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camshaft wrote:and that can be made road legail?
and y is that unrealistic ur putting a 5.7ltr in y is the 4.5ltr deisel a bad idea? i thought it would be a pritty tuff truck and fairly realiable

4.5 from a 200 has alot of computers and junk the 4.5 single turbo from the 70 series is easyer, but hey if you want to blow some money 6.6 duramax and alison 6 speed

sorry hard to read sarcasim lol and yah im glad at least one person thinks its a cool idea

You could prob get a duramax cheaper than a 4.5L v8 diesel.

But as everyone said talk to an engineer. If you can't get it engineered there is no point getting worked up over others comments

Personally I think you would be better off spending this amount of money on assets that make you money, not cost you. Invest all that dough now and this truck will buy itself in years to come.

However if you are deadset on spending $100k on a fourby, many things are achievable.
1. Have you considered getting a bullet proof Ultra 4 built? Lets you race, crawl and have more fun in an automobile than possible. Lets face it, once you roll a road going truck, you'll be very sad you have to spend another bag of dollars on your $100k truck. Or it will send you broke. At least a race built buggy is built for its purpose.
2. I also like the bombed 40 series option. Much more possible engineering wise I would think. Maybe re-body a new 70 v8 ute and get coils in the back. Or 80 chassis with 45 cab and duramax.

Either way a build like this will take lots of money, research, organisation, management and communication skills, and stack of time. If you are thinking this can be done in a few weeks forget it. Also when you think you know how much all this will cost, add 50-100%, you'll need it.

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This is good advice, listen to uncle Ricko. There has been lots of good advice in this thread, even if they are taking the p**s out of you. Your ideas are cool but unrealistic, combine that with your obvious youth, lack of knowledge and attitude and that is why people will continue to take the p**s.

sprungupcruiser wrote: and that is why people will continue to take the p**s.

Including plenty of workshops if you lob in with a fist full of dollars and head In the clouds.

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as said....

Or here's another idea, find a truck for sale that someone else has spent a fortune on.
Then wheel the crap out of it from day one, for a lot less cost and a lot less headache.

look i dont mean to sound like im gun hoe hence y im asking befor i go out and spend money but 1. what do ppl think of the fj45 ute with the 80 seires chasie and a 1hdt i think it is and is that more realistic? and 2. is there any cood sites i can look for modded 4wds for sale?

camshaft wrote:fj45 ute with the 80 seires chasie and a 1hdt i think it is and is that more realistic?

Heaps more realistic and pretty damn cool. Get building. No stacks!

RAY185 wrote:

camshaft wrote:fj45 ute with the 80 seires chasie and a 1hdt i think it is and is that more realistic?

Heaps more realistic and pretty damn cool. Get building. No stacks!

uh oh

is an LS1 FJ45 on 80 series chassis ok to have stacks?

Check out - http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... 6&t=208404" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Contact 84sloth, he may even consider selling it for the right coin.

Shadow wrote:

RAY185 wrote:

camshaft wrote:fj45 ute with the 80 seires chasie and a 1hdt i think it is and is that more realistic?

Heaps more realistic and pretty damn cool. Get building. No stacks!

uh oh

is an LS1 FJ45 on 80 series chassis ok to have stacks?

No. Stacks are for Diesel's

Ok a few points

1. Speak english. If you stop mangling the queens english, take the time to spell check, and stop talking like a flat cap wearing 19 year old texting fucktard then we might stop taking the piss out of you.

2. Big V8 and coils in a vehicle with a SUBSTANTIAL chassis is easy. In a vehicle with a small chassis and driveline like a hilux is damned hard to do properly (has been done plenty before but to do it right takes some real talent.).

3. If you coil a 200 series, unless you do it really really really well you will DEVALUE that car.

4. Work out if you want to tour or drive big bad ass ruts and hills. The vehicles for either styles are NOT compatable (at least not for long). I have the second type of vehicle, and it eats big ass steps and hard core trails for breakfast then shits all over Chuck Norris just for fun. It positively eats ass for touring in. Not only is it a handful to drive, is subject to a LOT of mechanical fatigue but it's just plain unsuitable. You might have a fully hektic GQ like every other wannabe wheeler out there but i guarantee you that if you try to hardcore wheel a 200 you will very soon end up with a 80k pile of unsellable, undriveable shitbox of parts. Dave (80's Delerious) is one of the more talented drivers i've seen around and he punts a 100 series around the same trails i do. Even with loads of experience and skill he has still managed to ding or muntfuck nearly EVERY SINGLE panel on that once pristine truck.

I would say to you to buy a REASONABLE tow vehicle for touring and buy a complete shitbox to beat on like a red headed step kid out on the trails. If i had my time again that's what i would have done.












Edit: I may have exaggerated the capabiilities of my truck a teensie bit

Oh, and an FJ or HJ anything with coils and V8 or 1HDxxx strait six turbo diesel is uber cool. Do that.

stilivn wrote: No. Stacks are for Diesel's

And people from Logan or those who wear "Monster energy " branded clothing

rockcrawler31 wrote:

stilivn wrote: No. Stacks are for Diesel's

And people from Logan or those who wear "Monster energy " branded clothing

im sweet on all counts but the diesel

maybe i can record a peterbuilt and play it loud through my doof system, then my stacks will be ok?

Shadow wrote:

rockcrawler31 wrote:

stilivn wrote: No. Stacks are for Diesel's

And people from Logan or those who wear "Monster energy " branded clothing

im sweet on all counts but the diesel

maybe i can record a peterbuilt and play it loud through my doof system, then my stacks will be ok?

Only if you hook up a blow off valve to a compressed air tank so you can get the pshhhhht! noise on gear changes too!
Camshaft now that i think about it, a HJ45 with a 4.5 V8 diesel out of a 70 series would be VERY doable, hardcore as fark, and combined with a set of custom hybrid axles would be just about unstoppable.

rockcrawler31 wrote:

stilivn wrote: No. Stacks are for Diesel's

And people from Logan or those who wear "Monster energy " branded clothing

Stacks are cool

haha so you like the idea now?
well what do you think? fj45 ute with what? 1hdt or the 4.5 v8?

Go a duramax diesel and never look back.

camshaft wrote:haha so you like the idea now?
well what do you think? fj45 ute with what? 1hdt or the 4.5 v8?

For pure ease of the swap, and bang for buck i'd go a 1hdt or even a 1hdFTE with a graeme's turbo on it.

If you're going the expense of a 4.5 V8TD (and be very sure that even a second hand 4.5 will be dollars), then i'd just go a 6.6 Duramax. close to the same size physically, and with the OBD2 computer system it's good for 500HP with an aftermarket computer/controller and not much else.

hehehehe muntfuck!

Why not aim for the best of everything and still be controversial.


GU+ 1hdfte

gu town wrote:Why not aim for the best of everything and still be controversial.


GU+ 1hdfte

Now who's taking the piss!?

rockcrawler31 wrote: (80's Delerious) is one of the more talented drivers i've seen around and he punts a 100 series around the same trails i do. Even with loads of experience and skill he has still managed to ding or muntfuck nearly EVERY SINGLE panel on that once pristine truck. (snip)




Edit: I may have exaggerated the capabiilities of my

truck a teensie bit

I think Milo also exaggerates my driving skillz, but not so much the muntfucking of my 105series not sure I'd do the same again.

If your going to smash something about in the bush, stick with a Nissan, no-one gives a shit if you beat up a nissan

80's_delirious wrote:

gu town wrote:Why not aim for the best of everything and still be controversial.


GU+ 1hdfte

Now who's taking the piss!?

I you want a really tough truck, buy a HJ 47 ute with a 2H diesel, no power steering, 35's and lots of rust; -now there's a tough truck. I don't need to wrestle crocodiles; - keeping this rig on the road at 100k's is like wrestling 3 crocs at once.

80's_delirious wrote:

rockcrawler31 wrote: (80's Delerious) is one of the more talented drivers i've seen around and he punts a 100 series around the same trails i do. Even with loads of experience and skill he has still managed to ding or muntfuck nearly EVERY SINGLE panel on that once pristine truck. (snip)




Edit: I may have exaggerated the capabiilities of my

truck a teensie bit

I think Milo also exaggerates my driving skillz, but not so much the muntfucking of my 105series not sure I'd do the same again.

If your going to smash something about in the bush, stick with a Nissan, no-one gives a shit if you beat up a nissan

I'd like to correct that. I believe that the gay community would be very distressed

camshaft wrote:sorry hard to read sarcasim lol and yah im glad at least one person thinks its a cool idea

Hey mate,

It's probably not that people here don't think its a cool idea, its just that a few of us older ones probbaly have lived long enough to have families and struggle to pay our way and get the stuff we would like our families to have and then think about all the money we have wasted on what we now refer to as 'stupid shit', that we once thought was a must-have. So, all in all, we are trying to help, but just not in a way that you want right now. You have the power to build only two things into your life; - successes and regrets. I'm willing to go out on a limb here and say that this idea you have, although right now you think it is really cool, if done, will one day be a regret.

That is all.
Beardy

camshaft wrote:aww piss of... iv got a big lifted gq atm and i do lots of big rutted out hill climbs now i want a nice tourer that i can still do my hill climbs and ruts with plenty of flex i mayb young but im a passionet 4wder and have been for many yrs i want a nice custom rig ok

are you referring to a gq on 33s?

have you spoken with an engineer about any of your questions?
and you been looking at part prices?
have you got an idea of how much this it going to cost for each option you look at?