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it would be cheaper to buy a land cruiser... also vits are designed for smaller motors than rav's you would probably have issues with the drive train. you'd be better setting up some sort of long travel independant setup on your rav ?

No offense but if i wanted a landcruiser, I would buy one!
My partner has a Landcruiser and i dont like them!
I think they are big and bouncy.
So that is why i want to do the RAV the way i want, Its small
and compact and if it can be done legally it will go more
places then the landcruiser! hahaha.
The more people tell me it cant be done and why bother
the more i want to get it done and show everyone it is done.
Where there's a will there's a way!

a extended widened RAV like this one with say bundy diffs under it.IM HARD

I think a whole bundy chasis is the go that way you get 4 coils something closer to the right length and width short nose and wheelbase
also has hilux runng gear ( more suited weight wise)
read diffs and gearbox

you can even bolt a 3s engine either a na( gen 3or beams )or turbo( 3sgte) into the gearbox with the right factory bellhousing they produce more power and torque than sr20 and it is toyota

the only thing against is the year model its easier if they are similar age
i have an 80 series that has a hilux cab fitted with a supra engine so i have been throgh all of this stuff

the trick would be to register it as a bundy then do a cab substitution fitting the rav body and a 3s engine that way no problem with chassis identity
it will be a great thing but it is going to cost a lot if you have to pay some one to do it


all the best

thrashlux wrote:I think a whole bundy chasis is the go that way you get 4 coils something closer to the right length and width short nose and wheelbase
also has hilux runng gear ( more suited weight wise)
read diffs and gearbox

you can even bolt a 3s engine either a na( gen 3or beams )or turbo( 3sgte) into the gearbox with the right bellhousing the produce more power and torque than sr20 and it is toyota

the only thing against is the year model its easier if they are similar age
i have an 80 series that has a hilux cab fitted with a supra engine so i have been throgh all of this stuff

the trick would be to register it as a bundy then do a cab substitution fitting the rav body and a 3s engine that way no problem with chassis identity
it will be a great thing but it is going to cost a lot if you have to pay some one to do it


all the best

Im highly offened buy this comment
Hiluxs have bundy running gear

beinthemud wrote:

thrashlux wrote:I think a whole bundy chasis is the go that way you get 4 coils something closer to the right length and width short nose and wheelbase
also has hilux runng gear ( more suited weight wise)
read diffs and gearbox

you can even bolt a 3s engine either a na( gen 3or beams )or turbo( 3sgte) into the gearbox with the right bellhousing the produce more power and torque than sr20 and it is toyota

the only thing against is the year model its easier if they are similar age
i have an 80 series that has a hilux cab fitted with a supra engine so i have been throgh all of this stuff

the trick would be to register it as a bundy then do a cab substitution fitting the rav body and a 3s engine that way no problem with chassis identity
it will be a great thing but it is going to cost a lot if you have to pay some one to do it


all the best

Im highly offened buy this comment
Hiluxs have bundy running gear

chicken before the egg hey

only an chicken and an egg would put hilux anything in anything,.So must of been bundy first

I agree, but the trouble is actually finding a coil bundy chassis in good nick, which is why I suggested the SWB GQ chassis, probably a few around, parts are easy to get, chassis would be wide providing plenty of room for mods to be done.
I reckon this would have to be one of the coolest ideas for a build Ive heard for a while, but it will cost bit to do properly.
You dont want to halfass this build up thats for sure.

ha ha ha ha ha! Thankyou for the idea of the bundy chassis,,
To me that sounds like less hassle then what the GQ would be!
But as BEINTHEMUD said- you can find more GQ's and probably
in better condition. but i do like the idea! I can only have a look
around an see whats about and what condition there
in.
I wont be paying anybody to do the build up as my partner and
hopefully
my brother will be fully involved in building it.
Im going to try an speak to some engineer's this week an see
what they have to say about it all!
I realize its going to cost alot of money to but i really want to
do it.
But i reckon if it can be done, It will be awesome

ZookStock wrote:The hardest part to get legal would be convincing an engeneer of how to attach a chassis under a body that isn't designed for one.

I'd love to see it done, you will get major respect in Oz if you can pull it off well.

Have a good read through this thread on pirate4x4. This guy went to massive lengths to build this thing, it is the Woodtick build up I mentioned earlier.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514048

Thanks for this!
I seen this about 12 months ago when i was thinking about doing it.
He done a good job on it. but i still want my kids to be able
to sit in the back. So i dont really want all the bar work inside.
Thats at the moment anyway lol hahaha.
I still want it to be light like it is. I understand that once i put
a chassis under it an bigger diff its going to be heavy, but
i would like to still try an keep it as light as possible.

FoxyRav wrote:ha ha ha ha ha! Thankyou for the idea of the bundy chassis,,
To me that sounds like less hassle then what the GQ would be!
But as BEINTHEMUD said- you can find more GQ's and probably
in better condition. but i do like the idea! I can only have a look
around an see whats about and what condition there
in.
I wont be paying anybody to do the build up as my partner and
hopefully
my brother will be fully involved in building it.
Im going to try an speak to some engineer's this week an see
what they have to say about it all!
I realize its going to cost alot of money to but i really want to
do it.
But i reckon if it can be done, It will be awesome

if you like i can keep my eye out for a cheap bundy i spend a lot of time in brisbane as well
i spotted one last month for 2000 bucks looked pretty good

a few months ago there was a good rolling shell at the wreckers at archerfield

cheers

thrashlux

Thankyou to both Thrashlux and zookstock for letting me know
about the Bundera Body's!
I will let my partner know and see what he has to say about them
an i will get back to you's.

Silly question? How do i upload a pic to the post?
I know how to change my display pic but not put one
in the post!

FoxyRav wrote:

Guts wrote:Darren's Rav is about 4 years and I think 1 marriage worth of work and lets not even guess on the $$$ he spent on it.

If I'm not mistaken every single part of the body has been modified in some why to make everything fit n work.

So do you know the RAV in the picture?
Do you know what his done to it to get it to look like that?

Gu diffs, but cut down so not side wide i think.
Coilovers etc






http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg94 ... nt=020.flv


Last time i saw it it had been resprayed and looked like it was going to race offroad racing i think

BushTuckerNed wrote:

FoxyRav wrote:

Guts wrote:Darren's Rav is about 4 years and I think 1 marriage worth of work and lets not even guess on the $$$ he spent on it.

If I'm not mistaken every single part of the body has been modified in some why to make everything fit n work.

So do you know the RAV in the picture?
Do you know what his done to it to get it to look like that?

Gu diffs, but cut down so not side wide i think.
Coilovers etc






http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg94 ... nt=020.flv


Last time i saw it it had been resprayed and looked like it was going to race offroad racing i think

Thankyou so much for sending that pic..
I love it!

it would be an ambitious build, would turn a few heads thats for sure.

to put up pics, Save pictures to Photobucket, then copy and paste the IMG code into your reply on Outers

I think you're dreaming, and that it won't happen.

But feel free to prove me wrong, it would be impressive.

SimonInAustralia wrote:I think you're dreaming, and that it won't happen.

But feel free to prove me wrong, it would be impressive.

Whos dreaming

are there any updates
have you spoken to an engineer yet
i am keen to see this take shape (especially to shut up all the people that say it cant be done)

xbuttlux88doesawesomefabworkandworkchargeyoushitloads

flyinwall wrote:i am keen to see this take shape (especially to shut up all the people that say it cant be done)

Obviously it can be done.

Whether it can be registered in Queensland, and whether it will be actually be done based on the cost and/or amount/complexity of work involved, are the questions.

SimonInAustralia wrote:

flyinwall wrote:i am keen to see this take shape (especially to shut up all the people that say it cant be done)

Obviously it can be done.

Whether it can be registered in Queensland, and whether it will be actually be done based on the cost and/or amount/complexity of work involved, are the questions.

not meaning to offend but.........

if a 1935 chev pickup body can be put on a 60 series chassis with a 350 under the bonnet using a hilux tray can be engineered and regod in QLD i dont see a problem with the RAV4 having a Chassis put under it with much improved running gear (or doing a rebody on a "bundera" with a RAV4 body)

No offence taken, nothing wrong with discussing it from different perspectives.

I said that was a question, not an answer.

I don't know QLD rego rules, and what they allow to be engineered in a more full-on build like this would be, but they seem pretty tight on normal mods.

SimonInAustralia wrote:No offence taken, nothing wrong with discussing it from different perspectives.

I said that was a question, not an answer.

I don't know QLD rego rules, and what they allow to be engineered in a more full-on build like this would be, but they seem pretty tight on normal mods.

theyre not tight on rules, they just have weird ones... i.e. you can run a harness on the road in queensland and not have a seatbelt, but it has to be modplated and an approved harness/mounting points.

you can do most things in queensland legally, you just need to know how to do it and how to word the mods to Queensland Transport

Both these guys should be appladed for dreaming and hopefully doing go for it mate these two have left all of us in there dust .im hard thinking of it

I think she has realised how hard this build is gone cold allready

warm her up for it or just do it then don't let her near it when its done.
When my missus moans about the money spent on the bundy i say thats fine huney ill stop paying for things but when you or the kids want a ride or to go to the forest im charging you by the kilometre she quickly changes her mind

OK to reply to you all.. thinking i have gone
cold on the subject ha ha ha lol lol lol.. I DONT THINK SO.
We have been talking to Queensland transport about it,
they said yes it can be done, they gave us numbers to there
approved engineers.
We gave them a buzz an explained what was happening and they
said they couldn't see a problem in it getting done either.
So now my partner is in the process of planning it all up to
put forward to the engineer to get passed then off the qld transport
for them to approve then off we go..
So far it looks like the GQ is more of a closer fit for chassis wise
rather then the Bundera.. But dont quote me on it as i have to
measure a bundera also.
Thankyou for the people who still think it can be done. and for the
people who dont------ Keep this on watch and you will see.
Its just a case now of finding.
1: a cheap car for me to drive while this gets done.
2: A GQ chassis if i go that or a Bundera... The wreckers said
if they get in a swb gq chassis i can have it for $500. so i thought
that was better then buying a whole bundera for $2500.
Im still debating on the motor to.
At first i wanted a WRX turbo motor but there $2000/2500.
and that the same for the Ls1 to.
So now im thinking just a V6 ecotec with and automatic.
But in saying all that im only going to do this project once
so i want it the best i can get it.

Also i want it to be a good car on road..Zippy and fuel efficient.
And OFF road i want it to go anywhere and every where. just to annoy people.
I want it to look mean but give the false idea that it cant do it
but will do it.

FoxyRav wrote:I want it to look mean but give the false idea that it cant do it
but will do it.

Trust me, if a coiled lifted rav on 35s/36s pulls up near me out in the bush, Ill definately be thinking somethings going on.
The reason why Id use a SWB gq chassis, is because of the ease of finding spares for it. Bundys are not as common as gqs any more.
But my hat goes off to you for taking it this far, and possibly further.
Rememeber, if you start the build, do a build up thread, with heaps of pics.

Ye im with you !dudelux!
There is defently more GQ's then bundera's!
Yes i will defently do up u thread and heaps of pics of how where
doing it.
Im hoping within the next month i can get it started!