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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:25 am
by gonfellon
i ran 34x10.5x16 tsl's on my truck found them good at first but when they worn down they werent very good on road,not to keen on drifting a 2ton truck at 100km on wet corners
but got round 80 thou from them
off road were good but need them round 3lb to make them bog out
i run maxxis now and Imo out preform tsl swampers all round

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:41 pm
by Mick.
SuperiorEngineering wrote:Crap in my opinion and i stick to it.

purchase some trepadores their is no comparison.

TSL's are old technology
I hope they have improved on them. A mate just bought a GQ with them on it. They haven't had much use but are splitting between the blocks. After doing a little research this was a common problem when these tyres where there used on road.

Cheers mick.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:31 am
by bad_religion_au
gonfellon wrote:i ran 34x10.5x16 tsl's on my truck found them good at first but when they worn down they werent very good on road,not to keen on drifting a 2ton truck at 100km on wet corners
but got round 80 thou from them
off road were good but need them round 3lb to make them bog out
i run maxxis now and Imo out preform tsl swampers all round
then slow down? not real smart to run an oversized bias ply offroad tread pattern that fast round corners in the wet

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:38 pm
by gonfellon
thought that after seen the faces in the two on coming cars as i drifted past them under full lock and foot flat.and the perment finger prints in the dash from my wife.
havnt had the problem with the maxxis in the wet .yet!
kind off thought if the swampers were good on rocks they
shouldnt off had no problem on the road with traction in the wet
guess i was wrong and i chalked that one up to (things not to do with tsl's)

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:25 pm
by SuperiorEngineering
Their are many reasons why tsl are not real good but one that realy stands out is the rubber is such a hard duro they need to be so low in pressure to get any real traction, i am not talking just general 4wding but on decent stuff like step ups and offcamber
When using the low pressure to try and get them to wrap around rocks or just get traction you then have the next problem of not being a good steering tire , tires like trepadores and similar you can get more wrapping effect and far better handling with mid 20 psi pressure than tsl'd with 3 pound in them.
Any one who has never touched a trepadore imagine grabbing the lugs and sqeezing them together , that is how soft they are.

I ask the guys who say they are great have you tried tires like trepadores ?

They are certainly a fat looking tire but they are just to hard a rubber .

In mud they work well but so do a lot of other tires.
I run boggers for one season because Team DGR raved how good they were, they had a lot of cut work done to the tires with a groover on there lux but when i changed to trepadores they were soon to follow and they said they would never go back to boggers.

One good thing about TSL's is they are so hard you will only ever by one set and they will last for years, expect to replace softer tires more frequently.

Just my experience. ;)