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Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:20 pm
by colinwhirlpool
OK. Christmas is over. Onto the important stuff.....
Where is this up to? Is there pictures of heat exchanger? Pump location? Do you run the heat exchanger pump always or on a temperature sensor?
Cheers,
Col,
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:38 pm
by 302 cruiser
yea i am keen to find out what is happening
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:34 am
by shadownfire
Hi im definatly intrested in getting one once you sort them out.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:53 am
by old ed
Five weeks and no new posts! What's happening, or did you get washed away?
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:38 am
by colinwhirlpool
old ed wrote:Five weeks and no new posts! What's happening, or did you get washed away?
I've given up and have started making my own.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:59 am
by Turboshop
Hey sorry guys, it has been on the back burner. I have been flat out trying to meet other impossible deadlines.
The kits for the 80series are great, lots of room. But the 75series I have run into dramas with mounting the heat exchanger, there just aint much room. I am guessing that a lot of you guys would run it on the tray anyways???
Once again sorry for the lack of updates, the project just got pushed aside due to being over booked. I am hoping to get everything finished and get these things on the market real soon.
Thanks for following, I appreciate the interest that is being generated.
Regards,
Luke.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:05 am
by lshobie
Hi there, yes I mount my heat exchanger in the tray. Any update on these? I could really use one in my HZJ79
Let me know please!
louis
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:25 pm
by Northside 4x4
We already produce water to air and air to air solutions for 75,76,78,79,80,100,200s cruiser.
Each kit is tested to the limit on the dyno and all logged data is sifted through to determin the happy medium between packaging, size, cost, reliability and performance.
Radiator sizing depends on the application.
They arent the cheapest kits you can buy but the intercooler cores we use are about the best you can buy. Not these cheap chinese ebay ripoffs.
I dont believe anyone else has tested a chinese core vs good quality, or they would see why its a waste of time using them.
200S
1HD-FTE 100s
1HD-FTE 100s
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:15 pm
by Z()LTAN
They look awesome!
Although i found the greatest improvement by removing the bottleneck into the intake manifold.
Perhaps sell a kit with a modified manifold thats still a bolt on. Make the inlet to the manifold atleast 80% its length or the total end size of the core used.
Ps; you need to advertise. No one has even seen your coolers b4.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:06 pm
by lshobie
I don't see any info on your website - like pricing and availability. Do you have a 79 series intercooler ready to go?
Thanks
Louis
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:15 am
by Northside 4x4
@ Z()LTAN - We have done a bit of testing on the manifold, and it wasn't cost effective to sell the kit with the modified intake manifold such as the TD42 kit.
The gains we got out of it didnt justify the additional price for the kits.
Never really had the need to advertise, people seek us out to build kits like this for them. But we are starting to get a little bit of advertising out there now.
@ lshobie - Website still has alot of info missing from it at the moment sorry. We do have 79's 1HZ/1HDT kits available though.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:44 am
by codyprince
got a ballpark price on the 1hz kit?
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:04 pm
by Northside 4x4
Just under 3K for the full kit mate.
Hopefully we can get the price down as we are moving from full billet end tanks to cast items soon.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:27 pm
by ChaChi
long time no posts! whats happening with this thread ? how are the coolers coming along ?
im still interested in a kit for my 75 series 1hz also would like to see dyno sheets
cheers chachi
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:32 pm
by Z()LTAN
I also just bought a new VDJ79 and im looking at doing a few lil things to the engine!
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:10 pm
by Northside 4x4
I can get some dyno graphs up next week for you guys.
Kits will be available again in 2 weeks time.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:31 am
by TheBigBoy
3K?!?
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:26 pm
by Z()LTAN
TheBigBoy wrote:3K?!?
Your kidding yaself if you think you could get something like this built for less.
If you did it all yourself maby but thats not real easy...
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:30 pm
by ChaChi
TheBigBoy wrote:3K?!?
X2 mate bit out of my budget..
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:32 pm
by ChaChi
Z()LTAN wrote:TheBigBoy wrote:3K?!?
Your kidding yaself if you think you could get something like this built for less.
If you did it all yourself maby but thats not real easy...
turboshop was saying something around 1500 mark although not as big but fuck alot cheaper
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:33 pm
by ChaChi
northside quoted me $3495 fitted.. thats for a 75 series 1hz
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:49 pm
by Z()LTAN
U have to realize there is alot more to these w/a intercoolers than basic A/A ones.
Pumps, wiring, fans hoses all adds up fast.
Those barrel type intercoolers are about as useful as putting a bag of ice on your engine.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:52 pm
by Northside 4x4
Its not built to budget sorry guys, everything I use in the kit is the best available product out there. If something isnt readily available, we make it.
Take the manifold to intercooler adaptor for example, its solid billet cnc machined alloy. No other kit has anything even resembling a decent air path into the manifold.
So its not for everyone, but you have to admit its a nice looking bit of gear right?
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:44 pm
by Z()LTAN
Very nice.
Which is the only reason im contemplating getting one from you guys for the new car
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:56 pm
by TheBigBoy
Great looking and very well built intercooler. Just 1 of those things though... The amount of money I would spend on the 1hdt. It would just be cheaper to bomb a LS2 and fit that. I dont want to do that though, and I just couldnt justify spending that kind of money.
Im such a tight ass zoltan, I would have a crack at my own intercooler
Just got a new welder and mandrel bender. Bring on the ali gun
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:32 pm
by Northside 4x4
Z()LTAN wrote:Very nice.
Which is the only reason im contemplating getting one from you guys for the new car
Good to hear mate
BigBoy - Its good to see members having a crack at designing intercooler systems.
The only thing you have to take into consideration is..
Make sure the core you buy is a proper water/air (not a boxed in air/air)
The heat exchanger/radiator is big enough for your particular use (radiators out of a 4cyl petrol car often work well)
Most important is, smooth airflow in and out of the intercooler. No sharp edges, no radical bends etc..
I look forward to you sharing your creation with us.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:03 pm
by TheBigBoy
hang on, hang on. 1 project at a time northside
.
List of Questions for you -
Why are there no hybrids?
How does moisture and condensation affect ratio's? going from hot to cold.
How crazy does the idea of a front mount with the pipes running to and from it incased inside another larger mandrel bent pipe and charged with super cold non flamable gas. Wrapped to avoid heat soak. And some fins in certain places to chill the core of the pipe and help spiral the air on the internal corners.
And for the smarties out there you bend the larger pipe exact same and then cut it down the guts and reweld it around the smaller pipe with spacers.
Ill shut up and finish my beer now.
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:12 am
by Z()LTAN
i think you just broke your thinking cap
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:28 pm
by RED60
Northside 4x4 wrote:Z()LTAN wrote:Very nice.
Which is the only reason im contemplating getting one from you guys for the new car
Good to hear mate
BigBoy - Its good to see members having a crack at designing intercooler systems.
The only thing you have to take into consideration is..
Make sure the core you buy is a proper water/air (not a boxed in air/air)
The heat exchanger/radiator is big enough for your particular use (radiators out of a 4cyl petrol car often work well)
Most important is, smooth airflow in and out of the intercooler. No sharp edges, no radical bends etc..
I look forward to you sharing your creation with us.
How do you tell whether an intercooler is a proper a/w and not a boxed a/a...
......and slightly off topic...... also I see in other threads in the Nissan section that TD42/T intake manifolds are restrictive to some cylinders (cyl nos 1 and 6 in particular I would imagine). How was this done?... on a flow bench with the manifold on the head or by some other method.... also do the Toyotas suffer from the intake manifold restrictions like Nissans...has anyone done these types of calculations on the 2H/12HT and does anyone do the cut the top off the toyo manifold and add intercooler like has been done on the Nissans..
Re: Water to air intercoolers
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:47 pm
by Z()LTAN
i have, see my earlier posts in this thread.