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Its time to man up and buy a real tyre

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im also having the exact same problem with my mtz had them for same amount of time and just though it was dew to it being a softer compound[/quote]

The wear looks even.
I used to get about 20k max to 10-12mm on Muddies.

The tread rubber is a softer compound for GRIP.

If you want life you need a harder compound and an All terrain tyre with sipes.

Its a pity re price but good tyres never last very long (good as in work well NOT wear well)

Bazzle

I've just spent another few $$$$ on 35's(too late for a refund). I say bring it on Mickey Thompson. If they don't last, pay up!!!!!!! Go all the way Bushy.

SIM79 wrote:Its time to man up and buy a real tyre

Bwahahaha best post in thread.

Can you post a pic across the tread from front on of each tyre.

Layto....

lay80n wrote:

SIM79 wrote:Its time to man up and buy a real tyre

Bwahahaha best post in thread.

Can you post a pic across the tread from front on of each tyre.

Layto....

Can you buy them in Australia how much, where from, I’ve never seen anyone in Tassie with them?
Are they any good is the big question and compound? Hard, soft

Where did you buy these tyres? Did you call the place where you bought these tyres from?

Does anybody know if age of the tyre might be the problem? E.g. " I bought new tyres and I left them in the shed for 2years"... Could that be an issue?

I want to know how you drive, I know it's hard to answer "What do you drive like?" but in saying in all this, someone really has to sit with you.

Tasy is a very cold place aswell, I remember in phyics I was rubbing my eraser on a cold surface (2-5 degrees). The rubber was very hard to move, so the grip was increased. The flakes of the rubber was insane, like I rubbed on the surface 10 times, 40% of the rubber was already used. I was using probably 10kg of force + gravity.

In saying this I think it's due to wheather conditions aswell, but I don't know... I'm just pissed the way you say DON"T BUY THESE CRAP tyres, because I use to work for a tyre fitting place, and MTZ's are very popular set of beats... and your here telling your story thats not even legit.

Before any issue you should have clear evidence, and well written description on how you think these are crap. Ofcourse theres others out there that having the same issue with you, but are you sure they arn't the same driver as you?

AND NO im not having a go at you (im pretty sad that you've gone through this), im just another MTZ customer... I want to buy these tyres next, and there after, also I want other people to buy these... because this is how amazing this tyre is.

cheers

p.s please dont flame at me .. because I will flame back at you 100x worse

I think it was more than the ERASER you were RUBBING!!!!!

GETNHI wrote:I think it was more than the ERASER you were RUBBING!!!!!

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

dirty lil one arn't ya. Nah but I bet physics does coun't in this matter.

bushytas wrote:

lay80n wrote:

SIM79 wrote:Its time to man up and buy a real tyre

Bwahahaha best post in thread.

Can you post a pic across the tread from front on of each tyre.

Layto....

Can you buy them in Australia how much, where from, I’ve never seen anyone in Tassie with them?
Are they any good is the big question and compound? Hard, soft

they are crap... search a bit for thornturds

mtz's are a good tyre.

its good to hear the other side of somthin all ive heard are that mtzs an stts are the best out however they nearly seem too good to be true? im glad that someone is sayin what they believe about a product an that is what these forums are about. so where is your written evidence that these tyres are good buttfest?

8UFF35T wrote:Where did you buy these tyres? Did you call the place where you bought these tyres from? Pretty sire he said in one of the posts he did...

Does anybody know if age of the tyre might be the problem? E.g. " I bought new tyres and I left them in the shed for 2years"... Could that be an issue? Your the ex tyre fitter you tell us?

I want to know how you drive, I know it's hard to answer "What do you drive like?" but in saying in all this, someone really has to sit with you.
Has also been answerd in prev post?

Tasy is a very cold place aswell, I remember in phyics I was rubbing my eraser on a cold surface (2-5 degrees). The rubber was very hard to move, so the grip was increased. The flakes of the rubber was insane, like I rubbed on the surface 10 times, 40% of the rubber was already used. I was using probably 10kg of force + gravity.
No comment LOL

In saying this I think it's due to wheather conditions aswell, but I don't know... I'm just pissed the way you say DON"T BUY THESE CRAP tyres, because I use to work for a tyre fitting place, and MTZ's are very popular set of beats... and your here telling your story thats not even legit.
He did'nt say anywear " DoNT'T BUY THESE TYRES??
Before any issue you should have clear evidence, and well written description on how you think these are crap. Ofcourse theres others out there that having the same issue with you, but are you sure they arn't the same driver as you?


p.s please dont flame at me .. because I will flame back at you -100x worse

LOL i have never met still to this very second second a tyre fitter that IS NOT a bullshit artist...

wardy1 wrote:

8UFF35T wrote:Where did you buy these tyres? Did you call the place where you bought these tyres from? Pretty sire he said in one of the posts he did...

Does anybody know if age of the tyre might be the problem? E.g. " I bought new tyres and I left them in the shed for 2years"... Could that be an issue? Your the ex tyre fitter you tell us?

I want to know how you drive, I know it's hard to answer "What do you drive like?" but in saying in all this, someone really has to sit with you.
Has also been answerd in prev post?

Tasy is a very cold place aswell, I remember in phyics I was rubbing my eraser on a cold surface (2-5 degrees). The rubber was very hard to move, so the grip was increased. The flakes of the rubber was insane, like I rubbed on the surface 10 times, 40% of the rubber was already used. I was using probably 10kg of force + gravity.
No comment LOL

In saying this I think it's due to wheather conditions aswell, but I don't know... I'm just pissed the way you say DON"T BUY THESE CRAP tyres, because I use to work for a tyre fitting place, and MTZ's are very popular set of beats... and your here telling your story thats not even legit.
He did'nt say anywear " DoNT'T BUY THESE TYRES??
Before any issue you should have clear evidence, and well written description on how you think these are crap. Ofcourse theres others out there that having the same issue with you, but are you sure they arn't the same driver as you?


p.s please dont flame at me .. because I will flame back at you -100x worse

LOL i have never met still to this very second second a tyre fitter that IS NOT a bullshit artist...

He is a Kid at School that has done some very limmited work experiance in a tyre shop. I wouldnt put much faith in any of his advice. He is also no longer a member here so wont be replying

8UFF35T wrote:and your here telling your story thats not even legit.

And you know it is not legit dont you - how?? Bet you wouldnt call the bloke a liar to his face...

wardy1 wrote:LOL i have never met still to this very second second a tyre fitter that IS NOT a bullshit artist..

RUFF wrote:He is also no longer a member here so wont be replying

Marry me? Your better lookin, you can be the wife.

8UFF35T wrote:

m0rkz wrote:

rumpig89 wrote:i have had a set of 35" mtz's for around two years and done just over 15000 on them. A heap of other blokes i drive with have them and think they are the beeez kneez. I agree that they are a top all-rounder tyre but am a little peeved with how quickly mine have worn compared to other who have had theirs a lot longer and done heaps more k's!!

I am not saying i go easy on them but i certainly dont spin them on the bitumen or thrash them. That said the wear (in my completely uneducated opinion) seems to be crappy rubber. The sidewalls are littered with fine splits, most of the writing has peeled off, tread worn considerably, and seem to have hardened...

i asked the local tyre shop (who i brought them from) but they instantly responded that it would be due to environmental damage. Dont have any pics just at the moment.

If the deterioration is due to driving damage i can accept that and be happy with it but if it is because i happened upon a dud batch i wouldnt be too happy having to replace them in the near future.

all being said I would prob buy them again.

im also having the exact same problem with my mtz had them for same amount of time and just though it was dew to it being a softer compound

hey m0rkz,
when did you buy these tyres? Looks like I will have to move on to BFG tyres

and Luke... bogged shouldn't scare you, old fart got nothing to do but pick on me .

i got my tyres roughly 12 months ago from bbm. i run 35x12.5xr15 on a hilux. i heard alot of good things about the mtz and couldnt understand the way mine are wearing out. fanastic tyre just spewin that they have worn so much!

Do you still want mine after this scathing thread Bruce?

T_Diesel wrote:Do you still want mine after this scathing thread Bruce?

maybe.. if you deliver them

im gunna miss Buttfest, and he's insight into the real world,
sh@#$#t did i say real, wouldnt that mean it would have actually
had to have happened??????

I have no experience with the MTZs, but i have been running Baja claws for over two years now, and have had minimal wear at all, even though they are a fairly soft compound...
Maybe it is because I drive a zooki!

I would be pissed at the tyres wearing that fast.

IM a Rep on the road, I do between 500klm & 1000klm per week.
# My car is 06 GU 3lt dsl patrol, with steel Bull bar, tow bar & fridge.
# It carries (my fat ass) & about 8 ctns of brochures (16kg each) & a heap of other work crap.
# TYRES :- I first ran with the factory supplied (they wore very quickly)
Then:- Micky/T ATZ (road) they were gr8, 110,000klm
Then :- Micky/T MTZ (mud) at 40,000KLM they were 1/2 worn, so I traded them in at FOURBEYS. They were a gr8 tyre but I was wasting them by only using them on the road.
NOW ;- Micky/T ATZ(new allterain) so far Im happy but they are too new to make any coment on klms... & everyone luvs brand new tyres the first month.
ALL MY TYRES(not the spare) GET ROTATED & BALANCED EVERY SERVICE EVERY 10,000klm, so wear is even

Hope you have better luck with your tyres.
Im happy with Micky/T tyres, but tyres are a personal choice.
my 2c PIGLET.

i have a friend that runs them (mtz's) on a gu td with front and rear barwork in whatever the metric equiv of 33's is.
he tells me that he has travelled approx 34,000km on them at 35 psi and judgeing by his brand new spare he's down to about a 1/4 tread left.
now this bloke is hardly what I'd call hard on tyres.
so they maybe good fo 50k tops if you run them right down, but who wants to run muddies right down? that seems fairly pointless.

I on the other hand run bighorns in 31's on a v6 courier that I thrash the arse off and it regularly carries 1/2 tonne plus in tray or tows up to 2 ton and at 40,000km im still at half tread.

in the mtz's defence they seem like a good grippy muddy with good handling traits so maybe thats just the way they are.
they seen to me that km to $ ratio is a bit hard to justify in my case.

I have never used MTZ's, so here is the info i am gathering from peoples experiences with them:

MTZ's are a soft compound, which wear quite quickly (apparently for some?) and are sold as more of an off-road tyre than on-road.
Yet they have a very 'all terrain' type tread pattern. So you wouldn't bother having a seperate on road set. (any more road oriented and you will have semi-slicks!)
They are average performers in mud and most off-road situations, bar maybe sand.
They cost a fortune to buy, and if they dont last THAT long, they could become a very expensive tyre to continue running.

So where is their place? It seems they have the worst of all-terrains (not that good off road) and of Mud Terrains (wear quickly, cost a fortune)

Please educate me!!

Mike

mike_nofx wrote:I have never used MTZ's, so here is the info i am gathering from peoples experiences with them:

MTZ's are a soft compound, which wear quite quickly (apparently for some?) and are sold as more of an off-road tyre than on-road.
Yet they have a very 'all terrain' type tread pattern. So you wouldn't bother having a seperate on road set. (any more road oriented and you will have semi-slicks!)
They are average performers in mud and most off-road situations, bar maybe sand.
They cost a fortune to buy, and if they dont last THAT long, they could become a very expensive tyre to continue running.

So where is their place? It seems they have the worst of all-terrains (not that good off road) and of Mud Terrains (wear quickly, cost a fortune)

Please educate me!!

Mike

I am reading it a bit (potentially) differently, that the compound hardness is inconsistent between batches.

Mine had 16mm tread when new and now after 45,000klm they have 10mm, best tyre I have run so far and I would buy again.

I have a set of 35/12.5/15 on my 75 series which is close to 2900kg loaded weight. I am a hard driver so they get used, they have done 15,000 in a little over 5 months at present and have been used in a bit of every terrain, I even have bad camber on the front AND with no wheel alignment until last week, still had more tread on the inside of my fronts than you have. I find them a fantastic tyre, haven't had one issue with them and for me, are a good all round tyre.

Just talked to the guy i bought mine from, hes contacted the rep here in adelaide to inspect them at a later date, but the word is from the importer that its a combination of "Tread wear and Tread compression" and that the last 6mm will last ages.

But its only affecting 285 sized tyres....

At the current rate, im not going to get 30,000kms out of mine, which is bullshit, i got 40,000kms out of the last set before I sold them at more than 50% remaining!

It will be interesting to see what happens, but my tyre guy is saying that hes supporting me, because you dont buy a mud terrain to wear out 2/3 of it in 17,000kms, and then get 50,000kms out of the last little bit- you might as well have bought an All Terrain....

We will see what happens, but its also been raised with the rep that this kind of wear is well publicized on different forums!

Ive had a set of 6, rotating them around for a couple of cape trips and weekend work on my patrol in the 285/75r16 and the treads really dont look all that worn. The tread blocks have retained the same shape rather then wearing down and getting that sharp angular look, however they have quite noticeably compressed down.

Im quite happy with them, i was expecting some delamination or destruction after overheating a couple, but they still appear to be fine. Still nice and soft too.

Sam