Outer Limits 4x4 Board

LilBlkDuck wrote:I recall a mag artical on this very subject a while ago and bottom line was that to recover (petrol$) the additional $12000 of the diesel you would need to travel 350,000+ Kms.
They however didn't take into account the increased service shedules. 2:1 diesel :petrol, so it could be further.

On the other hand, that $12000 is enough to transform the petrol into a 4wd beast. Pour those $$$ into suspension and recovery gear upgrades and see who gets further in the real world.

Are the Toyota Diesels mechanical? That is will they run without electronics like the old diesels (and the 4.2 Nissan i think?).

the n/a diesel is the old mechanical style disel but i think the turbo diesel might not be im sure some one else can clear this up

100 series turbo diesel 1HD-FTE <---- electronic.

I find Deisels are easier to drive offroad, get better fuel economy and also done seems to mind water as much, Don't require any moderfactions for hills, Have mates with petrols and deisels and I drive deisels myself and have found that when crawling up steep hills the deisels do it so easy and the petrols need the old foot to floor method more often then not, If they stop half way the carby floods and stalls then pain to start again, any water in the dizzy and you stop for 10 min will drying it out and hitting it with the WD40.

Just my 2 cents

I had a 2.4TD surf and have upgraded to an 80 series 4.5 petrol/gas.
On Sunday I did some tracks for the first time in the cruiser that I've done before in the surf. I found the downhills were similar on engine braking but smoother in the cruiser, hillclimbs were a breeze in the 80 where in the surf it was hell for leather bouncing around because she would bog down otherwise.
I didn't notice much difference on the highway running 33x11.5x16 Simex JT2's on the Cruiser compared to 31x10.5x15 BFG Muddies on the Surf horse power wise. They both struggled on the hills but the JT2's were noisy as! Sounded like a WW2 bomber.

Bazz107 wrote:I find Deisels are easier to drive offroad, get better fuel economy and also done seems to mind water as much, Don't require any moderfactions for hills, Have mates with petrols and deisels and I drive deisels myself and have found that when crawling up steep hills the deisels do it so easy and the petrols need the old foot to floor method more often then not, If they stop half way the carby floods and stalls then pain to start again, any water in the dizzy and you stop for 10 min will drying it out and hitting it with the WD40.

Just my 2 cents

As far as carby flooding is concerned this only happens to street carbies, a good condition Patrol carby runs fine on angles, I even had my single barrell Stromberg on a Holden 186 still running while the Landrover was on it's side. Seen plenty of Holley's and Webers coughing & spluttering on angles. Fuel injection or LPG are 2 other fixes.
Water only gets in a well sealed Dizzy it you immerse it long enough, if the top of your engine is underwater you probably should be worried about other things even in a diesel.