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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:22 pm
by Gwagensteve
First thing to do is ensure that that the centres are the same between both cases. If the distance between the input and intermediate or inter and output shafts is different (even my a tiny tiny bit) it's just not gonna work.

the total tooth count is different to achieve the same (apparently) ratios as a 1.0 with light, so that makes me wonder that the spacing is different.

Steve

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:09 pm
by 11_evl
Ihave 2 rocklobster transfer cases and both seem to hold up and work really well
One has 3.9 gears and 28"
The other has 4.88 and 35"

I think you should continue with the project, just sourse a different case for the other cut.
It will not work with that one your trying to use

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:58 pm
by Zook_Fan
yeah righto, I will get on the look out for 1L gears again.

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:17 pm
by St Jimmy
Zook_Fan wrote:yeah righto, I will get on the look out for 1L gears again.
I've goy a, box full of 1ltr and 1.3ltr gears ;) that need a good home :D

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:34 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
boner59 wrote:
Zook_Fan wrote:yeah righto, I will get on the look out for 1L gears again.
I've goy a, box full of 1ltr and 1.3ltr gears ;) that need a good home :D
I'll take them :D

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:42 pm
by Zook_Fan
If you will send me the right gears that I need, I will happily take them off your hands :lol:.

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:42 am
by St Jimmy
r0ck_m0nkey wrote:
boner59 wrote:
Zook_Fan wrote:yeah righto, I will get on the look out for 1L gears again.
I've goy a, box full of 1ltr and 1.3ltr gears ;) that need a good home :D
I'll take them :D
send me a pm if you want them ;)

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:02 pm
by 11_evl
mine are done like this

23 teeth on the smaller one and 53 teeth

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:15 pm
by Zook_Fan
Boner59 - pm sent

11_evl - are you using the 1L or the 1.3L case? Did you machine and weld it yourself or pay for someone to do it?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:56 am
by 11_evl
not sure what case i will use as this is a spare for me.

i supplied the gears and it cost me $250 to be welded up.

i have 2 others just like this and they are going great

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:34 pm
by Zook_Fan
Oh okay what sort shop did you take it to? engineering or machining?

Anyone else got some 1L gears they would sell me?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:52 pm
by trialjimny
you can't build a 4,16 "rocklobster" using that set of pre-1984 sj 410 gears to mate with samurai1300 gears.

save your time and get a 4,16 kit from usa, they are pretty cheap now.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:44 pm
by Zook_Fan
yeah i know mate, i have officially given up on the project. and yeah i did look at prices and the 4.16 is only 399 US at the moment, but what looked even better was the 6.5's for 475US or $599 AUS at the moment, through lowrange offroad. Anyone know what sort of postage costs are involved?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:49 pm
by Gwagensteve
Should go in a USD$55 USPS global express box.

Steve.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:44 pm
by Zook_Fan
thanks for that steve, so that makes it $670.50. food for thought, there is now an 8.1 set for sale at lowrange as well :twisted:. too low for me but others may like it

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:49 pm
by sheps
grab the bearing kit as well.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:59 pm
by Zook_Fan
the 6.5's comes with the bearings

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:09 pm
by Gwagensteve
I don't think the 8:1's make any real sense.

TG 6.5's come with everything you need to fit them, as long as your case was in good nick when you started.

Interestingly, Trail Tough install kits come with all suzuki genuine parts (seals, bearings, gaskets and intermediate shaft) TG gears come with 3rd party install parts.

Just an observation.

I've been ecstatic with with TT 6.5:1's. not the cheapest option, but they're very quiet. (no noisier than stock gears)

Steve.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:58 pm
by Gwagensteve

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:15 pm
by Zook_Fan
would love to know how that is on for, i saw that the other day. at only $20US more than the TG stuff I suppose it is worth it but i wont have the cash for a couple of week :(

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:17 pm
by Zook_Fan
they alter high range a lot less though. only 17% as opposed to 20%

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:17 pm
by Gwagensteve
Just contact TT and ask.

There's another catch with TT - I think they only ship UPS (not USPS) so freight is dearer, but quicker and better insured.

Steve.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:31 pm
by sheps
Zook_Fan wrote:the 6.5's comes with the bearings
yes but not all the bearings that are in the trans box. if you have it in bits
it would make sence to replace the rest of the bearings.

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:18 pm
by Zook_Fan
yeah shep that does make sense. How do you get the speedo gear out? does the whole barrel come out or is it just the gear?