Outer Limits 4x4 Board

There is one in brissie for sale, reg in RHD, price unknown but can email c/n if you PM me.
there is also one for sale, a really nice 1993 model ute with around 15k miles only in immaculate cond out at dubbo, around $50k , reg in RHD.
there are also four slantbacks like mine in LHD available in Dubbo, original LHD, unreg.
Peter

My brother fitted superchargers to all of Bruno Grollo's site vehicle H1 Hummers. They were quite slow without them. With the mild blower setup, they drove with performance to match most normal cars.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the pic of the chassis, aren't the tires the military spec 36" Goodyears??

they sure are, a real bugger to drive on the road but great off it

ozhumvee wrote:they sure are, a real bugger to drive on the road but great off it

I didn't think they were bias ply tires

Yep bias ply, stiff as all get out, aggressive tread and rarely round, noisy as hell and really poor on road handling.

a mate has a set, but he doesn't use them. Now I know not to try and borrow them, if they aren't much better than my swampers.

Far worse I'd imagine, when I got the Humvee it had them all round, half worn etc etc. At 80k you couldn't hear the engine or anything else and speech was impossible. It was also nigh on impossible to stay in a lane on suburban multi lane roads. Fortunately on the only trip I ever did with them to Awaba the lanes on the F3 were wider.

ozhumvee wrote:There is one in brissie for sale, reg in RHD, price unknown but can email c/n if you PM me.
there is also one for sale, a really nice 1993 model ute with around 15k miles only in immaculate cond out at dubbo, around $50k , reg in RHD.
there are also four slantbacks like mine in LHD available in Dubbo, original LHD, unreg.
Peter

i kinda wanna get one... i reckon they would be cool. even the fake ones would be awesome

Hummers are shit boxes.

Vsicks Pathy wrote:Hummers are shit boxes.

Hummers are no more shit boxes than any Nissan, Toyota or Jeep etc.

And quite simply, the US Military wouldn't be using a version of it if it were. Same as the Aussie Military, I don't see many jap 4x4's there either.

And no, I'm not biased, I own a Nissan.

Why not buy a Unimog?? If interested in that sort of a setup.

roverrat wrote:Why not buy a Unimog?? If interested in that sort of a setup.

Ok if you don't mind a max speed of 85Km.

put some off road nos in it

What if you were to chop the arse end off of the hummer.
Like chopping 2/3's of the body off would save a fair bit of weight woudln't it?
Single cab Hummer with custom tray.
The only thing I don't like is the independent suspension.
You can only lift them so much.

What if you were to chop the arse end off of the hummer.
Like chopping 2/3's of the body off would save a fair bit of weight woudln't it?
Single cab Hummer with custom tray.
The only thing I don't like is the independent suspension.
You can only lift them so much.

I wonder how many people making these assertions have driven or worked with a Hummer?

My dad recently sold his Hummer, having owned it for nearly three years.
He fitted AirLockers and a few other bits and pieces, took it around Warburton a few times and up to Mt Skene in the snow.

I;m not really any great defender of the Hummer, they have pretty patchy build quality, aren't all that comfortable, and the civillian trim is pretty funny, but they are very impressive nonetheless.

You can fit them pretty much anywhere you care to if you are a patient. They have good lock and the auto/diesel allows them to be crept with real accuracy. They are easy to place because of the flat sides/square corners. We took dad's through places that we were categorically told it would NOT fit. People pretty much reckoned we were lying when we told them where we had taken it.

There is nothing wrong with Hummer suspension. It is quite flexible, durable, and has very high clearance, rides well, is very weight capable, and handles quite well, for a car of its size and weight.

The ground clearance, brake ability, gearing, and stability make for a pretty convincing off road package.

Outright, it might be as capable as a modified "conventional" 4X4 on most obstacles, and better in some, but there aren't many vehicles wil the range of capabilites - they can carry so much payload, are so stable and easy to drive, and have for better road ability than most cars that can approach them for off road capability.

If you chopped the body off the hummer you would save stuff all weight - Its all bonded/riveted aluminium and very light. The roof is pretty heavy though- it is steel.

A Hummer has 16.5" of ground clearance, and a completely flat belly so if it sits on the chassis/tub is pretty much slides off - and can run around a 38.5 swamper stock. how much lift do you reckon you need?

There is a guy in the states who builds a lift or them, but I think it is more for the bling set than for capability.

I don't really expect anyone to really understand - and they sure have their niggles, but it cracks me up when people slag off a car that they (clearly) know nothing about. Obviously you can build a GQ patol that's heaps better for 1/10th of the price and I saw one that was broken down and there's no room in them and they're too wide etcetcetc

i saw a hummer yesterday on the highway. DAMN they are big

It's funny you whould say that. Heading towards or away from you they do look way big, but they are not very long and overall they are only around 10" wider than say a 100 series with side rails (whicj is pretty wide, I admit)In my (limited) experience behind the wheel, you don't seem to notice the width very much- the car seems to shrink.

A while ago I parked my Kia next to your Dad's Hummer at Chadstone. I was surprised at how small it was. It was the same length as the Kia, same height, but about 1 1/2 times as wide, most of that being the huge transmission tunnel. Inside seemed to be cramped in a very "Landrover" style, sitting hard up against the doors, narrow footwells etc.

All in all, the seem a lot larger in photos.

Their was an article in Unique Cars about Allan Moffats one. Apparently he bought it from Dubbo as well. Maybe same one.

About 5 or so came into the cournty via a slightly grey path. They were being used for perimiter security at an airforce base in Saudi. All military Hummers are supposed to be destroyed before they pass into civilian hads - i.e they have to be sold as scrap. The ones that came into australia never made their way back to the US.

They are all 1986 models (I seem to recall) turtle back, with winches. The one I went for a drive in had very low miles. (about 17,000?) but the normal 6.2 diesel maladies had raised their heads - blown glow plugs.

A massively charismatic car, but with the three speed (T400) and the 6.2, pretty slow and REALLY loud on the highway. All of the cool military stuff rocked though, especially th einternal cage/gun ring and the 3/4" thick perspex windows.

They all (approx 20 odd intact ones anyway) came into the country legitimately, as has been stated they are supposed to be destroyed when purchased for scrap value BEFORE they leave the US bases. Somehow about a 100 odd 'escaped' intact from the USAF in Saudi Arabia. Most were spirited away ( a lot into Africa) and about 20 intact ones along with about the same number of wrecks ended up in Oz. They were 86 -88 models, M1026 (light armour slantbacks), mostly complete with only cosmetic items missing or broken. Mileage varied from 10k to 60k miles.
These early models had very poor glowplug electrics and it was very easy to fry them if they had crook (most did) glow plug controllers. Most of the Aussie owners have upgraded to the latest spec GPC's and no longer have any problems.
In standard trim they were very noisy but after fitting soundproofing, fixing seals etc they are no noisier than a 40 series Tojo. Eventually I'll fit a 4L80E but suspect that while the touring speed (currently 90 -95 kph) will increase so will the fuel consumption due to the total lack of aerodynamics. If I sit around the 90 mark the fuel consumption is around the same as a laden troopy.
I did the RHD conversion and ADR compliance myself at home (most stuff had to be made as there is no RHD version made by the factory) and while I had to remove the armoured glass it still has the turret and gun mount.
Alan Moffat's Humvee is one of the same group but he has fitted an alison trans with overdrive and it is still LHD and unreg.

midnight wrote:What if you were to chop the arse end off of the hummer.
Like chopping 2/3's of the body off would save a fair bit of weight woudln't it?
Single cab Hummer with custom tray.
The only thing I don't like is the independent suspension.
You can only lift them so much.

Check the height of this one
Hoppy

http://www.break.com/index/badhummer.html

Twang!!

http://www.break.com/index/hummerroll.html

Sit, lay Down, roll... oops........

Lewie

http://www.break.com/index/badhummer.html

Twang!!

http://www.break.com/index/hummerroll.html

Sit, lay Down, roll... oops........

Lewie

If the new adr laws com in, We all might have to go and buy humvees to run bigger tyres legally.

that guy in the last vid wat a toss pot

first off there is other pplz in the car
second he goes and shakes some guys hand as if to say "i did well i just pushed my own car over and put other pplz at risk"

cheers
elliot

i went to my yr 12 formal in a h1, everyone went in limos it was black lots of spotties and a crome b/bar

they do have a massive transmission tunnel, so inside you had just a noraml car amount of room.

yep they have a huge tunnel
and from what i understand in the states there is more room on the drivers side than on the passenger side and when they come over hear they swap sides so the driver now ends up with the smaller half and passenger with the bigger

others may know of this or correct me just some thing i remember being tld when i was like 12
cheers
elliot

Didn't really notice any different in the width of the footwell fomr the driver's side to the passenger's side on Dad's. The seat, floormats etc are all the same side to side. All the trim fits from the LHD version, just swapped over.