'. Narrow rims cause the tires to crown eg pull in the sides, causing the center to rise. Check Johns Maxxis Creepys how the tread isnt flat across them.


Get a bike tire off a rim, and push the beads together the tread will deform a little. you can try it with a 4b tire, but they maybe too strong for you to flex.

Take the wheel off the truck. Pump itto the recomended pressure (about 25 to 30psi) then measure it.
To measure it lay it flat of th ground, push it up to a wall and then place straight edge parrallel with the wall touching the tyrein the centre of the tread.
Now measure from the wall to the straight edge.
I bet if you all do this the tyres will still be under size but it will be a lot closer.
You can not measue it on a vehicle as the load on the tyre will compress it some depending on pressure and load.
So unless you have taken the wheel off the truck to measure it then your measurement isn't acurate and will be small. The phot's above that should the tape by the lugs are a waste of time and all they should is the side wall hieght.

hi

i measured my 37 creepys and is come in at 910mm at 30 psi

900 / 25 = 36.4 inches

close but not a 37



rob

75 cruser wrote:hi

i measured my 37 creepys and is come in at 910mm at 30 psi

900 / 25 = 36.4 inches

close but not a 37



rob

1" = 25.4 mm

910/25.4 = 35.8"

matto wrote:i took a measurement today of my tyres because i couldn't tell the difference between my new 37" maxxis creepys and my old 35" simex.
The maxxis are only 35's Whats with that?

I tried to measure my tyres, but I couldn't get my girlfriend to lie on the grass holding her sewing tape like you did. Good work.

My 40" Baja Claws are exactly the same height as my 42" Iroks were. I don't know which tyre is correct size though.

Wendle wrote:

matto wrote:
I tried to measure my tyres, but I couldn't get my girlfriend to lie on the grass holding her sewing tape like you did. Good work.

Ahh - good point.

Sure it isn't one of those tapes made for fat chicks??? So they can say "I only have a 35" waist!"

Of course guys opt for the tape that overestimates - so they can brag about the size of their .... (tyres)

ISUZUROVER wrote:

75 cruser wrote:hi

i measured my 37 creepys and is come in at 910mm at 30 psi

900 / 25 = 36.4 inches

close but not a 37



rob

1" = 25.4 mm

910/25.4 = 35.8"

i was wondering that too

i roughly measured my 38s and it was about 980mm (very rough measurement) from top to bottom

Wendle wrote:
My 40" Baja Claws are exactly the same height as my 42" Iroks were. I don't know which tyre is correct size though.

the iroks would be closer to the measurement i think....