Stick with EAS you mean? Absafrigginlootley.
No probs, the system is pretty basic once you understand it and the mechanicals are quite reliable - despite what a lot of people say.
Plus I have Rovacom
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EAS was what I meant.Hardy wrote:Stick with EAS you mean? Absafrigginlootley.
No probs, the system is pretty basic once you understand it and the mechanicals are quite reliable - despite what a lot of people say.
Plus I have Rovacom
Do you use that Rovacom often ?
Mecanicals are reliable, but what about electronics.
In that case, I could simply put spacers under the airbags, but I have my doubts, we've got a lot of wet mud around here.
I purchased the RCL EAS module to fine tune the height settings, required after so much expermentation. Previously I had to pay a mechanic to do this even though I didn't end up with matching heights all round.
It was only last Saturday I had planned to first use RCL on the EAS and ironically taht morning the car went into fault mode for the first time (7 years old) and down onto the bumpstops. "No worries, I got RCL"
The fault turned out to be a reportedly stuck solenoid valve - as soon as I cleared it with RCL, all behaved normally.
I was also able to even out each corner (some settings had 25mm disparity) without any problems. I was really happy with whole operation.
I took the car chugging in the bush on Sunday, gave the suspension a full work out, no further issues whatsoever. (except for that rabid tree with a taste for mirrors and body panels)
In general I beleive the electronics to be more reliable than the mechanicals. Electronics are just there, they don't move and don't wear out, they respond only to sensors attached to the mechanical parts which do move and do wear out. The logic behind some of the programming can sometimes be an issue though - being over cautious by going into fault mode etc but this is where products like RCL are a bonus.
However, say you get stuck in a creek and water swamps into the car - it'd be safe to assume you'd not be driving it home.
Sure you could relocate a lot of the ECU's up higher but to coin a phrase -if I wanted a jet ski I'd get a jet ski.
Hardy
It was only last Saturday I had planned to first use RCL on the EAS and ironically taht morning the car went into fault mode for the first time (7 years old) and down onto the bumpstops. "No worries, I got RCL"
The fault turned out to be a reportedly stuck solenoid valve - as soon as I cleared it with RCL, all behaved normally.
I was also able to even out each corner (some settings had 25mm disparity) without any problems. I was really happy with whole operation.
I took the car chugging in the bush on Sunday, gave the suspension a full work out, no further issues whatsoever. (except for that rabid tree with a taste for mirrors and body panels)
In general I beleive the electronics to be more reliable than the mechanicals. Electronics are just there, they don't move and don't wear out, they respond only to sensors attached to the mechanical parts which do move and do wear out. The logic behind some of the programming can sometimes be an issue though - being over cautious by going into fault mode etc but this is where products like RCL are a bonus.
However, say you get stuck in a creek and water swamps into the car - it'd be safe to assume you'd not be driving it home.
Sure you could relocate a lot of the ECU's up higher but to coin a phrase -if I wanted a jet ski I'd get a jet ski.
Hardy
I'm not so fond of water anymore, killed the engine of my Toyota that way.Hardy wrote:if I wanted a jet ski I'd get a jet ski.
So about the jet ski, you're right.
But we don't have many possilities to play on the rocks overhere, mud however, we've got plenty. So for the short trips, it's mostly muddy and I'd like to get home without a lot of expences.
That's why most people overhere advice me to go for coils, however it's not legal. I'm not afraid of the EAS, but I want to be sure that I can get back home.
What is the max. height you can get with an EAS reprogramming ? Not max. extension, but with enough wheeltravel to go offroading.
Damn, this is a hard choice.
Originally I set my STD height up 15mm (clear tyres) and OFFROAD a further 50mm.
In OFFROAD the ride was pretty bouncy, very little effective down travel.
The bouncy prob was averted once I put the Airbag Man rears on and moved the old rears (and rear pistons) up to the front.
But even then I only ever used the OFFROAD setting when I really had too.
Even with this easy and cheap mod I think you'll be wanting a more decent height for jigging around in the bush. 50mm over STD for STD is fine for every day driving and in the bush, with an extra 50mm or so when you need itin OFFROAD mode. But you'd need to do something about reverting the airspring travel range back to it's mid-stroke, hence the 50mm spacer lift. Plus longer shockies.
I extended my height sensor legs with carbon fibre rod - get the length right and you have a non electronic lift, plus it stops them from inverting under max articulation.
I now have 375mm wheel travel (at the rear) with dial-a-lift. Cruise around town in FREEWAY mode or bung it up for the bush - EAS is EFFEN brilliant..!!
Hardy
In OFFROAD the ride was pretty bouncy, very little effective down travel.
The bouncy prob was averted once I put the Airbag Man rears on and moved the old rears (and rear pistons) up to the front.
But even then I only ever used the OFFROAD setting when I really had too.
Even with this easy and cheap mod I think you'll be wanting a more decent height for jigging around in the bush. 50mm over STD for STD is fine for every day driving and in the bush, with an extra 50mm or so when you need itin OFFROAD mode. But you'd need to do something about reverting the airspring travel range back to it's mid-stroke, hence the 50mm spacer lift. Plus longer shockies.
I extended my height sensor legs with carbon fibre rod - get the length right and you have a non electronic lift, plus it stops them from inverting under max articulation.
I now have 375mm wheel travel (at the rear) with dial-a-lift. Cruise around town in FREEWAY mode or bung it up for the bush - EAS is EFFEN brilliant..!!
Hardy
Reading your replys make me want to try the airbags with a 50mm spacer first.
Maybe using a manual system for putting more air in the airbags, so I can lose the sensors and put an override on the EAS-module.
That will solve my doubts about the electronics and will be cheaper than a coilconversion, without a yearly problem with legal technical check-up.
Maybe using a manual system for putting more air in the airbags, so I can lose the sensors and put an override on the EAS-module.
That will solve my doubts about the electronics and will be cheaper than a coilconversion, without a yearly problem with legal technical check-up.
Gday Hardy, do you have any other information on this airbag by any chance? You said it was 3" longer in stroke, but do you know what the open and closed lengths are for the bag?Hardy wrote:New Firestone 9011. About 3" more travel, sleeve style construction, robust bag material, ability to customise pistons. Not yet sure on load capacity though.
Still $600 AUD each, but apparently already been done on SLS Disco II's.
Cheers
Slunnie
Discovery TD5, Landy IIa V8 ute.
Slunnie
Discovery TD5, Landy IIa V8 ute.
Nah, sorry Slunnie - not on the Firestones.
I'm having pdf problems at the moment but I'll try again later tonight.
Brett the Airbag Man was telling me about them quite a while ago now but mine's a Rangie, not a Disco. In any case I thought $600 each was a bit rich.
Are you looking to slip some air under the Disco?
Hardy
I'm having pdf problems at the moment but I'll try again later tonight.
Brett the Airbag Man was telling me about them quite a while ago now but mine's a Rangie, not a Disco. In any case I thought $600 each was a bit rich.
Are you looking to slip some air under the Disco?
Hardy
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