Outer Limits 4x4 Board

ANGRY6 wrote:There was no mention that cost was to be taken into account, so i vote 200 series Landcruiser. Something like 680mm of wheel travel and that crawl control system and KDSS AND V8! I'd have one in a heartbeat!


Daniel

And a front diff weaker than wet toilet paper.

If we are talking Bog Stock straight out of the showroom there is nothing better than the late TD 80 seriers Sahara.


How anyone can compare a new cruiser ute or wagon is beyond me. They may be ok but they were still designed in the late 80s. and this shows with the interior even with the new update they are not much better comfort wise.

Black Bull wrote:a Bundera

Well there we have it ..... The TD 80 series Sahara may just be the best Toyota 4wd ever built as far as an offroader goes, with enough fruit to keep all types happy.

Now the Question beggers..... Can Toyota go one better and make a more cofortable, more refined, power happy, fuel effecient , offroad weapon.

muddylux wrote:Well there we have it ..... The TD 80 series Sahara may just be the best Toyota 4wd ever built as far as an offroader goes, with enough fruit to keep all types happy.

Now the Question beggers..... Can Toyota go one better and make a more cofortable, more refined, power happy, fuel effecient , offroad weapon.

Probably not considering IFS and IRS is the way it is going and their focus is not offroad but onroad and overall sales which is the mums shopping trolly.

4.5 80 series

muddylux wrote:Well there we have it ..... The TD 80 series Sahara may just be the best Toyota 4wd ever built as far as an offroader goes, with enough fruit to keep all types happy.

Now the Question beggers..... Can Toyota go one better and make a more cofortable, more refined, power happy, fuel effecient , offroad weapon.

Nope, there we have the 'best factory coil sprung Toyota'
NOT
'the best Toyota 4WD'.......

RUFF wrote:
How anyone can compare a new cruiser ute or wagon is beyond me. They may be ok but they were still designed in the late 80s. and this shows with the interior even with the new update they are not much better comfort wise.

I think you're just too fussy.

Why someone wants pure luxury on the inside of an offroad car? I suppose those same people want 'runners' alongside their wagon when they go off road, so they don't have to get out and get their shoes dirty.

I don't think you'll find too many unhappy new 70 series owners. Probably because they have a solid axle, factory locked truck that will perform as good as a 15 year old 80 series sahara with 300k + on the clock that its worth half of a new 70.

I love the 80 but for me here now its the LJ77 the 4 door with factory lockers and 3.0 diesel

oldmate wrote:

RUFF wrote:
How anyone can compare a new cruiser ute or wagon is beyond me. They may be ok but they were still designed in the late 80s. and this shows with the interior even with the new update they are not much better comfort wise.

I think you're just too fussy.

Why someone wants pure luxury on the inside of an offroad car? I suppose those same people want 'runners' alongside their wagon when they go off road, so they don't have to get out and get their shoes dirty.

I don't think you'll find too many unhappy new 70 series owners. Probably because they have a solid axle, factory locked truck that will perform as good as a 15 year old 80 series sahara with 300k + on the clock that its worth half of a new 70.

Well if it peforms the same and is half the price. I know what id be buying.

Well there we have it ..... The TD 80 series Sahara may just be the best Toyota 4wd ever built as far as an offroader goes, with enough fruit to keep all types happy.

lets not get so hasty best 4wd toyota has produced dosen't sound right.
maybe best 4wd produced is better.

RUFF wrote:

ANGRY6 wrote:There was no mention that cost was to be taken into account, so i vote 200 series Landcruiser. Something like 680mm of wheel travel and that crawl control system and KDSS AND V8! I'd have one in a heartbeat!


Daniel

And a front diff weaker than wet toilet paper.

If we are talking Bog Stock straight out of the showroom there is nothing better than the late TD 80 seriers Sahara.


How anyone can compare a new cruiser ute or wagon is beyond me. They may be ok but they were still designed in the late 80s. and this shows with the interior even with the new update they are not much better comfort wise.

most people up here with the new utes have said they are not as comfortable as thier old 75 as there is less cabin space with the interior update

Ive driven both, and its a CRAPLOAD more comfy in the 79's.

The 09 update interiors are a very nice place to be for a working truck, and ive only had experience with poverty packs!

muddylux wrote:Well there we have it ..... The TD 80 series Sahara may just be the best Toyota 4wd ever built as far as an offroader goes, with enough fruit to keep all types happy.

Now the Question beggers..... Can Toyota go one better and make a more cofortable, more refined, power happy, fuel effecient , offroad weapon.

That was some topgear speak right there.

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote: i cant see how a factory locked Turbo Diesel can be beaten really?

by a a factory locked injected petrol

bad_religion_au wrote:

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote: i cant see how a factory locked Turbo Diesel can be beaten really?

by a a factory locked injected petrol

Agreed

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Now the Question beggers..... Can Toyota go one better and make a more cofortable, more refined, power happy, fuel effecient , offroad weapon.


No..
the td 80 for me.....

What your asking for is a factory built ...off road ready, street cofortable 4x4 with balls......

No such animal... to get that YOU have to fix it to your own specs