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So your saying the new 15 x 10 beadlock rims shane and I just got arn't going to be legal......drats

Yeh engineerable & legal may well be 2 different things. Half the cars out there that are engineered prob arnt necessarily legal..

Having said that, a mate got pulled over on way to summer nats in his hilux with 44"swampers.

The coppas pulled him over and the RTA inspected it. He got defected for the tyres saying 18.5 wide and not 12.5 as engineers report said, they also defected him for a oil leak & thats it.

The RTA inspector looked over the car for 1/2 hour (i thought it would go home on a tow truck) but suspension, shackles, bodylift, 10" rims where all on engineers report they just accepted it and let him keep driving to the nats.

daryl wrote:hey dan

id buy your tray & floor pan when your ready to chop it into a tray back
may save me alot of work

its a good start dan
atleast your starting with a long wb chassis
is that the one sam & tim put you onto
shes looking low dont think she will clear 37'' mtrs

daryl

cheers Daryl the floor pan has been promised to ben but he changes his mind (build plan daily) if he makes up his mind that he dont want i will let ya know

Yep the same Sam mentioned bout it 1 night so a pm to bennybigballs happened real quick ..... and yeah its sittin a bit higher now wif a trailer axle under the rear and a timber tressell under the front to keep the water from pooling in the foot wells


Cheers

ok thanks dan

ive got spoa wt diffs you can use if needed
if you want it a rolling chassis
its all 100% complete diffs suspension & brakes
and i know where you can pinch wt chassis brackets from

then ill sell them when you get lux axles
just a thort anyways

daryl

hey wanna sell me that thing seeing as you are building a buggy

Bubs this was put on the back burner wen i heard of the lwb VITARA-lifted /air locked/and geared /auto/injected for 1500 bucks so this ended up gettin handed over to my old boy..............

who's goin to do a mild build up for a bit of fun and too save a few kays on his 100'series Sorry dude


Yep buggy will eventulate but after I chop and fit some cruiser axles under the vit .......

I took everything into account and i just cant afford a Tow rig at the moment ....the MAV will get either parted out or sold once the vit is done ...then I will start on the buggy or I may play around buildin a buggy frame to keep things moving along damn time and money


Dan

DIGGIN up some archives .....................




This Rig well may eventually be a Rig



May be changin hands to another OL member




Just keepin up with Redzooks secret squirrell post count

Hows those new tyres goin Tim ? Are they at your HOME yet



Dan

I still think yr 37"s are too big, you just dont have enough weight in the vehicle to make the tyres bag out that much. The zook chassis is tin foil compared to a nissan chassis and diffs. The tyre bagging out is where the most traction, even with lockers is gained. You need serious tyrs flex to mould itself aroung the rock other wise you will just spin which = loss of traction. The difference is

Bentzook wrote:I still think yr 37"s are too big, you just dont have enough weight in the vehicle to make the tyres bag out that much. The zook chassis is tin foil compared to a nissan chassis and diffs. The tyre bagging out is where the most traction, even with lockers is gained. You need serious tyrs flex to mould itself aroung the rock other wise you will just spin which = loss of traction. The difference is

it dont matter about tinny little 37's coz i here that the new owner will b running 39.5's

there was 10 pound in the tyres in that pic, dropped them to 5 on the weekend and they work much better. that was the 1st time it had been driven. thanks for the tip tho

Bentzook wrote:I still think yr 37"s are too big, you just dont have enough weight in the vehicle to make the tyres bag out that much. The zook chassis is tin foil compared to a nissan chassis and diffs. The tyre bagging out is where the most traction, even with lockers is gained. You need serious tyrs flex to mould itself aroung the rock other wise you will just spin which = loss of traction. The difference is

so what has the height of the tire got to do with any thing?

i actually think the higher the tire (more sidwall the better it would flex)

as u notice that hilux or wateva it is has beadlocks with boggers
so he is prolly running around 2psi
i bet it turns like an absolute bitch being bias and aired down that low
the sidewalls would just fould underthem selves

another thing is that chopzuki is coming up a hill as u can see his passanger wheel is off the ground also there is not much weight on the the drive side so how is it goin to bag

redzook wrote:

Bentzook wrote:I still think yr 37"s are too big, you just dont have enough weight in the vehicle to make the tyres bag out that much. The zook chassis is tin foil compared to a nissan chassis and diffs. The tyre bagging out is where the most traction, even with lockers is gained. You need serious tyrs flex to mould itself aroung the rock other wise you will just spin which = loss of traction. The difference is

so what has the height of the tire got to do with any thing?

i actually think the higher the tire (more sidwall the better it would flex)

as u notice that hilux or wateva it is has beadlocks with boggers
so he is prolly running around 2psi
i bet it turns like an absolute bitch being bias and aired down that low
the sidewalls would just fould underthem selves

another thing is that chopzuki is coming up a hill as u can see his passanger wheel is off the ground also there is not much weight on the the drive side so how is it goin to bag

x2

so what has the height of the tire got to do with any thing?

i actually think the higher the tire (more sidwall the better it would flex)

as u notice that hilux or wateva it is has beadlocks with boggers
so he is prolly running around 2psi
i bet it turns like an absolute bitch being bias and aired down that low
the sidewalls would just fould underthem selves

another thing is that chopzuki is coming up a hill as u can see his passanger wheel is off the ground also there is not much weight on the the drive side so how is it goin to bag

How are you going to flex it if you dont have the weight. The tyre doesnt just mould itself around anything with high pressure. As you can see in the pic none of the tyres are flexing that much, therefore he is smoking it up and had lost any traction whatso eva.

That was my Gu ute with 38.5 Boggers on 7" beadlock rims @ 3psi. I had Detroit lockers series 4 front and rear. With more experience you will learn how to disingage a Detroit or lockrite or whateva by simply turning the steering and off throttle these lockers are very easy to use and turning is simple. I competed many Nissan trials with them, never had a problem with it, plus those beadlocks never let go, never did the tyre roll off, and you could drive the waterfall tracks at the old Oxford Falls with ease.

Bentzook wrote:

so what has the height of the tire got to do with any thing?

i actually think the higher the tire (more sidwall the better it would flex)

as u notice that hilux or wateva it is has beadlocks with boggers
so he is prolly running around 2psi
i bet it turns like an absolute bitch being bias and aired down that low
the sidewalls would just fould underthem selves

another thing is that chopzuki is coming up a hill as u can see his passanger wheel is off the ground also there is not much weight on the the drive side so how is it goin to bag

How are you going to flex it if you dont have the weight. The tyre doesnt just mould itself around anything with high pressure. As you can see in the pic none of the tyres are flexing that much, therefore he is smoking it up and had lost any traction whatso eva.

That was my Gu ute with 38.5 Boggers on 7" beadlock rims @ 3psi. I had Detroit lockers series 4 front and rear. With more experience you will learn how to disingage a Detroit or lockrite or whateva by simply turning the steering and off throttle these lockers are very easy to use and turning is simple. I competed many Nissan trials with them, never had a problem with it, plus those beadlocks never let go, never did the tyre roll off, and you could drive the waterfall tracks at the old Oxford Falls with ease.

you are a stoner.

so how heavy is heavy enough in your eyes?

buggys are light..... they flex..... it all depends on ur suspension set up, a well set up rig will flex no matter how much they weigh

Bentzook wrote:

so what has the height of the tire got to do with any thing?

i actually think the higher the tire (more sidwall the better it would flex)

as u notice that hilux or wateva it is has beadlocks with boggers
so he is prolly running around 2psi
i bet it turns like an absolute bitch being bias and aired down that low
the sidewalls would just fould underthem selves

another thing is that chopzuki is coming up a hill as u can see his passanger wheel is off the ground also there is not much weight on the the drive side so how is it goin to bag

How are you going to flex it if you dont have the weight. The tyre doesnt just mould itself around anything with high pressure. As you can see in the pic none of the tyres are flexing that much, therefore he is smoking it up and had lost any traction whatso eva.

That was my Gu ute with 38.5 Boggers on 7" beadlock rims @ 3psi. I had Detroit lockers series 4 front and rear. With more experience you will learn how to disingage a Detroit or lockrite or whateva by simply turning the steering and off throttle these lockers are very easy to use and turning is simple. I competed many Nissan trials with them, never had a problem with it, plus those beadlocks never let go, never did the tyre roll off, and you could drive the waterfall tracks at the old Oxford Falls with ease.

my god your a tard. i stayed out of the tufftruck thread, but cant stay away from this one.

you're sayin that the tire isn't bagging, MAYBE this is because, like chopzuki said, he was goin uphill and had 10psi in the tires and was in a lighter car. if he had beadlocks and run them at 3 psi like you, they'd bag. probably not as much as the BIAS tires in your pic, on a patrol that weighs another 1000kg compared to his zuk, but havin a heavy-ass pos patrol isnt the best when you want to climb a rockface. no matter how much ya tires bag, ya still gotta move another ton of weight against gravity.

Far ken hell wat a load of dribble that can start from diggin up and old thread oh well



Heres Yet another new project that i will be taken pride in doin a reasonable amount of moddin to



hey Tim now someone else also has a genuine zook ute cab let-alone genuine zook tray





A1


Ps The TWIN EXHAUST STACKS ARE STAYIN AS ARE THE TRUCK LIGHTS ON THE ROOF ( THERE FULLY SIIIIIIIIIIIICKKKKK MATTTTTTTE)

sweet, can u give us a little in sight to ur plans

Aza wrote:sweet, can u give us a little in sight to ur plans

y so bent zook can cry about it ??

how freakin ugly are the rims on that ute?! haha

some of those that entered Tufftruck only entered because the application said No Experience Neccessary. On the job training but you guys wagged that day.

antt wrote:

Bentzook wrote:

so what has the height of the tire got to do with any thing?

i actually think the higher the tire (more sidwall the better it would flex)

as u notice that hilux or wateva it is has beadlocks with boggers
so he is prolly running around 2psi
i bet it turns like an absolute bitch being bias and aired down that low
the sidewalls would just fould underthem selves

another thing is that chopzuki is coming up a hill as u can see his passanger wheel is off the ground also there is not much weight on the the drive side so how is it goin to bag

How are you going to flex it if you dont have the weight. The tyre doesnt just mould itself around anything with high pressure. As you can see in the pic none of the tyres are flexing that much, therefore he is smoking it up and had lost any traction whatso eva.

That was my Gu ute with 38.5 Boggers on 7" beadlock rims @ 3psi. I had Detroit lockers series 4 front and rear. With more experience you will learn how to disingage a Detroit or lockrite or whateva by simply turning the steering and off throttle these lockers are very easy to use and turning is simple. I competed many Nissan trials with them, never had a problem with it, plus those beadlocks never let go, never did the tyre roll off, and you could drive the waterfall tracks at the old Oxford Falls with ease.

my god your a tard. i stayed out of the tufftruck thread, but cant stay away from this one.

you're sayin that the tire isn't bagging, MAYBE this is because, like chopzuki said, he was goin uphill and had 10psi in the tires and was in a lighter car. if he had beadlocks and run them at 3 psi like you, they'd bag. probably not as much as the BIAS tires in your pic, on a patrol that weighs another 1000kg compared to his zuk, but havin a heavy-ass pos patrol isnt the best when you want to climb a rockface. no matter how much ya tires bag, ya still gotta move another ton of weight against gravity.

Bwahaha, man ive seen plenty of zooks bagging there tires. Its all about sidewall thickness and the pressure in the tires. Almost any tire with 3psi in it will bag right out. Maybe not as much as that pic but i dont see the point in having your tires that flat except for flat shit where you dont want to much turning ability or any sort of momentum for an object. Are you trying to dint your rims

alright people, what we need here, is for some one with a zook, to go out, let yuor tyres down the 3psi, and flex it up, so he can see it bagged up, then with any luck, this doofus will crawl buck under the rock from which he came....................

or, i will go out, and put 3 psi into a 31" i have out the back, and i will sit on it and see how much it bags, which does it need to be

now the below pic, is of a zook, now, RBZOOK, what pressure did you use to run on your stock zook with the old MTR's i dont think it was 3 psi if i remember correctly,

Guys don't turn this thread into a slinging match about tuff truck!

But you can keep arguing about the effectiveness of large tire size on built zook’s because it’s relevant. If large tires aren’t of made of many ply’s then they’ll flex under the lighter zook. Eg Tractor tires mightn’t flex real well without any weight but radial MTR’s will.



PS. I think Tim and Steve did well at Tuff Truck, it’s a pity lack of experience lead to silly safety mistakes. My 2cents. But start a thread in chit chat if you want to argue about the experience needed of people competing at TT.

Have we all forgotten that you let your tires down for a longer footprint, not to see how much the tire bags. Some of you guys must be noobies!

Letting your tires down increases the length of tire patch. The amount of “bagâ€

ozy1 wrote:alright people, what we need here, is for some one with a zook, to go out, let yuor tyres down the 3psi, and flex it up, so he can see it bagged up, then with any luck, this doofus will crawl buck under the rock from which he came....................

or, i will go out, and put 3 psi into a 31" i have out the back, and i will sit on it and see how much it bags, which does it need to be

now the below pic, is of a zook, now, RBZOOK, what pressure did you use to run on your stock zook with the old MTR's i dont think it was 3 psi if i remember correctly,

think you will find i had 8 psi or there abouts maby 10 being a front tyre
bags nicely

DeWsE wrote: A great example of this is simex, has anyone tired to wheel them on rocks. The retarded tread folds under itself like a slippery nipple against a plate of jelly

I knew there was a reason that i liked my simex. Its all about the imagery



Yes simex at low pressures don't like rocks, so its a good thing i don't have any local to me.

alright people, what we need here, is for some one with a zook, to go out, let yuor tyres down the 3psi, and flex it up, so he can see it bagged up, then with any luck, this doofus will crawl buck under the rock from which he came....................

the test can only be done with 37s, so dont worry about trying with any other size. Show me a pic of yr 37s at 1 psi on rock .
It will differ between tyre brands as some have thicker sidewalls and are harder to bag out, requiring more vehicle weight.

hypozook wrote:

Bentzook wrote:I still think yr 37"s are too big, you just dont have enough weight in the vehicle to make the tyres bag out that much. The zook chassis is tin foil compared to a nissan chassis and diffs. The tyre bagging out is where the most traction, even with lockers is gained. You need serious tyrs flex to mould itself aroung the rock other wise you will just spin which = loss of traction. The difference is

it dont matter about tinny little 37's coz i here that the new owner will b running 39.5's

As if the to be new owner even has 39.5's hypostoner




Ps for extra info to keep all partys happy these will prob flex/bag betta without the cling wrap @ zero psi even though 1 is carrying a huge weight ...................




Nice tyres G. H . EY rims



Dan

nice pic benny