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Post by redzook »

antt wrote:thats some nice flex outta the front :cool:

......mmmm, leafs are sooooo much quicker and easier than links......


i wouldnt really say leafs are quicker. just so happens there is a good bolt on mod for leafys
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Post by antt »

redzook wrote:
antt wrote:thats some nice flex outta the front :cool:

......mmmm, leafs are sooooo much quicker and easier than links......


i wouldnt really say leafs are quicker. just so happens there is a good bolt on mod for leafys


for a sas i mean ;)
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Post by Bad JuJu »

That is cool specially for the price...
How about some specs of the longer shackles, what are they made from and the center to center distance for the bolt holes ??

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Post by lay80n »

Nice. i just missed most of this, so i just ask a dumb question cause im good at it. You runnin standard rears up fromt with no chassis extension??
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Post by stumped »

lay80n wrote:Nice. i just missed most of this, so i just ask a dumb question cause im good at it. You runnin standard rears up fromt with no chassis extension??
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was just talking to him... RUF with no chassis/mount mods, just extended shackles. rear is moved back by moving the mount
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Post by bigsteve »

stumped wrote:
lay80n wrote:Nice. i just missed most of this, so i just ask a dumb question cause im good at it. You runnin standard rears up fromt with no chassis extension??
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was just talking to him... RUF with no chassis/mount mods, just extended shackles. rear is moved back my moving the mount


moving the whole mount or just drilling another hole further back?
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Post by redzook »

bigsteve wrote:
stumped wrote:
lay80n wrote:Nice. i just missed most of this, so i just ask a dumb question cause im good at it. You runnin standard rears up fromt with no chassis extension??
cheers
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was just talking to him... RUF with no chassis/mount mods, just extended shackles. rear is moved back my moving the mount


moving the whole mount or just drilling another hole further back?


pics are on the first page
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Post by bigsteve »

redzook wrote:
bigsteve wrote:
stumped wrote:
lay80n wrote:Nice. i just missed most of this, so i just ask a dumb question cause im good at it. You runnin standard rears up fromt with no chassis extension??
cheers
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was just talking to him... RUF with no chassis/mount mods, just extended shackles. rear is moved back my moving the mount


moving the whole mount or just drilling another hole further back?


pics are on the first page


None of them clearly show the rear mount for the front spring. :?
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Post by redzook »

the front is stock except extended shackle and rears upfront

i thought u were talking bout the rear springs
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Post by stumped »

bigsteve wrote:
stumped wrote:
lay80n wrote:Nice. i just missed most of this, so i just ask a dumb question cause im good at it. You runnin standard rears up fromt with no chassis extension??
cheers
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was just talking to him... RUF with no chassis/mount mods, just extended shackles. rear is moved back my moving the mount


moving the whole mount or just drilling another hole further back?


the rear being the mount for the rear springs.... the mount has been replaced with a different one, having holes drilled for the original placement as well as the moved back position.
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Post by nicbeer »

It looks like by the photo like the RRO rears kit? a plate on the mount both sides and pin moved back more?

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Post by lay80n »

Got my answer on Aust day, watching the little thing drive. With no shocks, i think steve was driving something like an overgrown pogo stick.
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Post by ca18escort »

Ok I have done the RUF on mine witht he extended shackles and they keep binding up I was wonering if you had photos that clearly shw what you have done.

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Post by nicbeer »

What is binding up? Where.

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Post by ca18escort »

I have got 2" extended shackles and when I put the RUF on the spring sits flat which is good but the spring gets stuck on the shackle. I was wondering if I got the springs reset higher so that the spring had a small curve in it should sto pthe problem. I will take some pic this afternoon and post them.

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Post by redzook »

ca18escort wrote:I have got 2" extended shackles and when I put the RUF on the spring sits flat which is good but the spring gets stuck on the shackle. I was wondering if I got the springs reset higher so that the spring had a small curve in it should sto pthe problem. I will take some pic this afternoon and post them.

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sounds like ur shackle isnt long enough

reseting the springs wont help any as they will still go flat when u flex it causing it to sit againt the chassis
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Post by ca18escort »

What I was thinking though is that if I get them reset and then welded a stop plate on the shckel to stop it from binding. At the moment with the spring as it sits there is on a couple of mm to the bump stop. It would ride better on the raod if it had more travel. before it hit the bump stop. The other option was to just get 2" lifted OME fronts and chuck them on. what do you think? Like I said I will get some photos this afternoon. I would really like to keep the RUF because the travel is about 6" more than what is was before.

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Post by grimbo »

what do you mean the spring gets stuck on the shackle, I can't see how this is possible
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Post by nicbeer »

Hey Ca18escort.

Did you do the RUF as per project low or did you extend the chassis / move rear mount.

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Post by jabtronic »

Grimbo I think he might mean the spring is resting on the top shackle mount.. so it's basically hitting the chassis?
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Post by ca18escort »

I did it as per project low because I though that if it worked it would be an easy option :roll: The problems started when I had to cut the drivers side spring off to do it so now I have to make it work or buy new springs. The shackles are 2" longer. I have attached a couple of pics so that you can have a look at what I was talking about with regard to clearance to the bumpstop and the angle of the shackle.

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Post by ca18escort »

If you are wondering what is sitting on the spring is a a gate hinge that I had sitting in the back on the zook. When I ent out wheeling on sunday the bound up on me and the ride was a little on the rough side. Some racing tape, a couple of zip ties and they were wedged in there to stop them from binding on the way home.

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Post by redzook »

yeh u need a longer shackle upfront

resetin the springs wont work

steve what length did u make your shackles?
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Post by ca18escort »

How much longer do you think I should make them? Would 3" longer work ok?

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Post by CHOPZUKI »

my shackles are only 2 inchs longer than stock.

the spring pack had 4 leaves and was out of a ute.

i think you need some arch in them springs to fix that problem,

lifted springs would be the go, my shackles were sitting a little too flat after a few drives. it will ride heaps better on road too.


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Post by redzook »

if he gets more arch in the springs it wont help the problem
he needs a bit longer shackle
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Post by stumped »

redzook wrote:if he gets more arch in the springs it wont help the problem
he needs a bit longer shackle


wouldn't a curved spring give it a bit more movement before it hits on the bumpstop or shackle/chassis?
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Post by small talk »

to do the ruff setup that ca18escort has you just bolt rears up front and make extended shackels???? but if he makes them too long wont it be a pig to drive??? could you drop the rear hangers??? is this mod worth doing??

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Post by CHOPZUKI »

redzook wrote:if he gets more arch in the springs it wont help the problem
he needs a bit longer shackle


longer than 2 inch extended? thats crazy.

the springs i had in mine had more arch than his and i dont have his problem!

a longer shackle will totally stuff the handling.
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Post by redzook »

yld04b wrote:
redzook wrote:if he gets more arch in the springs it wont help the problem
he needs a bit longer shackle


longer than 2 inch extended? thats crazy.

the springs i had in mine had more arch than his and i dont have his problem!

a longer shackle will totally stuff the handling.


if u measure yours eye to eye it would be longer then c18s shackle
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