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Posted: **Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:33 pm**

SIMMO84 wrote:
bogged wrote:
RO8M wrote:OT
SIMMO84 wrote: finish my beer and hit the tracks............ with another beer.
I don't get this. Why is drink/driving acceptable on tracks, when it's not on the road? Your judgment is impaired just the same.
it sounds and appears tuffer to drink piss in the bush while driving...

Tuffer than lattes.......

Wait 'til you spill one on your crotch when you're driving. Then you'll find out who's tuff.

Posted: **Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:35 pm**

some must not work well and some must because mine will deflate within 1psi of each other if not all the same psi as i set them to, they were a bit of a time consumer to set up properly as some didnt set to the psi i wanted the first time and i tripple checked them all before i was happy to take them in the bush but i havent found any inconsistancey in mine yet.

Posted: **Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:35 pm**

-Scott- wrote:
SIMMO84 wrote:
bogged wrote:
RO8M wrote:OT
SIMMO84 wrote: finish my beer and hit the tracks............ with another beer.
I don't get this. Why is drink/driving acceptable on tracks, when it's not on the road? Your judgment is impaired just the same.
it sounds and appears tuffer to drink piss in the bush while driving...

Tuffer than lattes.......

Wait 'til you spill one on your crotch when you're driving. Then you'll find out who's tuff.

......... yeah Im not that tough.

Posted: **Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:21 pm**

Go the ferret there on youtube they look good!!

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:08 pm**

Anyone got a contact for ARB for a bulk buy on EZY Deflator's??

I'll run it again if we can get a contact for a decent price.

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:53 pm**

hahah they are not the best product.

I have mine set to go down to flat. I screw them on and wait at the first tyre until i think it is about right. Then I unscrew them in the same fasion.

Worked a treat on the weekend each creepy was at 7psi when I aired up at the servo.

p.s. that Ferret looks like a good idea.

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:49 pm**

bogged wrote:Anyone got a contact for ARB for a bulk buy on EZY Deflator's??

I'll run it again if we can get a contact for a decent price.

Why? Get a Ferret its a 1/3rd of the price of a ARB deflator, made of solid brass and marine-grade stainless-steel, made in Australia, lifetime guaranteed and fits on a key ring.

BeNos;297539 wrote:hey rod
the ferret i got off ya the other day was actually a fathers day pressie sent direct to him, he got it today and rang to say it looks like an absolute ripper and cant wait to use it. i reckon i could be palming off the ezedeflater to make way for a ferret myself soon.
thanks again mate

BIG GQ;257042 wrote:As I have said previously I love my ferret and after using the ARB easy deflator(which I thought was great) saw the ferret pop up on here and the price was awsome so I purchased the ferret and I love the bloody thing

I was amazed at exactly how accurate it is with a simple "one thousand and one, one thousand and two one thousand and three, etc" count and at the end of the day it is always on my key ring so never an issue to find.

If I wasn't happy with my purchase or the seller then you can bet I'd be the first to let you know but really, I'm wrapped with the product and the communication

toecutter;264458 wrote:Got one, had it for two years bought at the show in Brissy:
All I can say about this little gem is BRILLIANT.

No O-rings, no guages, functional simplicity at its best.

Cheers

TC

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:00 pm**

SIM79 wrote:
bogged wrote:Anyone got a contact for ARB for a bulk buy on EZY Deflator's??

I'll run it again if we can get a contact for a decent price.
Why? Get a Ferret its a 1/3rd of the price of a ARB deflator,

personally would be nice to find one with a pressure gauge as part of the unit, so you dont have the on/off/on/off to get the pressure right when going from 40 to 18 etc.

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:12 pm**

just a quicky.
I went out today and used my stauns. dropped them down to 18psi.
checked them all, were within 1 psi.
when i pumped back at the servo one the way home. all were 18psi.

The other guy who was with me had an arb deflater. we had our tyres down in the same time.

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:42 pm**

bogged wrote:
SIM79 wrote:
bogged wrote:Anyone got a contact for ARB for a bulk buy on EZY Deflator's??

I'll run it again if we can get a contact for a decent price.
Why? Get a Ferret its a 1/3rd of the price of a ARB deflator,
personally would be nice to find one with a pressure gauge as part of the unit, so you dont have the on/off/on/off to get the pressure right when going from 40 to 18 etc.

When I first got the ferret, I used check the pressures a far bit, but now I know theres no need its accurate 1 psi a second, now I just check starting pressures, remove core for 10-12 seconds and done.

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:53 pm**

SIM79 wrote:but now I know theres no need its accurate 1 psi a second, now I just check starting pressures, remove core for 10-12 seconds and done.

pretty much what I do with the valve core removing tool I use - one of them valve removing caps on an old valve stem...

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:20 pm**

bogged wrote:
SIM79 wrote:but now I know theres no need its accurate 1 psi a second, now I just check starting pressures, remove core for 10-12 seconds and done.
pretty much what I do with the valve core removing tool I use - one of them valve removing caps on an old valve stem...

The only issue with core removing tool is if your not careful you can loose the core but with a ferret thats impossible as the core is only removed a few mm away from the valve and stays inside ferret.

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:25 pm**

Had stauns for about 6-7 years now, pulled them apart and cleaned them twice in that time(?), given them a squirt of silicon lube very occasionally, no problems at all.

have had them set on 20lbs, never a problem. All air down to within a lb of each other, every time.

I used an ARB deflator a couple of times (a mate bought one and had no idea how to use it). Worked well enough, but i found it was fiddly.

Particularly when airing down in mud/snow/rain/freezing cold, give me stauns everytime. (sit in the car with heater on ).

What are you guys doing wrong?

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:35 pm**

Ferret - It can't be 1psi per second in all cases...

a 29" tyre will lose pressure much faster than a 40" tyre.

An EZ deflator is a ferret with a gauge... Screw it on once, set the exact pressure you want, screw it back off once.
You cant do that with a ferret. You can get it close by playing the counting game, but for me a tolerance of 3-4psi is not good enough. I can get a tolerance of less than 0.5psi with the EZY, in one go.

Any cost saving is soon made up for in extra stuffing around.

Mike

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:47 pm**

mike_nofx wrote: I can get a tolerance of less than 0.5psi with the EZY, in one go.

Any cost saving is soon made up for in extra stuffing around.

After a few goes using Ferret there is zero stuffing around as pressures are spot on or half psi out. After airing down I never check by pressures now as its always the correct pressure or out by half psi worste case.

Ferret
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1NJjaXb ... re=related

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:13 pm**

I've a set of Stauns somewhere, and for all I care that's where they can stay. Too much variation and not all that fast IMO

EZ deflator for me....

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:28 pm**

SIM79 wrote:
mike_nofx wrote: I can get a tolerance of less than 0.5psi with the EZY, in one go.

Any cost saving is soon made up for in extra stuffing around.
After a few goes using Ferret there is zero stuffing around as pressures are spot on or half psi out. After airing down I never check by pressures now as its always the correct pressure or out by half psi worste case.

Ferret
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1NJjaXb ... re=related

Hi Guys and ladies, just going past , thought I'd drop in and clear up a few things about the "FERRET", Yes there will be a variation between a 29 inch and a 40 inch tyre, as the "pounds" are bigger if you like and take a little longer to escape, Not that I have seen many 40 inch tyres on 4bys

however there is nothing QUICKER. The FERRET deflates a 10 R 15X31 @ 1psi/sec, so 40psi to 18 psi for example will take 22 secs, that's by counting or looking at your watch, as sim 79 has said, you won't lose a valve and after a couple of goes you will be an expert. A 16 or 17inch will take an extra few secs, just the shot for muddies too. If you have a question about Ferret deflators, post it here and I can answer it for you,

I'm in the know so to speak.

Posted: **Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:53 pm**

the ferret wrote:
SIM79 wrote:
mike_nofx wrote: I can get a tolerance of less than 0.5psi with the EZY, in one go.

Any cost saving is soon made up for in extra stuffing around.
After a few goes using Ferret there is zero stuffing around as pressures are spot on or half psi out. After airing down I never check by pressures now as its always the correct pressure or out by half psi worste case.

Ferret
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1NJjaXb ... re=related
Hi Guys and ladies, just going past , thought I'd drop in and clear up a few things about the "FERRET", Yes there will be a variation between a 29 inch and a 40 inch tyre, as the "pounds" are bigger if you like and take a little longer to escape, however there is nothing QUICKER. The FERRET deflates a 10 R 15X31 @ 1psi/sec, so 40psi to 18 psi for example will take 22 secs, that's by counting or looking at your watch, as sim 79 has said, you won't lose a valve and after a couple of goes you will be an expert. A 16 or 17inch will take an extra few secs, just the shot for muddies too.If you have a question about Ferret delators, post it here and I can answer it for you, I'm in the know so to speak.

X azillion, The ferrets the go!!! Poops all over the others,and will last 4EVA!!!

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:34 pm**

I recenlty tried an ARB deflator and hatted it, its to big to fiddly and too slow. Ferret is heaps easier to use and heaps faster.

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:39 pm**

SIM79 wrote:I recenlty tried an ARB deflator and hatted it, its to big to fiddly and too slow. Ferret is heaps easier to use and heaps faster.

Swat Iv'e been sayin all along!

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:19 pm**

Yeah i heard the same about Staun when i was in the market, so i chose the ARB deflator, it is a bit fiddly but say it takes you 10 min to deflate your tyres

wow wouldnt want to waste toooo much of your time now!
The ferret looks like a good little thing, might try one myself. The more gadgets in the kit the better.

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:28 pm**

Another drawback with the ferret that I see is, what if a tyre is a little bit flat before you start, you don't realise, by the time its deflated as per normal counting procedure it could be low to the point of blowing a bead when offroading.

you HAVE to know what pressures your running before you start, and you SHOULD check them when your finished deflating.
With the stauns they are preset, and when set right and looked after are accurate.
with the ezdeflator it's easy to check as the gauge is part of it. with the ferret it would be a hassle to have to unscrew it to screw on a separate gauge.

maybe Mr ferret could look at adding a gauge to a future model, but keep the flow rate to be quicker then the ARB unit.

Another thing I would like to see is an inflator/gauge setup that removes the valve core. I have an endless air setup and the only thing limiting how long it takes to inflate a tyre is the valve core.
maybe you could come up with a deflator/inflator/guage all in one. have a standard 1/4"BSP inlet so people can use whatever hose/fitting combo they want. I persomally would be using nitto's.

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:34 pm**

Ok i just researched and watched mr ferret and his fancy deflator, i wont be buying one because all it is is an ARB deflator minus the gauge.
I own an ARB deflator and if its a bit slower than mr ferrets one i dont care enough to save myself 20 seconds per tyre plus have to check by separate gauge. ARB all the way.

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:54 pm**

X tealpantsteen

Steve.

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:30 pm**

mrw82 has a valid comment with regard to the "bit flat" saga, however in ten years of sales world wide, this has never been a problem, and it's not as bigger drama to check pressures beforehand as suggested. The whole Idea of the Ferret was to be quick,keyring job,can't loose a valve and to out last any others. Stauns are a great product if you want preset, Arb if you want a gauge, I have no intention of putting a gauge on the Ferret,EVER. I have checked back and found that sim79 was one of my earliest customers, is an avid 4byer and has posted intelligent comments on many forums, I would be inclined to trust HIS opinion even tho I wouldn't know him from a bar of soap . Bearing in mind a gauge requires hoses , '0' rings, plunging bits n pieces and takes up more space. Use whatever suits you best I say.

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:57 pm**

My Stauns are 6 years old old and I've never ever had a fault with them. To set them properly use a tyre on the car with weight on it not the spare like Staun suggest.
I keep mine clean and out of mud and sand too. I've set mine at 16 and they always go +/- 1psi of that.
I've got a Ferret too for airing down less than 16psi when I need to (no need to get out the stauns for a few more psi, mine are 30 odd to 15 anyway) but I always check the pressures with a gauge after.
I dont care if it takes a little longer with the Stauns, I'm in no race but the Ferret is very handy if you need to air down quick eg: stuck on the beach and the waves are comin in!

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:11 pm**

I've got the stauns and yeah they're not the most accurate, I like running around 9 psi so I set them at about 12 and just have a chat while they do there thing and check with the gauge after and it only takes a few seconds to drain the last couple of psi.

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:25 pm**

Wozza244 wrote:Ok i just researched and watched mr ferret and his fancy deflator, i wont be buying one because all it is is an ARB deflator minus the gauge.
I own an ARB deflator and if its a bit slower than mr ferrets one i dont care enough to save myself 20 seconds per tyre plus have to check by separate gauge. ARB all the way.

Well actally, the ARB is a FERRET with a gauge, imo, seeing that the FERRET was FIRST, as I have said, to each his own, use what you are comfortable with, enjoy your 4 wheeling and stay safe.

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:39 pm**

mrw82 wrote:you HAVE to know what pressures your running before you start.

doesnt everybody do this before letting air out??

I have all 3 and in this order is best to worst.
Ferret (by the way - these are hand made!)
ARB

staun

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:10 pm**

I must be weird. My Stauns work well enough for my purposes.

Personally, if I was stuck on the beach on an incoming tide, I'd screw the Stauns on, back them off two turns each, then get back to the shovel - why fark around with ARB or Ferret?

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