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Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:48 am
by slosh
I think the 80 auto is same as 60 (a440), the diesel one is not electronic. Wholesale automatic do some shift kit/ valve body thing thats recommended and the torque converter needs mod so a few $ there. To set up an auto properly seems a lot of $$ to me, as only the t400, 4l80 or possibly Cruiser are the only ones that would last. Last time I checked years ago a worked t700 was worth $5k or so and that was less than it cost for the others.
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:25 pm
by DAZ
Frankenyota wrote:Did you look into marlin crawler toybox?
It's a hilux transfer between the gearbox and landcruiser transfer.
Low range 2.28 standard hilux.
Only down side is it may need 2 adapters.
http://www.marlincrawler.com/transfer-c ... nsfer-case" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Matt
no i didnt wouldnt a hilux box be to light duty?
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:16 pm
by bad_religion_au
The rover stuff advantage isn't just the stronger T case, it gives you 3.5:1 lowrange factory (more if you want to drop tranny gears in), which is as good as you'll get with a set ofaftermarket reduction toyota transfer gears.
the auto isn't that weak i'm led to believe, there's a few people running LS1's in front of them from what i can tell. and you can convert the cases to part time operation too.
there occasionally is ford C4 auto's with toyota split case transfers pop up really cheap on ebay, and there are plenty of C4-chev 350 bellhousings available. C4 is a stout auto.
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:08 pm
by DAZ
bad_religion_au wrote:The rover stuff advantage isn't just the stronger T case, it gives you 3.5:1 lowrange factory (more if you want to drop tranny gears in), which is as good as you'll get with a set ofaftermarket reduction toyota transfer gears.
the auto isn't that weak i'm led to believe, there's a few people running LS1's in front of them from what i can tell. and you can convert the cases to part time operation too.
there occasionally is ford C4 auto's with toyota split case transfers pop up really cheap on ebay, and there are plenty of C4-chev 350 bellhousings available. C4 is a stout auto.
I would consider a turbo 400 with toyota split case if one came up b4 the C4. I had a C4 in the 80 it worked ok after i had it rebuilt espesily inlow range with the tranny gears. 1st hi was to hi though
If the right rover unit comes up i will consider it, Im going to do my canopy etc first and put the gearbox off as long as i can in hope that somthing might pop up.
Cheers
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:27 pm
by Frankenyota
Only use the front reduction section of the transfer.
You can also upgrade the input shaft on the hilux transfer if concerned about strength, the rover transfers seemed to be strong from what people say.
Rover 3.5 : 1
Toyota 2 :28 x 2 :1 = 4.56 : 1
The dual case will add 6.5" of length to the drive train also, so if that is an issue the rover single case would be better.
Matt
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:38 pm
by DAZ
Frankenyota wrote:Only use the front reduction section of the transfer.
You can also upgrade the input shaft on the hilux transfer if concerned about strength, the rover transfers seemed to be strong from what people say.
Rover 3.5 : 1
Toyota 2 :28 x 2 :1 = 4.56 : 1
The dual case will add 6.5" of length to the drive train also, so if that is an issue the rover single case would be better.
Matt
Longer the better. Are you talking about the marlin toybox or twin60 case? Keen to pick your barins
do you know where to purchase these and costs??
cheers Daz
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:24 am
by Frankenyota
The toybox with the landcruiser 5 speed. As far as i know it's new and they have no pricing on there website.
You could email Marlin for prices and strength behind the 350 chev.
It may depend on how much power the 350 puts out.
Not sure if Marlin has an Australian distributor, i think OPW?
http://www.marlincrawler.com/transfer-c ... al-t/cases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At least with duals you can still have standard low and low low
Matt
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:24 pm
by DAZ
Frankenyota wrote:The toybox with the landcruiser 5 speed. As far as i know it's new and they have no pricing on there website.
You could email Marlin for prices and strength behind the 350 chev.
It may depend on how much power the 350 puts out.
Not sure if Marlin has an Australian distributor, i think OPW?
http://www.marlincrawler.com/transfer-c ... al-t/cases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At least with duals you can still have standard low and low low
Matt
have emailed them will see what comes up. Thanks will keep you posted
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:33 pm
by DAZ
update; No reply to my email from marlin. I will phone OPW tomorrow maybe they can help with twin case or toybox if it is an option?
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:06 am
by Frankenyota
Didn't have any luck with emails to either of the two.
Matt
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:22 am
by DAZ
Frankenyota wrote:Didn't have any luck with emails to either of the two.
Matt
Marlin never replied
I email OPW only 4pm yesterday but i called and spoke to a Peter this morning. He asked if i was the one that emailed. He is able to get the items i am after and even stocks some of there products but i think they are hilux items. He is going to find out my options including prices and get back to me. Hopfully all the news is good and not to expensive. Will update for those interested when i here somthing
cheers Daz
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:14 pm
by DAZ
DAZ wrote:Frankenyota wrote:Didn't have any luck with emails to either of the two.
Matt
Marlin never replied
I email OPW only 4pm yesterday but i called and spoke to a Peter this morning. He asked if i was the one that emailed. He is able to get the items i am after and even stocks some of there products but i think they are hilux items. He is going to find out my options including prices and get back to me. Hopfully all the news is good and not to expensive. Will update for those interested when i here somthing
cheers Daz
To close this thread off i never herd back from Marlin or OPW i bought a 60 series auto off ebay 100% complete from shifter to flex plate and was going to have work done to it with touque converter and valve body etc but it did not turn out to be 100% complete
cost was just going to get way out of control.
I dropped off a 5 speed to the local 4wd shop yesterday. I pulled it out of a 60 i wrecked out and wanted to have its condition checked out before i handed over the $$$ for a set of reduction gears. I ordered a set of reduction gears from Marks 4wd adaptors today after i got a call from the 4wd shop saying the 5 speed has recently had a full rebuild and it appears to be in very good condition.
thanks for the input cheers Daz
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:22 pm
by locktup4x4
I was just on the phone with Marlin yesterday. We are thinking of bringing in a couple of Toy Boxes to fit the H55F. He was saying the can build them in several different configurations.
Jason
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:39 pm
by Z()LTAN
Is that right Jason?
mmmmm
sounds good
Re: reduction gears, auto or landcruiser 5 speed?
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:29 pm
by DAZ
locktup4x4 wrote:I was just on the phone with Marlin yesterday. We are thinking of bringing in a couple of Toy Boxes to fit the H55F. He was saying the can build them in several different configurations.
Jason
To late for me sorry, i ordered y gears at 3.45pm yesterday and they arrived before 9am today got to be happy with that
cheers Daz