Outer Limits 4x4 Board

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Yeah it's pretty much just his I don't like

And I'll be the first to admit my junk is carp.

And I'll keep saying it till you realise, your rig is too high and doesn't flex enough to justify your drop shackles.

As an example I like Liams rig on similar width diffs as yours, similar size tyres and also with drop shackles.[/quote]
Well please accept my appologies, and please rest when you sleep tonight knowning that i will be working away in my shed to make my suzuki up to your standard mate.. im sorry. But by the sounds of your vehicle, anytime you wanna come offroad with me, i would love to show you who's the superiour vehicle would be

THIS IS NOT A PISSING CONTEST. Help the guy with his question, or dont post. If Ridge wants to know why drop shackles are not popular he can search, as i posted back on the first page.

lay80n wrote: Search on it.
Basically they can produce unloading issues, roll stiffness issues (if used at one end only) and the extra droop you get often doesnt equate to traction as there is little weight on the wheel.


Layto.....

If you want to argue over who has the bigger pencil or whatever, take it elsewhere ladies.

Layto....

I am not buying in to the get it up there V grpabt1 debate, but I will add this to 11_evl's comments:

The leverage point is a good one. In a very long and technical thread on the land rover page (I think) years ago, Daddylonglegs, who runs drop shackles and a Z box on the front spring mount, has made the leverage factor a massive element of his rear suspension.

However, the whole car is built to work on that principle, runs flat single leaf rear leaves, weighs over 2 tonnes, and has massively heavy diffs.

A SPOA sierra is a terrible candidate for building leverage. With light diffs, light weight, severe weight transfer, and in a spoa application, the need for high spring rates to control axlewrap, there's going to be little force applied to the drooped wheel, especially on the front when climbing.

For the record, I don't see the point in drop shackles and would never spend any time or money trying to make them work, as I think that money is better spent in other areas.

Steve.

Ridge wrote:why do most people on this forum hate drop shackles?

Ive seen a MQ pootrol rip the hanger out of the chasie using wackyshackles, I dont know if this is a common problem or not but it was enough to put me off.