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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:06 pm
by ISUZUROVER
So who has bought some and what are they like???
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:31 pm
by patrolman
i saw them at the Melbourne 4x4 show they look good
but do they preform any good
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:01 pm
by Big Red Toy
I spoke to colin from brawn and he told me $345 per tyre none of this $300 rubbish.
Also the xtreme would wear out way to quick on the drive to the bush, they are too open in the middle for any on road use
i was heavily concidering selling mine & getting a set but now i won't after seeing them
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:48 pm
by mudtoy
BRT to the rescue again. My tyres were landed as sponsorship, hence there was no invoice. I apologise for the discrepancy in retail pricing but it was the price advised to Brawn via the Vic distributor...who later changed the price going into the show.
So when did you see them BRT...as I was at the show for 90% of the time and have been looking forward to meeting you?
No one ever said that they were a long lasting hwy tyre...what did you expect?...They will wear the same as a Simex! Funnily enough the response from most at the show was very positive considering the complaints of the Simex clogging through the centre.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:47 am
by Kane
They diddn't look too bad, not as wide as the pick shows (they look narrower than my 34x11x16 JT2's on 8 inch rims). The sholder lugs don't hang out as far as the Simex as well. I like the little lugs on the sidewall (AKA swamper). I'd like to see the wear life compared to a Simex and then I'll make up my mind.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:35 pm
by quick60
Maxtd5def wrote:Wouldn't an eng cert solve this?
Regards
Max P
Just got my pedes (35X11.5) engineered for an '89 60 series for on road use no prob's. RTA & ins. co. know about them as well.
The Silverstones look like they have wider spacing of the centre lugs, which IMO would wear out quicker on the road, and they look a lot more open in the side lugs as well, so again , IMO, would probably clear better in mud. What about side wall stability for high speed ?? That was one coment by the engineer about the Simex tyres, in that how good they were on the road, tramlining, breaking etc.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:02 pm
by Big Red Toy
I did ask colin where you were, but you were off filming for 4wd tv. And i was too hungover to look.
Yes the centre section is more open & might not clog up with mud as easy, but what i was saying is that they will wear out quickly just on the drive to go wheeling.
Anyhow once somebody runs em we will see how the go
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:58 pm
by mudtoy
Well, we gave them a hammering today and least I say I am impressed. I have driven on the older 35 inch Silverstones for over 5 years now and have always been pleased with their performance having also used swampers and JT2s. I am happy to admit their limitations when compared to the Simex but I did feel that in deep goo they were a little better.
...BUT...the new Silverstone Xtremes are the most traction I have ever personally driven on.
Far out, today we crawled steep rocky, rutted, uneven shaley shit that I have never been able to get up before...and did it easily without lockers.
One particular hill, I have seen 39 swampers at medium pace get up and 33 muds at light speed get stuck 3/4s...We crawled all the way to the top.
Found them to be great on rocks, gravel, bitumen, mud and sandy loam but on crushed rock in a quarry they seemed to dig too well and buried themselves.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:41 pm
by OUTOER
For the price compared to other tyres of the same type, they are on par.
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:09 am
by possum hunter
mudtoy wrote:Well, we gave them a hammering today and least I say I am impressed. I have driven on the older 35 inch Silverstones for over 5 years now and have always been pleased with their performance having also used swampers and JT2s. I am happy to admit their limitations when compared to the Simex but I did feel that in deep goo they were a little better.
...BUT...the new Silverstone Xtremes are the most traction I have ever personally driven on.
Far out, today we crawled steep rocky, rutted, uneven shaley shit that I have never been able to get up before...and did it easily without lockers.
One particular hill, I have seen 39 swampers at medium pace get up and 33 muds at light speed get stuck 3/4s...We crawled all the way to the top.
Found them to be great on rocks, gravel, bitumen, mud and sandy loam but on crushed rock in a quarry they seemed to dig too well and buried themselves.
Did you happen to get any footage of this
Of course you did right
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:30 am
by mike
De-lux wrote:bias ply is not legal in QLD, so i was wondering if this new hybrid type is legal.... Hhhmmmmm...
Not the case, AFAIK it depends if the tyres are dot rated or not...
eg.
my TSL boggers are!
my mates t-rexus aren't
bias claws aren't
radial claws are
It still blows my mind that the boggers are road legal
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:35 am
by mike
ISUZUROVER wrote:De-lux wrote:im not too sure, i know simex JT2's are illegal, some simex are not bias ply, like my simex super trekkers. but micky thompson claws are legal (radial claws i mean).
Under the ADR's it is illegal to fit a bias ply tyre to a vehicle not originally offered with them by the manufacturer.
So ALL BIAS PLY TYRES ARE "LEGAL" for road use if DOT approved, but cannot legally be fitted to 4x4's that weren't specced with bias ply tyres. So that is every 4x4 made after about 1985 (or even earlier).
damn I wish I'd read that post before posting mine...
good info
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:09 am
by muppet_man67
thats what the delete button is for
or you can just use it as an exuse to pad.
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:17 am
by mike
muppet_man67 wrote:thats what the delete button is for
or you can just use it as an exuse to pad.
Wot's padding?
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:12 pm
by mudtoy
Yes possum hunter...we have it all on film and it will be on our TV show soon.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:20 am
by possum hunter
Sweet!!! I work nights so i am woking while the shows is on
BUT the missus tape it for me all the time so will look forward to seeing them in action.
Looked great at the show....
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:09 am
by GRIMACE
damn i wish 4wd tv was up here on the gold coast
or maybe even on foxtel digital
Anyone else run these extremes as I have about 2 weeks to decide weather I want the MT117 Sports or the Extremes in a 35" size.
Cheers
Anthony
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:13 am
by TUFFRANGIE
I don't think the sports come in a 35, it is just the MT 117 which is similar
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:24 pm
by mudtoy
The MT117 comes in a 35x11x16, the MT117 Sport comes in a 33 equivalent (33x12.5x16)...the MT117 Xtreme comes in a 35x10.5x16 only at the moment.
No one else has the Xtremes as they have not landed in Oz yet. I have been sent the first sets outside of Asia to test here.
Within 4 months they should be available in 35x10.5x15, 33x9.5x16 and 15.
The 35x12.5x16 Sport has also been designed but I have no idea on ETA.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:41 pm
by Big Red Toy
i wasn't knocking the offroad performance of the tyre as 4 that they would be sweet, but my concern is the on road, they must handle like crap on road right? also what pressure did you run on / off road??? As that makes a huge differnce.i would imagine that you would have to keep em relatively soft still say 30psi for on road use to keep the rubber on the road & to avoid driving mainly on the middle lugz.
With the sports i run em between 35 - 50psi on road, depending how much patience i have when pumping em up & they handle well as they have the continuos middle runner, i drop em down to between 10 - 15psi offroad & they flex well.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:07 pm
by patrolman
Big Red Toy wrote:i wasn't knocking the offroad performance of the tyre as 4 that they would be sweet, but my concern is the on road, they must handle like crap on road right? also what pressure did you run on / off road??? As that makes a huge differnce.i would imagine that you would have to keep em relatively soft still say 30psi for on road use to keep the rubber on the road & to avoid driving mainly on the middle lugz.
With the sports i run em between 35 - 50psi on road, depending how much patience i have when pumping em up & they handle well as they have the continuos middle runner, i drop em down to between 10 - 15psi offroad & they flex well.
from what i felt (sitting in the back seat) they handle really well on road at 40 psi and they did really well off road at 20psi, when we got to the bush the tyres still had the little hairs on them
i might get a set when they get here
Onroad they were great but there was noticably more flex from the shoulders when cornering
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:08 pm
by GQTrav
I spoke to someone who works with Chris Hummer yesterday and simex might be trying to sew, they were saying that the tread has been changed enough, however the name is too simillar, because they called it the Extreme.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:31 am
by GRIMACE
UPDATE
they can sew all they want
mine are bein mounted to the rims today
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:33 am
by Big Red Toy
AnthonyP wrote:UPDATE
they can sew all they want
mine are bein mounted to the rims today
How much each? are u paying 345 each?
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:58 am
by antt
AnthonyP wrote:UPDATE
they can sew all they want
mine are bein mounted to the rims today
will have to check em out grimace, i'm interested in the 33x9.5's when they come out
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:16 pm
by GRIMACE
Big Red Toy wrote:AnthonyP wrote:UPDATE
they can sew all they want
mine are bein mounted to the rims today
How much each? are u paying 345 each?
Nope
PM Sent
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:38 pm
by hottiemonster
AnthonyP wrote:Big Red Toy wrote:AnthonyP wrote:UPDATE
they can sew all they want
mine are bein mounted to the rims today
How much each? are u paying 345 each?
Nope
PM Sent
come on, share with what price they are
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:47 pm
by GRIMACE
that same price that was stated in the beginning
$300 each
That through Brett at Austyre N Wheel on the gold coast (QLD) he only has three sets at the moment but obviously gonna get more sets in after 500 people call him
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:37 pm
by Big Red Toy
AnthonyP wrote:that same price that was stated in the beginning
$300 each
That through Brett at Austyre N Wheel on the gold coast (QLD) he only has three sets at the moment but obviously gonna get more sets in after 500 people call him
well after bending a spring saturday morning i want bigger tyres, phone call might have to be made
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:30 pm
by mudtoy
I dropped into NETA tyres in Bris last week to say hi to the Qld Silverstone distributor...the Xtremes landed Monday up there and went striaght out. Only 50 tyres though, same as the other states.
We have been running our set now for a while on Bitumen...ok only 500km but we will see how they go.