Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Kitika wrote:If you go out to outback communities they all drive commo's and that out there anyways as the tracks aren't really that bad and petrol isn't hard to come by as everyone makes out. A mate of mine had VH commo he got for $400 and we couldn't break anything doing jumps and rally driving down really rough 4wd tracks(even sucked in large amounts of water doing river crossings and bog holes and it just wouldn't die). Also the Great central road we did recently had old holden/falcon/commo wrecks every 500m so there is a huge amount of spares out there! I'd stick with a standard kingswood with a 253/308 and rear difflock of some description and you'd be set!

VH commodoores SUCK for jumps, first time you come down hard it smashes the bottom of the radiator

Jes

Serously who would be crazey enough to lower their standards by crossing a holden and a nissan

beinthemud wrote:Serously who would be crazey enough to lower their standards by crossing a holden and a nissan

that my friend would be a VL commodore.

NICK wrote:

beinthemud wrote:Serously who would be crazey enough to lower their standards by crossing a holden and a nissan

that my friend would be a VL commodore.

or a N13 pulsar / astra.

Haha yeah mate
as for rebadging

Guy From Nowhere wrote:G'day all,

I have been searching around for some details on turning a kingswood into a 4x4. Having looked at most of the internet stuff I couls, it would appear that nearly all have been done on toyota leaf sprung chasis.

Does anyone know of, or tried, shucking a Kingswood onto a patrol chasis?

I am familliar with the work Overlander did way back when, but not too much info on the coiled chasis.

Cheers,
GFN

LOL, I seen this done on the road today was it you driving it down the road.

Looked a bit strange though with the body so high up.

The 1 I seen is yellow with 20" mag wheels or something, the bottom of the body doesn't even come near the top of the rubber.

beinthemud wrote:Haha yeah mate
as for rebadging

Only the N13 wa rebagded but it started life as a Nissan with a Holden engine.

Between the two Nissan got the raw end of the deal with the old Camira engine.

Mmmm ,
Sure you can get a two wheel drive heaps of places with a bit of lift and some agressive tyres. But for a real around oz trip without backup ?
You think it could haul its own arse and a load of junk over the top of big red Bahahaha
Lets face it if i came across somone that had tried doing a track in a two wheel drive and got stuck bad i would probly offer to cart them and there gear out but leave the car , i won;t break gear and risk being stuck myself because of some one elses stupidity of non preparation.

The problem with rebodys is getting the body sitting nice on the chassis.
Most look stupid huge chassis and a body sitting 3" off it , wrong curves ,
just ugly. And im sure you don,t want to go thru channeling the body to fit it neat .

The easy way to achieve somthing like what you want .
One tonner Body , you can use the pov front end to make it look more ancient,Gq Lwb chassis ,By using the one ton body you will get it to sit neater and lower on the chassis im thinking,as you only have half the curves in the chassi to worry about.
There should be enough room under the bonnet for any engine combo that came in the GQ chassi. Best for your endevour probly TD42 turbo ?
Build a slide on with pop top and small crawl thru from between seats to take care of sleeping and storage,

Add a woodgrain flash down the side for authenticety(spell ).

Just some thoughts

Rebodies are fun.

Just add to that , you will need the earlyist chas you can get 1988.
and check your adr list to make sure you can bring the body up to spec
to match the adr,s . Around the era stuff like padded dash,s ect where
the sort of thing nothing to wild as far as adr,s where in .

Dozoor wrote:Mmmm ,
Sure you can get a two wheel drive heaps of places with a bit of lift and some agressive tyres. But for a real around oz trip without backup ?
You think it could haul its own arse and a load of junk over the top of big red Bahahaha

Old mate took that absolutely stock HQ sedan over Big Red a few years ago, there's a few pictures in the Birdsville Hotel showing him do it.



Myself, I'd get something to be a real talking point

Maybe around Oz in a Tank or a Moke on a Zook chassis

Dozoor wrote:Just add to that , you will need the earlyist chas you can get 1988.
and check your adr list to make sure you can bring the body up to spec
to match the adr,s . Around the era stuff like padded dash,s ect where
the sort of thing nothing to wild as far as adr,s where in .

If he gets an 88 chassis then the ADR's will be less of an issue as they will be similar between models.

Its the Third Edition ADR's that become way more complicated.

mkpatrol wrote:

Dozoor wrote:Just add to that , you will need the earlyist chas you can get 1988.
and check your adr list to make sure you can bring the body up to spec
to match the adr,s . Around the era stuff like padded dash,s ect where
the sort of thing nothing to wild as far as adr,s where in .

If he gets an 88 chassis then the ADR's will be less of an issue as they will be similar between models.

Its the Thirs Edition ADR's that become way more complicated.

Exactly .

Tailspin wrote:

scuba steve 22 wrote:there's a bloke up maryborough way who has been putting commodores on gq chassis, all mod plated/legal. they looked very cool. he might be able to help
i don't have a contact 4 him(i met him at the toowoomba swap meet)


cheers steve

Lyn Houston is his name. He lives in Granville Maryborough, Has done a few, with his first one was a Kingswood wagon on a 55 series chassis with a v6 auto, then VN wagon on Hilux chassis, then VS Commodore dual cab on Patrol chassis running supercharged V6 auto and then VS xtra cab running a 5 litre manual on GQ chassis.

that's him, nice bloke. sold me an air locka 4 $500, couldn't be happier
he had the vs/patrol at the time. are you the same tailspin on wide bay 4x4? I'm steves80 on there

cheers steve

G'day all,

Thanks for the interesting narrative thus far. tHe most important point that had slipped my mind was ADRs. I will have to research these more thuroughly. My plan was to start with a written report of the specifications and mods I want to complete which I would then submit to my engineer.

My plan for the engine was a turbo V8 diesel on diesel gas. The V8 for the fact that real kingswoods have V8s and the diesel for ease of carrying extra fuel.

From the sounds of things, if I were to convert my kingswood to be coil sprung and 4WD on its own chasis, even though it is more work, it would be easier to pass on paper?

CHeers,
GFN

Guy From Nowhere wrote:G'day all,

Thanks for the interesting narrative thus far. tHe most important point that had slipped my mind was ADRs. I will have to research these more thuroughly. My plan was to start with a written report of the specifications and mods I want to complete which I would then submit to my engineer.

My plan for the engine was a turbo V8 diesel on diesel gas. The V8 for the fact that real kingswoods have V8s and the diesel for ease of carrying extra fuel.

From the sounds of things, if I were to convert my kingswood to be coil sprung and 4WD on its own chasis, even though it is more work, it would be easier to pass on paper?

CHeers,
GFN

That sounds good , If you where to just graft a complete GQ suspension setup on to the Hq , then you have standard control arms /panards/links ect that are easy for ID by the engineer .

And Im not sure But isn,t the chev v8 diesel based on a 350 block ?
If so you may find you could use stock 350 engine mounts that bolt striaght up (nar that would be to easy ha !) any body Know about these ?