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A 13b doesnt have a cam smart arse.

as for webbers i will most likely be getting a quad webber manifold for the rover and fitting webber injection to overcome the issues with angles and carbies.

big_slart wrote:A 13b doesnt have a cam smart arse.

as for webbers i will most likely be getting a quad webber manifold for the rover and fitting webber injection to overcome the issues with angles and carbies.

WHOOOSHH!

Rainbow Warrior wrote:I love those quick change uni joints, also dump the fuel injection crap and just fit tripple webbers and a 13B cam to the LS9, and if you are experiencing problems with burning the valves I'd run red slurpee injection. All the serious rigs nowdays are running 10 speed Shimano derailer transfer cases and unlimited slip diffs and dually 9.00x16's

Holy crap, they are quick change unis!

Actually I browsing the GM Performance catalogue with a jar of Vaso and I noticed the LS9 makes SFA bottom and mid torque in comparison to the N/A LS motors. It then goes nuts at the top end.

Big-slart check out the 20b's bottom end torque, it may not be what you want for a 4WD. Also you may find the webber setup doesn't work as well for bottom end torque in comparison to a factory manifold or even the latter Land Rover Thor manifolds. These will limit top end power though.

You might also talk to Eastern WheelWorks about rims for a duel setup. They can probably do rims that are offset to outside of the rim area and then maybe run these back to back which is how trucks might be??? I'd imagine these to be heaps cheaper than Walker Evans.

bigslart skid steers the bomb. Wheels on the left go forward and wheels on the right go backwards and you turn. Its very very seemless in its action and you be able to work nicely for you when you travel down the M1 at 100 clicks expecially with big meats on.

Rainbow Warrior wrote:
I love those quick change uni joints, also dump the fuel injection crap and just fit tripple webbers and a 13B cam to the LS9, and if you are experiencing problems with burning the valves I'd run red slurpee injection. All the serious rigs nowdays are running 10 speed Shimano derailer transfer cases and unlimited slip diffs and dually 9.00x16's

jimmyb wrote:bigslart skid steers the bomb. Wheels on the left go forward and wheels on the right go backwards and you turn. Its very very seemless in its action and you be able to work nicely for you when you travel down the M1 at 100 clicks expecially with big meats on.

this is a engineering dream - i might get on to my mate tom at hot wheels to see if he is interested in making a 1/64 diecast replica

really what build would be complete without:

Thanks for all the help everyone, But it wont need a flux capicator or any of that sort of thing its not a delorean its a jeep.

Please be constructive and help me, this is my first four wheel drive project and i want to make it work.

big_slart wrote:Thanks for all the help everyone, But it wont need a flux capicator or any of that sort of thing its not a delorean its a jeep.

Please be constructive and help me, this is my first four wheel drive project and i want to make it work.

ok then dont ask stupid questions or you will get flamed
start small learn to dirve well (a good driver in a stocker can out drive alot of moded cars)
and only mod as you go
and most importantly learn to use the search function

big_slart wrote: its not a delorean its a jeep.

Sorry but an Asia Rocsta is not and never will be a Jeep.

I think you're starting with the wrong vehicle for your first hardcore 4WD.

The RocstaJeep is way too much 4x4 for a beginner.

Perhaps start with something simple like a Patrol. Sure, they're not that good offroad. And you're going to have to make a few lifestyle changes.
Like, pulling a few front teeth out (getting them smashed out is way cooler). Start wearing thongs and flanno's everywhere (Really old stubbie shorts are also cool).

But, all you need to make a Patrol capable of doing some firetrails and beach trails is some rattle can black rims, a set of bighorns and 200 or so supercheap lights. (just rip the muffler off, and drive everywhere at 4000 rpm to be really cool!).

Of course you could also apply the above to LandCruisers, Hilux's as well

gq patrols on simexs are where its at and are the pinnacle of hardcore wheeling the only car more capable is a patrol on simexes that has simes tread pattern stickers up the side of it

big_slart wrote:Thanks for all the help everyone, But it wont need a flux capicator or any of that sort of thing its not a delorean its a jeep.

Please be constructive and help me, this is my first four wheel drive project and i want to make it work.

Sorry. Is this better?

Maybe you should start with this?

is that one of those flexy coil sprung ironing boards i have heard about???

boggedjeeper wrote:

Maybe you should start with this?

Toyota F250 with the Tonka kit. Didn't that place in Tough Truck last year? I still think he should have run the 20" spinners instead of the 26" chromies.

Swampers and transfer cases are sooooo 2010, next years tuff trucks will have a bit more of a high tech advantage



combustion engines are a thing of the past with these

simple pressof a button and this happens

This is very discouraging, I come here asking for advice not to be mocked. If you have nothing constructive to add then please just leave it.

After looking at some of the people whos posted own vehicles i would not be mocking anyone elses ideas.

I have sat down and spoken to TW and to discuss it and a build plan is now in place, thanks to their advice. I came to realise some of collins advice was not very good in regards to the earlier diff choices so i wont be dealing with him now.

Jeep Rocsta
solid dana 60 diffs front and rear
TW will be making me some custom long arms and getting coils made to suit, the patrol and cruiser people i spoke to all advocate 10 inch lifts and bodylifts but will be trying to keep it low as possible as they dont know what they are talking about.
Rover 3.5 alloy v8 stroked out to 4 litres on gas
atlas 4:1 transfer
ford c10 auto
and looking at 40 inch tyres

After reflecting on it, i have decided a cheque book build is the way to go as i dont have the time to get this finished in a year so will be handled entirely by TW, and solid.

You rude people will be eating your words at tuff truck next year thats for sure.

Big cheque book

why are you calling a rocsta a jeep?

big_slart wrote:This is very discouraging, I come here asking for advice not to be mocked. If you have nothing constructive to add then please just leave it.

After looking at some of the people whos posted own vehicles i would not be mocking anyone elses ideas.

I have sat down and spoken to TW and to discuss it and a build plan is now in place, thanks to their advice. I came to realise some of collins advice was not very good in regards to the earlier diff choices so i wont be dealing with him now.

Jeep Rocsta
solid dana 60 diffs front and rear
TW will be making me some custom long arms and getting coils made to suit, the patrol and cruiser people i spoke to all advocate 10 inch lifts and bodylifts but will be trying to keep it low as possible as they dont know what they are talking about.
Rover 3.5 alloy v8 stroked out to 4 litres on gas
atlas 4:1 transfer
ford c10 auto
and looking at 40 inch tyres

After reflecting on it, i have decided a cheque book build is the way to go as i dont have the time to get this finished in a year so will be handled entirely by TW, and solid.

You rude people will be eating your words at tuff truck next year thats for sure.

Bwwhhaaaha....

bwahhahah...haah.hahahahaha.bbwwhhahaaaa...muwahaeeeaaaahhaha..

SOLID = tough truck 2020 maybe!

Lets hope your cheque book is a big one, and can repair your shit when it breaks...

oh yeah...

bwwhahwbbahahhhhaahhahahhaaaaahhahahahahahahahahahaha

I want to see Colin build his own Tuff Truck

big_slart wrote:This is very discouraging, I come here asking for advice not to be mocked. If you have nothing constructive to add then please just leave it.

After looking at some of the people whos posted own vehicles i would not be mocking anyone elses ideas.

I have sat down and spoken to TW and to discuss it and a build plan is now in place, thanks to their advice. I came to realise some of collins advice was not very good in regards to the earlier diff choices so i wont be dealing with him now.

Jeep Rocsta
solid dana 60 diffs front and rear
TW will be making me some custom long arms and getting coils made to suit, the patrol and cruiser people i spoke to all advocate 10 inch lifts and bodylifts but will be trying to keep it low as possible as they dont know what they are talking about.
Rover 3.5 alloy v8 stroked out to 4 litres on gas
atlas 4:1 transfer
ford c10 auto
and looking at 40 inch tyres

After reflecting on it, i have decided a cheque book build is the way to go as i dont have the time to get this finished in a year so will be handled entirely by TW, and solid.

You rude people will be eating your words at tuff truck next year thats for sure.

Why do all this to a Rocsta? Seems like a bizarre choice of vehicle when you could get a real Jeep and buy off the shelf longarms and off the shelf dana 60's ready to bolt in, if you're for real you are just making it so much harder for yourself starting with a Rocsta. Oh, and instead of boring out a Rover 3.5 maybe stick in P76 4.4lt V8 with Rover heads on it. Or, go with a TJ and put in a stroker motor (4.7lt), stock gearbox, bolt up Atlas and bolt in diffs and longarms.

Cheers
Steve

I agree, I really wouldn't bore out a 3.5 Rover when for very little more you can just buy a 3.9 V8 (which is the same capacity as the 4.0 V8). Rather than fart around, many of the Rock Crawlers were running the ZF and LT230 that came behind the Rover V8 and just added a crawler gear to the transfer. I think Sam has previously said 1350 unis and then the strength in the D60, propshafts and LT230 are all very similar. It just sounds like you're spending dosh where you dont need to.

I guess collin can be relieved that he won't have to deal with your shyt then
Sounds like the only thing bigger than your cheque book is your imagination

the first step of vehicle modification is knowing WTF you own.

An Asia motors Rocksta is not a Jeep, it is as far from a Jeep a sponge is to a hospital patient, they may touch each other briefly but thats about as far as it goes.

dobbo wrote:the first step of vehicle modification is knowing WTF you own.

An Asia motors Rocksta is not a Jeep, it is as far from a Jeep a sponge is to a hospital patient, they may touch each other briefly but thats about as far as it goes.

LOL

A Rocsta touched my Jeep!! I feel DIRTY

big_slart wrote:Hi i am building a jeep rocsta to tackle tough truck next year.

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This is my first project 4wd so any advice would be appreciated.

dude, if you think that the fawkers on here are not helpful, then it may be worth joining up and posting here:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/

Slunnie wrote:

big_slart wrote:Hi i am building a jeep rocsta to tackle tough truck next year.

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This is my first project 4wd so any advice would be appreciated.

dude, if you think that the fawkers on here are not helpful, then it may be worth joining up and posting here:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/

yes thats a good word of advice their

Hey.... It aint a Jeep. So whats this doing in the Jeep forum.
With a rover engine it should be in the Rover Forum.
Thankfully it is in the Jeep forum otherwise I wouldnt have seen it.
Anyway some really good ideas are coming to the surface with this build.
Dana 70 duallies at both ends with skid steer. Unimprovable turnig circle, unimprovable traction(unless you go tank trax) (8x14inch wide tyres= 112 inches of ground contact)
But wait................................................................
WTF you gonna do with your MOMO steering wheel? Wanna sell it?

i don't think he's gonna come back