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Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:37 am
by djroberts
Dual calipers with solid disk??

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:36 am
by turbo gu
Only thing with duals you could run cutting brakes on 1 set and normal brakes on the other but no real point :?

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:38 am
by tehekho
turbo gu wrote:Only thing with duals you could run cutting brakes on 1 set and normal brakes on the other but no real point :?
Wouldn't you just plumb cutting brakes inline anyway?

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:56 am
by turbo gu
tehekho wrote:
turbo gu wrote:Only thing with duals you could run cutting brakes on 1 set and normal brakes on the other but no real point :?
Wouldn't you just plumb cutting brakes inline anyway?
You would thats why I said no real point doing it :finger:

As mentioned you would need to fark around with master cylinders to get the brakes to work with 6 calipers.

might be a gee up. or like driving thru gravity :rofl:

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:48 pm
by tehekho
turbo gu wrote:
tehekho wrote:
turbo gu wrote:Only thing with duals you could run cutting brakes on 1 set and normal brakes on the other but no real point :?
Wouldn't you just plumb cutting brakes inline anyway?
You would thats why I said no real point doing it :finger:

As mentioned you would need to fark around with master cylinders to get the brakes to work with 6 calipers.

might be a gee up. or like driving thru gravity :rofl:
Perhaps it'll work if he uses blue brake lines? :armsup:

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:06 pm
by 91Mav
If you do decide to keep both calipers, you'll need to use the right side caliper on the rear of the left hub and the left caliper on the rear of the right hub as the calipers have different sized pistons.

Nice axle mate.

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:07 pm
by Shadow
dual calipers might be a good idea on the front, but a total waste on the rear IMO.

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:16 pm
by Bentzook
I decided to stay with the single calipers for the rear, just to keep in standard setup.

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:38 am
by Bentzook
:D

Finally rolled the diff back into place, linked up, added the coil-overs back in to set the ride height. Ive actually lowered the ride height by 6", going to add some bump stops this time. Allowed enough space to turn the 38"+ tyres when chassis narrowing, all starting to take shape. Now to lengthen the front by 4"



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Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:37 am
by PacMan
Wow - nice work!

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:19 pm
by V.W.Dave
redzook wrote:why would you want dual calipers? singles pull up every car i have built fine

seems like all you would be doin is making yourself use a bigger master cylinder to pump more fluid
Could set one up as a park brake or as cut brakes. You could set them up using fluid instead of a cable with a second small reservoir kind of like for clutch reservoir. A lot of the drift boys do that. It makes it so you always have a working brake even when your normal brake fluid gets hot or over heats. Its a lot of work but its different and would be really cool to have all 4 corners under different control. 4 wheel steer with 4 wheel independent brakes

You didn't take you to long to get that done. You only picked that diff up from me 3 weeks ago.

But can I ask how the rear is going to work at full flex? With the set up you have the coil overs are going to hit the chassis. You need to find a way to loose the chassis between the coil over hoops or loos the rear half of the chassis all together. If you outboard the top of the coilover any further then they are now you will loos flex and it will bind up the entire set up.

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:36 pm
by Shadow
V.W.Dave wrote:
redzook wrote:why would you want dual calipers? singles pull up every car i have built fine

seems like all you would be doin is making yourself use a bigger master cylinder to pump more fluid
Could set one up as a park brake or as cut brakes. You could set them up using fluid instead of a cable with a second small reservoir kind of like for clutch reservoir. A lot of the drift boys do that. It makes it so you always have a working brake even when your normal brake fluid gets hot or over heats. Its a lot of work but its different and would be really cool to have all 4 corners under different control. 4 wheel steer with 4 wheel independent brakes

controling all that while trying to race would be impossible?

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:46 pm
by V.W.Dave
Shadow wrote:
V.W.Dave wrote:
redzook wrote:why would you want dual calipers? singles pull up every car i have built fine

seems like all you would be doin is making yourself use a bigger master cylinder to pump more fluid
Could set one up as a park brake or as cut brakes. You could set them up using fluid instead of a cable with a second small reservoir kind of like for clutch reservoir. A lot of the drift boys do that. It makes it so you always have a working brake even when your normal brake fluid gets hot or over heats. Its a lot of work but its different and would be really cool to have all 4 corners under different control. 4 wheel steer with 4 wheel independent brakes

controling all that while trying to race would be impossible?
Just because you have it dosn't mean you have to use it all the time. Having cut brakes on a 4 wheel steer car it would be kind of crazy. Having cut brakes on the front would be good on thinks like runs like the marbles at TT to help push your rear end over.

Re: How to : Toyota Rear Steer

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:04 am
by redzook
V.W.Dave wrote:
redzook wrote:why would you want dual calipers? singles pull up every car i have built fine

seems like all you would be doin is making yourself use a bigger master cylinder to pump more fluid
Could set one up as a park brake or as cut brakes. You could set them up using fluid instead of a cable with a second small reservoir kind of like for clutch reservoir. A lot of the drift boys do that. It makes it so you always have a working brake even when your normal brake fluid gets hot or over heats. Its a lot of work but its different and would be really cool to have all 4 corners under different control. 4 wheel steer with 4 wheel independent brakes
you dont need dual calipers to have 4 wheel independent braking
my old buggy i could brake any wheel i wanted too independently big waste of time