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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:08 am
by moose
to all those concerned ....
if you want reports on how well the mazda springs work ?
try talking to the proprieters of a certain company ,
with an "angry meat eating fish" as there name !!
as for my personal experience,s ...
it rides (on & off road) & flex,s better than it ever has !!!
(will flex even better with longer shocks & rupper bush,s)
thats with the 808,s up front & the 323 out back !!
SPUA configeration !!
standard packs , straight from pick-a-part !!
$100 for the lot !!
$50 for some new locating holes in main leaves !!
& they take Zook bush,s , all positions !!
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:10 am
by moose
stumped wrote:well, despite proving my lack of knowledge again, i feel much enlightened
thanks for the info
from what i've read, i think moose subscribes to the theory of DRIVE IT!!!!! break it!!!!! fix it!!!
drive it!!!!! break it!!!! ....
at least he's out there giving stuff a go
and he did just say look into it
THANX !! what is this? save the moose fund? i gotta go roll the zook out the front of the workshop....
& 
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:50 pm
by stumped
moose wrote:stumped wrote:well, despite proving my lack of knowledge again, i feel much enlightened
thanks for the info
from what i've read, i think moose subscribes to the theory of DRIVE IT!!!!! break it!!!!! fix it!!!
drive it!!!!! break it!!!! ....
at least he's out there giving stuff a go
and he did just say look into it
THANX !! what is this? save the moose fund? i gotta go roll the zook out the front of the workshop....
&
anytime
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:36 am
by sierrajim
Fuel tank now secured, front diff in place as SPUA.
Will finish rear spring mounts and brace transfer case x member this week.
The base of the fuel tank sits level with the bottom of the chassis. Decided to leave it right at the back to hopefully counter the added weight from the winch on the front.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:18 pm
by stumped
is it just me, or is there not much droop left in that shackle?
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:26 pm
by redzook
i dont think it is welded
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:16 pm
by ljxtreem
looking good james
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:43 pm
by sierrajim
The shackle is sitting back a little at the moment for a couple of reasons.
1. There is no body, engine, gearbox etx (hence very little compression)
2. The shackle mount is only clamped on until the weight is there so i can work out where to weld it.
But very well spotted.
Well i'm now looking at boggers for tyres. possibly 36x12.5. Still not sure. We'll see what the $$$ come in at.
Will the 1.6 carb, sierra 1.3 5 speed, series 3 rock hoppers and 4.6 ratios spin them?
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:25 pm
by Barathrum
is this gonna be a trail only rig? or will it be road legal?
I'm about to embark upon a similar build but i haven't decided as to which axles to use, so i'll be following this one closely.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:44 pm
by bigsteve
vitarajim wrote:The shackle is sitting back a little at the moment for a couple of reasons.
1. There is no body, engine, gearbox etx (hence very little compression)
2. The shackle mount is only clamped on until the weight is there so i can work out where to weld it.
But very well spotted.
Well i'm now looking at boggers for tyres. possibly 36x12.5. Still not sure. We'll see what the $$$ come in at.
Will the 1.6 carb, sierra 1.3 5 speed, series 3 rock hoppers and 4.6 ratios spin them?
Boggers
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:23 pm
by sierrajim
Yes the boggers are appealing but will the puny little donk spin them with that gearing?
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:29 pm
by redzook
vitarajim wrote:Yes the boggers are appealing but will the puny little donk spin them with that gearing?
will spin them easy enuff
neva heard of 36 boggers?
37x13.5 is nice size
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:37 pm
by moose
Gonads is running a 1.3 !!
& turning 46" claws !!
So i dont see you having a problem !!!
go the 37,s !!!
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:03 pm
by sierrajim
what gearing is gonads running?
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:10 pm
by moose
5.29 cruiser/bundera diffs & 6.1 Calmini (I think its Calmini ??)
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:10 pm
by ljxtreem
james, dont sell the mq without removing the master cilinder cuz the zuk one wont even get a peddle.
have a look at my thread
mock
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:19 pm
by DeWsE
moose wrote:5.29 cruiser/bundera diffs & 6.1 Calmini (I think its Calmini ??)
Your forgetting his 2:1 crawler box between the gear box transfer. Final ratio of something like 217:1
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:19 pm
by sierrajim
I have the Vitara one, a suzuki swift one and the MQ. Will be looking at that next week.
Did you use the original zook pedal or the Nissan one?
was going to keep the MQ until the zook is done for little useful bits. The when the zook is done i think it can be used as a weel ramp. See Nissans are useful.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:37 pm
by bigsteve
redzook wrote:vitarajim wrote:Yes the boggers are appealing but will the puny little donk spin them with that gearing?
will spin them easy enuff
neva heard of 36 boggers?
37x13.5 is nice size
The man makes an excellent point!!!
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:49 pm
by sierrajim
sorry 35x10.5 or 37x13LT
Would like the 37 but would assume that the 35 has lighter sidewalls that would flex better under a light weight zook.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:05 pm
by bigsteve
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:27 am
by redzook
DeWsE wrote:moose wrote:5.29 cruiser/bundera diffs & 6.1 Calmini (I think its Calmini ??)
Your forgetting his 2:1 crawler box between the gear box transfer. Final ratio of something like 217:1
he used to run 44's without the crawler box
sam keck also ran 42's in the aztec with 6.1 and 5.12's
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:46 am
by Gwagensteve
boggers tend to be shortish for their size, Petersens fitted up a set of 37's and they measured 35.4"
LJxtreem's 36 12.5 swampers are 36.3.
Personally, boggers are cool, but I reckon that for most use, swampers are a more useful and versatile tyre, available in better sizes and have a more flexible tread for a light car.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:33 am
by DeWsE
redzook wrote:DeWsE wrote:moose wrote:5.29 cruiser/bundera diffs & 6.1 Calmini (I think its Calmini ??)
Your forgetting his 2:1 crawler box between the gear box transfer. Final ratio of something like 217:1
he used to run 44's without the crawler box
sam keck also ran 42's in the aztec with 6.1 and 5.12's
Not trying to say your wrong tim but I thought they were 39.5 not 44?
But I think your point is clear, vitarajim your gearing will be sweet to run big rubber
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:39 am
by sierrajim
I understand that i will need to brace the long arm on the transfer case mount but do i need to do the short side?
Does anyone see any need to plate any particular sections of the chassis rails in general?
I was planning on plating the front section due to the added leverage with the front chassis extension and winch.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:45 am
by DeWsE
vitarajim wrote:I understand that i will need to brace the long arm on the transfer case mount but do i need to do the short side?
Does anyone see any need to plate any particular sections of the chassis rails in general?
I was planning on plating the front section due to the added leverage with the front chassis extension and winch.
I think you could just for good measure, I know some of the other guys beefed up the short arm because it has been a problem before.
I am going to plate my extention just for added strength.
Another thing that I will be doing is bracing the spring hanger so that it does not get pushed close when it hits rocks.......like my rear one has already.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:46 am
by bigsteve
I braced the long, haven't done the short but its bent so yes, do the short
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:55 am
by sierrajim
i was actually making some "sliders" for the spring hangers out of some 50x100mm RHS so that rocks etc will slide off the chassis onto the spring rather than bending the hanger.
It's cheap, its easy and better than those "sliders" they sell in the US that resemble a big washer.
Will hopefully be done this week end, will post pics when done.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:12 am
by DeWsE
Sweet I will post pic's of mine as well when its finished.
I thooght you had done your's bigsteve, I remember reading that you were going to do it.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:38 am
by bigsteve
DeWsE wrote:I thooght you had done your's bigsteve, I remember reading that you were going to do it.
Yeah I had planned to, then I drove it, it bent, and has bent no more. I might be looking at an alternative, like a home made mighty kong or the like, not sure yet.