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i run 35x12.5x17
they are awsome off and on road. not the best in tacky clay tho they clag up easy.
awsome on road, handle better than the maxxis bravos i had one and they were 32"

Jacked wrote: With half worn 33's on a 60 up at alex/big river we where slipping and sliding everywhere, tyres wouldnt clear the muddy claggy type stuff.
The back end was really trying to overtake the front goin down hills/over washouts. slipped sideways like claws but now strait line grip either. We didnt air down though

Why the hell would you not air down in conditions like that?!?!?!?
CRAZY!

Just had these fitted to the GU. Have only done the 400km blacktop drive home but first impression is that the radio volume needs to go up a couple of notches compared to the FC2s.
Offroad thoughts to follow.....

Mine have been going quite well now.

They do not like being driven on bitumen aired down (18psi), there is a lot of sidewall flex and roll at that pressure.

Great tyre! Ive done 10, 000km on them now and very happy. Better grip on the black top then the old copper at's! Off road cant fault them. I found the first 7000km they wore quite quick. But after they have hardend up they are great! Road noise is good for a MT. Other then that i will be recommanding them to anyone who ask.

May I ask a ball park figure for 305/16's and 315/16's? I've been told they are EXPENSIVE, just interested in a ball park figure as I'll need to replace my current Coopers soon.


Ta in advance

bigbluemav wrote:May I ask a ball park figure for 305/16's and 315/16's? I've been told they are EXPENSIVE, just interested in a ball park figure as I'll need to replace my current Coopers soon.


Ta in advance

RRP for 315/75/16 is mid 400s I think

bigbluemav wrote:May I ask a ball park figure for 305/16's and 315/16's? I've been told they are EXPENSIVE, just interested in a ball park figure as I'll need to replace my current Coopers soon.


Ta in advance

I was quoted $420 a tyre from either Fourby's or Ace Tyres.

AJ wrote:RRP for 315/75/16 is mid 400s I think

Mate was quoted $475 on the weekend for 315's.

Must be nice being related :(

bogged wrote:

AJ wrote:RRP for 315/75/16 is mid 400s I think

Mate was quoted $475 on the weekend for 315's.

Must be nice being related :(

That sounds on the high side.
Family pricing rocks

<edit> ready for Toolangi (if there's anything left)
35s, 4.375 diffs, F&R ARBs

has anyone used the speciality sizes 35,36,38x15x15 whats the difference between these and standard sizes ? i got quoted nearly 3k for 4x 38's a few weeks ago is this right ??

bogged wrote:

AJ wrote:RRP for 315/75/16 is mid 400s I think

Mate was quoted $475 on the weekend for 315's.

Must be nice being related :(

OUCH!!!

I paid about $360 nearly a year ago. they have gone up a lot

mine are getting noisey on the road.

AJ wrote:

bigbluemav wrote:May I ask a ball park figure for 305/16's and 315/16's? I've been told they are EXPENSIVE, just interested in a ball park figure as I'll need to replace my current Coopers soon.


Ta in advance

RRP for 315/75/16 is mid 400s I think

Best Price was ...... Big Tread Tyres Capalaba.
$399 each inc fitting, balancing, disposal and a free wheel alignment.

This was Feb 09 prices

80's_delirious wrote:

bogged wrote:

AJ wrote:RRP for 315/75/16 is mid 400s I think

Mate was quoted $475 on the weekend for 315's.

Must be nice being related :(

OUCH!!!

I paid about $360 nearly a year ago. they have gone up a lot

mine are getting noisey on the road.

that was off th street price.
but then, I got quoted one price on MTR's (RRP), then was told in teh same breath he could do them for nearly $70ea better

MTZ's are the best radial aggressive tyre I've owned/tried for an all round, all conditions tyre. Except for noise, that ripping sound they make on road shits me, more intrusive than the drone/hum of the Claws I had previous.

390 each fitted, got them last week, your choice tyre and mechanical, inala, brisbane. 35x12.5x15

My MTZ's are wearing Horribly- 285/75R16 on an LN106 Hilux.

15,000kms in, Mix of Highway, Offroad, Sand, and a 3000km offroad trek to Lake eyre, and im down at least 5mm of tread!

Not getting them again, Really dissapointed with how the 285's are wearing compared to the 31x10.5x15's i had before- They went 40,000kms before getting to 50% tread

Mate, I have found the first few mm wear stupidly fast, and then they get to the hard spot and the wear rate slows dramatically!

I did a 10,000 km Perth to Kimberley to Perth trip and lost about 3mm and then the tyres lasted to about 78k kms with still about 20% tread left before sold with the car.

You'll be right with the wear rates.

I hope your right South, mine have worn faster than Id like too.

I put mine beside my brand new (unfitted) spare, and the difference is really disapointing.

The issue is that ive lost about 1/3 of the tread depth, and the tyres now clog up faster and dont bite in as well as they used to

Ive heard the bigger sizes wear a lot faster than most people are happy with.


Im contemplating getting a set of cooper ST's or another aggressive AT on the 16x8" rims, and then getting some serious offroad tyres on the 15x7's i have- skinny 33's or something

Lads i am baffled to hear some peoples comments on MTZ wear....

again last set on a loaded patrol i got 85 000 and easily could have been 90 000.

Current set just back from birdsville have 71 000 and will be well and truley farked buy 80 000.... they been to cape also and everywhere in between.

again touring type kms in a loaded vehicle (tools friges roof rack/ roof top camper and my very heavy right foot) yes they do get embarassingly noisy at time from half wear generally at 50-60km/hr i found. but what muddies dont..

so either some of the guys do smokies every 2nd corner .....or have incapable cars offroad and are spinning/chewing rubber on every hill i dont know how you could possibly say these give shite mileage.... is simply incorrect. IMHO

the wear rate I have seen with my MTZs has been far quicker than my BFG all terrains, no change in driver, or driving style. I have a heavy right slipper on road (no smoking em up though) and tend to mostly crawl over things fully locked offroad rather than spin tyres and flog things unneccesarily.

May not be fair to compare an AT with MT tyre, but there is no way I can see myself still driving on these by 70k. I reckon they will be racing slicks long before then

80's_delirious wrote:the wear rate I have seen with my MTZs has been far quicker than my BFG all terrains, no change in driver, or driving style. I have a heavy right slipper on road (no smoking em up though) and tend to mostly crawl over things fully locked offroad rather than spin tyres and flog things unneccesarily.

May not be fair to compare an AT with MT tyre, but there is no way I can see myself still driving on these by 70k. I reckon they will be racing slicks long before then

yes mate your right comparing all terrains with muddies is like comparing cabultures girls with sweedish lass's..............

Mmmmmm, swedish girls (drool)




Still, cannot see 70k in these tyres otherwise they have been good

80's_delirious wrote:the wear rate I have seen with my MTZs has been far quicker than my BFG all terrains

From patrol forum

bushytas wrote: mtz s are total 100% **** ive had a set on for 15,000 just have a look at this.
And to top it all off i rang MT and they told me to piss off you might as well said

new 15mm of tread




15,000kms 6mm

again what do we suspect these boys are doing with their rubber...
either the occasional batch of "softer" tyres slips out when the apprentice forgets to add hardener or they are getting raped?????

nothing else makes sense for such variation...........

mine currently at 73500km and getting farked rapidly....

thats about the same level of wear as im getting- not quite as bad, i'd have 10mm left after 17,000kms.

Which is odd, cos the 31x10.5x15's were at about 10mm tread left at 40,000kms when i sold em!

ferrit wrote:I put mine beside my brand new (unfitted) spare, and the difference is really disapointing.

The issue is that ive lost about 1/3 of the tread depth, and the tyres now clog up faster and dont bite in as well as they used to

Ive heard the bigger sizes wear a lot faster than most people are happy with.


Im contemplating getting a set of cooper ST's or another aggressive AT on the 16x8" rims, and then getting some serious offroad tyres on the 15x7's i have- skinny 33's or something

Hey Ferrit,

Ive got Cooper St's in 30x9.5 15's.

So there not an overly large tyre.
Have done 11000kms.
New they had 14mm of tread.
They now have a bit over 12mm, say 12.7 to 12.4ish mm over all 4 tyres.

Have rotated the fronts side to side twice now.
I think the ST's need it every 5k as the side tread blocks tend to wear unevenly due to block movement.
I have not introduced the spare into the mix yet either.

95 Lux, with 145lts long range tank.
Over half of those kms were traveling/ touring with fully laden vehicle, 40lts extra fuel, 100lts water, food, supplies fridge etc.

Trains

bogged wrote:

80's_delirious wrote:the wear rate I have seen with my MTZs has been far quicker than my BFG all terrains

From patrol forum

bushytas wrote: mtz s are total 100% **** ive had a set on for 15,000 just have a look at this.
And to top it all off i rang MT and they told me to piss off you might as well said

new 15mm of tread




15,000kms 6mm

I've had mine for over 2years now and I still have more tread left than him, it's the way you drive.

8UFF35T wrote:
I've had mine for over 2years now and I still have more tread left than him, it's the way you drive.

probably something to do with him ACTUALLY driving