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peat4x4 wrote:thats wit tyres on, i was planning on gettin 1.5" spacers.. i only tried them on the back and measure the bore for the front..

im soo upset about the whole situation, now that its happened i just want the wheels to fit!!

every thing about it upsets me.. i've planned to use the governments $900 cash bonus thing to put towards suspension... will this help in any way? or should i put it towards somerthing else? (different rims isnt an option!!!) my stubborn-ness and determination has ruled that out (also that i guess im a bit of a fool for not just giving in!!)

If its leaf sprung then new suspension wont help unless you plan on replacing the leaves with coils which will cost more then $900. New rims are about the easiest option, suck it up, cut your losses and take it as a life lesson

yeah your probably right!! but i think im too stubborn..
if i give in i'll feel like i let the wanka at the wheel shop win

go back to the shop and nicely suggest a small claim tribunal case unless they come up with a useable solution to your problem.
because they are "experts" in this field they have a responsiblity to provide you with the correct info and product. I'd bet you a weeks wage if it all went down as you say and you presented it properly you'd win in small claims.
cheers andrew

ajsr wrote:go back to the shop and nicely suggest a small claim tribunal case unless they come up with a useable solution to your problem.
because they are "experts" in this field they have a responsiblity to provide you with the correct info and product. I'd bet you a weeks wage if it all went down as you say and you presented it properly you'd win in small claims.
cheers andrew

yeah i know, but court is a lot more expensive and too much of a srew around to warrant actually doing it!!

small claims is cheap
I belive there is another type that only costs around $ 35 to have a case heard.Do some checking or go in to the tyre store and bluff

what did these rims cost and what were they supposed to fit???

the rims cost 1100 and tyes cost me 900 and then gettin them drilled cost $500.
$2500 all up..

originally they were multi stud... 5/114 and 5/120. now there 5/139.7

well if you dont want small claims they are still multi fit sell them and call it a lesson.I feel for you mate but that may be your best bet .

they've been drilled and bored to "make them fit my car"

now there only 5/139.7..

peat4x4 wrote:the rims cost 1100 and tyes cost me 900 and then gettin them drilled cost $500.
$2500 all up..

originally they were multi stud... 5/114 and 5/120. now there 5/139.7

Damn dude. I'd definitely be considering legal action. If that doesn't work, put them on ebay, swallow your pride and start again.

We've all bought the wrong part before and it blows but the more you modify shit to get them to fit, the more it will end up costing you, in either time, money or both. Just do what you have to to resolve the situation as quickly and cheaply as possible.

If they have been drilled to suit a sierra, they will also fit Ford f100s and others too IIRC, so you should be able to move them.




If you do get 22s on your sierra, post photos so I can laugh at your ricer arse. j/k

v840 wrote:

peat4x4 wrote:the rims cost 1100 and tyes cost me 900 and then gettin them drilled cost $500.
$2500 all up..

originally they were multi stud... 5/114 and 5/120. now there 5/139.7

Damn dude. I'd definitely be considering legal action. If that doesn't work, put them on ebay, swallow your pride and start again.

We've all bought the wrong part before and it blows but the more you modify shit to get them to fit, the more it will end up costing you, in either time, money or both. Just do what you have to to resolve the situation as quickly and cheaply as possible.




If you do get 22s on your sierra, post photos so I can laugh at your ricer arse. j/k

lol dont worry mate, humour is the point of the project!!


i think the advice of swallowing my pride is the right advice!! but if you have ever met a more stubborn person than me i'd be surprised!! lol

i guess ill sleep on a few things and see what i come up with!! who knows, another zook might be in the classifieds section REAL soon!!

i've always wanted a datsun 1600 ute!! lol or a mighty boy!! doesnt help om 6'2" though lol

matches and gas

mrRocky wrote:matches and gas

x2 i got pissed off just reading this.

fit for purpose? no. then full refund. simple

Go and stand outside their shop with a big sign. They won't want the bad publicity and hopefully would help you out quick

dez82 wrote:Go and stand outside their shop with a big sign. They won't want the bad publicity and hopefully would help you out quick

A sign saying what? "Im young and don't know how to do research before i fork out $2500"?

I do feel sorry for ya man, but ya really should have at least done a quick search for things like wheel offsets. You bought 45 offset wheels? im assuming that is positive 45? (like flat dinner plate alloys?) when negative 45 would have been more like it for those width wheels?

Everything about those wheels was wrong. Wrong offset, wrong bore, wrong stud pattern, wrong diameter.

Now sell those wheels and buy some REAL wheels and tyres, with more sidewall height than rim diameter!

Mike

mike_nofx wrote:

dez82 wrote:Go and stand outside their shop with a big sign. They won't want the bad publicity and hopefully would help you out quick

A sign saying what? "Im young and don't know how to do research before i fork out $2500"?

I do feel sorry for ya man, but ya really should have at least done a quick search for things like wheel offsets. You bought 45 offset wheels? im assuming that is positive 45? (like flat dinner plate alloys?) when negative 45 would have been more like it for those width wheels?

Everything about those wheels was wrong. Wrong offset, wrong bore, wrong stud pattern, wrong diameter.

Now sell those wheels and buy some REAL wheels and tyres, with more sidewall height than rim diameter!

Mike

I disagree, for that amount of money, the shop should have spent the time to research and actually measure up and make sure it would all fit, if they said they would make them fit a suzuki sierra, then it is on theyre heads to do a proper job. If he got it done cheap by them then that would be another story.
Sitting outside the shop does work, a mate has done it successfully, but if you do go ahead and do it, have a mate with you incase the asshats decide to get violent (which is unlikely), and dont rant on and swear, just tell the potential customers factually what they did and how bad theyre workmanship was.

did they hit on full lock? or just when you placed the wheel over the hub while the steering was straight?

joeblow wrote:did they hit on full lock? or just when you placed the wheel over the hub while the steering was straight?

i tried the back first, they hit the leaf springs and then i cracked the shits and didnt bother tryin the front, jus measured the bore holes.

If they're hitting the back springs without even being close to bolting on then you've got buckleys and none chance of getting them to fit. You'll need uber wides spacers to be able to steer the thing and then being 9.5" wide rims you'll be sticking waaaay out the gaurds and you'll have to lower your bump stops by heaps or cut your gaurds alot so as not to carve up you're new licorice strips.

if you went to the shop and asked for rims to fit a sierra and that
is what they sold you, go to a lawyer. there are lots off laws that
protect consumers in these types of situations, the quicker you act the better.

make sure that there are plenty of people in the shop and ask to see the manager.

explain your story and ask him what he is going to do about it. if he says anything other than ill arrange for an exchange or full refund. you should start talking louder about dodgy merchandise and bad customer service (do not swear stay calm). this will get the attention of everyone else in the shop. if he still isnt going to do anything threaten to take your story to consumer affairs.

i have done the same thing over a faulty tv and i got my cash back when other customers realized what was going on and started to leave the shop.

its crazy that the tyre shop even thought they would fit on. dont just take this lying down , you have to do something mate.
by the way can you run they flipped around lol then they might fit.

There are a lot of legal "if's" here.

Peat4x4 your first step in this case would be to ring Consumer Affairs Victoria (i'm assuming you bought them in Melbourne somewhere) on 1300 55 81 81 and have a chat to them. Tell them exactly what happened, don't hide anything. They will be able to say weather you have a case or not and I think it should be free.

I'm not a legal expert, but from what I understand, IF you mentioned that these were to go onto a Suzuki Sierra 4x4 they should have tried to stop you, and if they didn't then you have a strong case. If on the other hand you did not mention what vehicle they were for, or if you insisted on buying them regardless of their advice then your case is weak.

But ring CAV first

Brenton wrote:its crazy that the tyre shop even thought they would fit on. dont just take this lying down , you have to do something mate.
by the way can you run they flipped around lol then they might fit.

Searching for wheel spacers, found a semi recent thread and got caught up in the hype, posted without realising that this has all probably been resolved and no longer relevant?

Am I close or way off?

Hey Peat4x4, how did you go with this?

Its a sorry read and partially due to your own naivity ':roll:' ,however... I hate seeing people like you taken advantage of.

Your story seems pretty straightforward, why would anybody knowingly pay $2500 for wheels/tyres that cannot be fitted to their car? You obviously expected them to fit on the advice provided by the staff in the shop, they are supposed to know which combinations will work...right? Push the problem back at them, you should not have to try and hack a solution.

Hopefully this will help:
Businesses need to comply with the trade practices act. There are sections there covering 'misleading or deceptive conduct', Unconscionable conduct', 'false or misleading representations'.... and i'm sure there are guidelines for 'saleable goods - needing to be fit for purchase etc'. Basically from your story it appears there have been a number of breaches of the act by the supplier of your wheels. You should be pushing them for either a refund - OR - to supply you with the correct size wheels and tyres for your zuki....ie if you dont want drama, no more than 15 or 16"!!

Hope you have already gone down this path, if you havent - write down all the details, record all the dates and who spoke to whom, then contact the ACCC on 1300 302 502. Stick with your guns and they should be able to assist, and if not they will be able to direct you to someone who can.
Good luck with it.