Outer Limits 4x4 Board

OzTeXs wrote:sorry .. just don't like the look of the rangies .. id prefer to stick with jap technology.

There's a reason why they're ugly.. To try and stop people from buying them.

from a dollar perspective it'd be hard to go past a GQ. They're cheap, relatively reliable, parts are plentiful and cheap, mods are cheap.
Down side is they're not that well built upstairs and older ones or well used ones will have creaks, groans, rattles and wobbles..
For a well built tourer the 80 wins hands down. Better built, more reliable, more comfortable, but you pay for it.

You'll do well with either.

You're family will hate you when you try and pack everything and everybody into a hilux.
You're mechanic will love you if you buy anything rover.
You'll hate your self if you buy a suzi.

Dan

The creaks, groans and rattles Ruffy mentions are actually factory fitted to the GQ Patrols. Nothing to stress about really.

OzTeXs wrote:sorry .. just don't like the look of the rangies .. id prefer to stick with jap technology.

If that is the case then GQ wagon is the answer. The newest and cleanest one you can find within your budget.

OzTeXs wrote:sorry .. just don't like the look of the rangies .. id prefer to stick with jap technology.

Aint that a contradiciton in terms , coz the patrol/ cruiser is so advanced

Loanrangie wrote:

OzTeXs wrote:sorry .. just don't like the look of the rangies .. id prefer to stick with jap technology.

Aint that a contradiciton in terms , coz the patrol/ cruiser is so advanced

haha nice one.

but i was looking at a yard on the weekend .. and there was a couple of disco's on show .. and i actually liked it ! .. seem so spacious inside and i know they are capable offroad. just not sure on the fuel economy even on gas.

Ill do more research .. at this stage iam still looking for a clean GQ

OzTeXs wrote:but i was looking at a yard on the weekend .. and there was a couple of disco's on show .. and i actually liked it ! .. seem so spacious inside and i know they are capable offroad. just not sure on the fuel economy even on gas.

On gas it will do better than a GQ.

chimpboy wrote:

OzTeXs wrote:but i was looking at a yard on the weekend .. and there was a couple of disco's on show .. and i actually liked it ! .. seem so spacious inside and i know they are capable offroad. just not sure on the fuel economy even on gas.

On gas it will do better than a GQ.

What about the turbo-diesel rovers??

coxy321 wrote:

chimpboy wrote:

OzTeXs wrote:but i was looking at a yard on the weekend .. and there was a couple of disco's on show .. and i actually liked it ! .. seem so spacious inside and i know they are capable offroad. just not sure on the fuel economy even on gas.

On gas it will do better than a GQ.

What about the turbo-diesel rovers??

TDis/TD5s get great economy. I know someone with a TDI disco who could average low 8s (l/100) on the highway (driving like an old person, but still...)

Some others I know with Tdi defenders averaged 10.5-12 L/100 doing the canning (fully loaded with fuel, water, etc...)

Of the two I'd much prefer the TD5 but it may not come in under $9k.

chimpboy wrote:Of the two I'd much prefer the TD5 but it may not come in under $9k.

They are getting down there:


2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5
2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5 2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5 2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5 2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5 2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5
$9,900*
private seller
2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5
1 owner, sound mechanical condition, PRICE NEGOTIABLE, bullbar, winch, snorkel, driving lights, need to sell due to lifestyle changes, Great luxury 4x4 with loads of xtra's and a full service history.

* White
* WAGON
* 5cyl 2.5L Manual
* 283,000 kms

Enquiry
NSW

2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY ES TD5
$9,500*
private seller
2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY ES TD5
Top of the Range Discovery. Twin Elec sunroof, elec heated leather seats, 7 seats.

* Black
* WAGON
* 5cyl 2.5L Auto
* 160,000 kms

Enquiry
VIC

No photos available
$9,900*
private seller
1999 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II TD5
ARB Bullbar, Warne XD9000 winch,Safari snorkel, towbar, cargo barrier, Rhino racks, good condition

* White
* WAGON
* 5cyl 2.5L Manual
* 140,000 kms

Enquiry

has anyone said suzuki???
if its fun and 'capable' your after, id be getting a suzuki!
you could get a damn nice suzi for 10 grand... and for that money it'd even be nice on the road with no ''free air''...

tanz-e wrote:has anyone said suzuki???

Did you check, or are you just asking so you don't have to read page one?

Can't believe i've read 2 pages and not one mention of the LADA niva !!!! can buy three for under 4 grand !!! unstoppable unreliable unrepairable and under achieving what more can you ask from a friendly Russian.
Mate do your self a favor and get one you'll never look back (as you will need all your skills to go forward)

luxoflex wrote:I would highly recomend the Patrol/Maverick for comfort and plus you will get more "Bang for your buck" cruisers are fine but expensive.
Hilux and 4runners are not as comfortable and less power as either of the above choices.
just my 2c

95 v6 4runner i have a lot to do with is just as comfortable as my 93 6cyl 80 series. I think a better car on the beach and around town. Would be hard to choose between the two. obviously 80 series if your looking for more off-road and mods.

I reckon go the GQ or 80 simple to mod. Preferably diesel and there starting to get reasonably cheap. I just bought a GQ wagon TD42 and absolutely love it. Try go for a maverick more comfort features.
My mate has a turbo diesel maverick wagon for sale 6 grand. If i had the cash i would buy it for sure. If your interested give me a call on 0425632020.

beast of a GQ wrote:I reckon go the GQ or 80 simple to mod. Preferably diesel and there starting to get reasonably cheap. I just bought a GQ wagon TD42 and absolutely love it. Try go for a maverick more comfort features.
My mate has a turbo diesel maverick wagon for sale 6 grand. If i had the cash i would buy it for sure. If your interested give me a call on 0425632020.

Mav to patrol makes no difference, only model level. My mate bought a pov pack Mav didn't evan have a tacho.

I wasn't aware that mavericks came that basic. Just the majority i've seen general have a few extra accessories. And yes i no they are just a patrol.

ISUZUROVER wrote:

chimpboy wrote:Of the two I'd much prefer the TD5 but it may not come in under $9k.

They are getting down there:


2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5
2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5 2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5 2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5 2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5 2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5
$9,900*
private seller
2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY TD5
1 owner, sound mechanical condition, PRICE NEGOTIABLE, bullbar, winch, snorkel, driving lights, need to sell due to lifestyle changes, Great luxury 4x4 with loads of xtra's and a full service history.

* White
* WAGON
* 5cyl 2.5L Manual
* 283,000 kms

Enquiry
NSW

2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY ES TD5
$9,500*
private seller
2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II 00.5MY ES TD5
Top of the Range Discovery. Twin Elec sunroof, elec heated leather seats, 7 seats.

* Black
* WAGON
* 5cyl 2.5L Auto
* 160,000 kms

Enquiry
VIC

No photos available
$9,900*
private seller
1999 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II TD5
ARB Bullbar, Warne XD9000 winch,Safari snorkel, towbar, cargo barrier, Rhino racks, good condition

* White
* WAGON
* 5cyl 2.5L Manual
* 140,000 kms

Enquiry

Having insurance that will tow it from anywhere...........Priceless!........

fumduk3 wrote:gq for value or 80 if you want to spend more$$

what he said and others above

be carefull with the maverick as they come out with a drum brake rear diff that you dont want, only in the base pov pack i think

OzTeXs wrote:sorry .. just don't like the look of the rangies .. id prefer to stick with jap technology.

So really the title should read " Most capable Jap fourby wagon under 8k"

OzTeXs wrote:I am back in the market for a 4x4 after 2 1/2 yrs without one. Had to sell my XJ Jeep after my 1st son was born and now that hes old enough to take a hit offroad .. i want to get something practical with offroad capability.

Aside from the "non-Jap" thing, what was the problem with the XJ Capable, practical and bloody cheap

mavzilla wrote:be carefull with the maverick as they come out with a drum brake rear diff that you dont want, only in the base pov pack i think

Patrols are the same too. My bus has drum brakes. PITA.

What ever you do make sure you the car you buy has near new brakes, tyres, suspension etc. Im due to replace all that on my car and its nearly gonna cost me the value of the car itself.

Wooders wrote:

OzTeXs wrote:sorry .. just don't like the look of the rangies .. id prefer to stick with jap technology.

So really the title should read " Most capable Jap fourby wagon under 8k"

OzTeXs wrote:I am back in the market for a 4x4 after 2 1/2 yrs without one. Had to sell my XJ Jeep after my 1st son was born and now that hes old enough to take a hit offroad .. i want to get something practical with offroad capability.

Aside from the "non-Jap" thing, what was the problem with the XJ Capable, practical and bloody cheap

yeah cheap to buy but bloody expensive to run.

changing the welsh plug was a $1000 affair.

fumduk3 wrote:gq for value or 80 if you want to spend more$$

look around i found my mate an 80 series, diesel with aftermarket turbo setup, front bar, brush bars only had 250000kms and had a detroit in the rear and it was $5500 if you look arounf the PRIVATE sales you can find a bargin car yards will mark up!!

Evan

how is more than 3 inch lift unroadworthy?
i have a few mates with 9inch coils in there patrols not to mention my hilux with 2.5bl,extended shackles and 35s we have never had a problem with mechanics,blue slips,pink slips and havent been defected with no engineers cert

tufflux88 wrote:how is more than 3 inch lift unroadworthy?
i have a few mates with 9inch coils in there patrols not to mention my hilux with 2.5bl,extended shackles and 35s we have never had a problem with mechanics,blue slips,pink slips and havent been defected with no engineers cert

Just because it has passed, or you haven't been caught, it doesn't mean its legal.

why would a mechanic that i dont know personally pass it and risk his business?

evanstaniland wrote:

fumduk3 wrote:gq for value or 80 if you want to spend more$$

look around i found my mate an 80 series, diesel with aftermarket turbo setup, front bar, brush bars only had 250000kms and had a detroit in the rear and it was $5500 if you look arounf the PRIVATE sales you can find a bargin car yards will mark up!!

Evan

wow thats a fantastic price for an 80n series !!

howdy all ,

got myself a 80 Series today with 173k on the clock .. auto, 4.5L dual fuel, 11months rego, 33" wranglers, 6" Coil lift on tough dogs.