Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Wendle wrote:

Zol wrote:

Nissan rod end??? I didn't think the thread would be the same.

Probably isn't. You would need a custom draglink so you could have a toyo end at the pitman arm, and a nissan one at the knuckle. It may be the same thread though??
Thats a pretty big $$ item to have to grind away at to make it work

that was my thoughts, and I have not touched them, for that reason!
so they are as you buy them from snake then, and in good condition!!!

bj on roids wrote:should have bought mine in the for sale section a few weeks ago!!

I could respond in many ways to that one !!

DO IT!!!!

whats wrong with mine :o

Hmm i wont reply to that

bj on roids wrote:

Guts wrote:Mine are out of the same batch as your 1st set BJ.

okay, no wonder you king pin bearing broke that time then!! its posted up too, remember you said, broke a king pin bearing up bush? that happens to mine everytime it pops a CV, not to mention you gotta run all 80 series ball joints to get it to fit!

Yes I broke a bearing, BFD!!!!!!!!!!! they were about 2 years old anyway I`ve also broken studs, the reason for that was that the nuts weren`t tightened proply the last time it was apart, I replaced them and made shore they were tight and haven`t had a problem since

Now whats wrong with having to run 80 series ball joints? They are bigger and stronger so whats the bad thing there O I know its not bootie fab

Guts wrote:

bj on roids wrote:

Guts wrote:Mine are out of the same batch as your 1st set BJ.

okay, no wonder you king pin bearing broke that time then!! its posted up too, remember you said, broke a king pin bearing up bush? that happens to mine everytime it pops a CV, not to mention you gotta run all 80 series ball joints to get it to fit!

Yes I broke a bearing, BFD!!!!!!!!!!! they were about 2 years old anyway I`ve also broken studs, the reason for that was that the nuts weren`t tightened proply the last time it was apart, I replaced them and made shore they were tight and haven`t had a problem since

Now whats wrong with having to run 80 series ball joints? They are bigger and stronger so whats the bad thing there O I know its not bootie fab

Wots is yer problem fawker ?? just let it roll that other people r having probs with there setups dont know y u havent had probs maybe it coz u dont wheel it often enuf i dont know but i have had my hy-steer for bout 8 months and have had 2 replace the TRE's once and they r not far from needing doing again so go figure that one out ?? maybe that has something 2 do with the tapers being 2 deep ???

Chaos 4x4 are machining me up a set of their histeer arms this week so I should get them mid next week and I'll report any findings once I get them on and get wheeling again.

I had the the bolts go loose on me as well. But got it in time. That's actually because the thick layer of paint on them. You drive around for a while & the paint wears out & in turn loosens the tension. Gotta re-tighten it a few times until all the paint comes of or just sand it off.

As for grinding....well I thought that there's tones of metal there to manage a bit of a grind. Still works. Now instead of changing the TRE's every 3 months ...it's every 6 to 8.

hypolux wrote:

Guts wrote:

bj on roids wrote:

Guts wrote:Mine are out of the same batch as your 1st set BJ.

okay, no wonder you king pin bearing broke that time then!! its posted up too, remember you said, broke a king pin bearing up bush? that happens to mine everytime it pops a CV, not to mention you gotta run all 80 series ball joints to get it to fit!

Yes I broke a bearing, BFD!!!!!!!!!!! they were about 2 years old anyway I`ve also broken studs, the reason for that was that the nuts weren`t tightened proply the last time it was apart, I replaced them and made shore they were tight and haven`t had a problem since

Now whats wrong with having to run 80 series ball joints? They are bigger and stronger so whats the bad thing there O I know its not bootie fab

Wots is yer problem fawker ?? just let it roll that other people r having probs with there setups dont know y u havent had probs maybe it coz u dont wheel it often enuf i dont know but i have had my hy-steer for bout 8 months and have had 2 replace the TRE's once and they r not far from needing doing again so go figure that one out ?? maybe that has something 2 do with the tapers being 2 deep ???

you street and wheel far more than me, but i wheel mine pretty hard and do a little bit of street compared to you. But a lot more street more than some 4WDs!! So yeah, we use ours an awful lot. Guts, maybe you could get snake onto the site and get him to clear these issues up himself with us.

It does not look like everyone is unhappy with thier Arms, just disappointed by niggling issues. Clearing this up could only be good for customer service.

Dam BJ I was hoping you`d bite like Hypo did

I don`t think Ryan is even back at work yet so I can`t see him even turning his computor on ATM.

Guts wrote:Dam BJ I was hoping you`d bite like Hypo did

I don`t think Ryan is even back at work yet so I can`t see him even turning his computor on ATM.

We are not here to sture. This is the place to discusse issus that you have with your rig. Do you no hypo and how he and all the others drive there truck. I DO.

i talked to rhino on the weekend

Do I care?

If they want to drive it stupidly hard and fast and break EVERYTHING then good on them if they get a buss out of it, I on the other hand get a buss out of driving mine slow and not breaking everything. I do however drive it hard when it is NEEDED!!!!!! just not all the time.

If they drive them slow like me and still break everything then thats also good on them if they get there buss that way.

spazbot wrote:i talked to rhino on the weekend

Well there you go he must be back at work then.

Guts wrote:Do I care?

If they want to drive it stupidly hard and fast and break EVERYTHING then good on them if they get a buss out of it, I on the other hand get a buss out of driving mine slow and not breaking everything. I do however drive it hard when it is NEEDED!!!!!! just not all the time.

If they drive them slow like me and still break everything then thats also good on them if they get there buss that way.

Jeez Guts

I didn't realise you were so familiar with my driving. It's all in the way I type isn't it.

I have not yet had any major problems with my snake hi steer, realised i needed to re-check my stud and nut tightness occasioanally after noticing Hypos broken studs on our trip to Freds Hill felt sorry and worried for Ben having to limp home for fear of steering failing.
I am in total agreeance that the tapers for the balljoints and to a lesser degree the cone washers are way too deep. I am thinking about machining arm down a little thinner (jhow much i dont know) when i need to change my balljoints but would rather have arms replaced. I raised the issue with Ryan about the tapers when i first got mine and he didnt seem too concerned, I know that sooner or later i will have the same problems others are having and think that it is only right that Ryan does the right thing by his customers if they have a problem. I have been generally happy with my arms and steering so far.

Guts wrote:Do I care?

If they want to drive it stupidly hard and fast and break EVERYTHING then good on them if they get a buss out of it, I on the other hand get a buss out of driving mine slow and not breaking everything. I do however drive it hard when it is NEEDED!!!!!! just not all the time.

If they drive them slow like me and still break everything then thats also good on them if they get there buss that way.

yeah slow is good guts, but there is sometimes wen u need 2 just "give it some mumbo" and wen these times come along i dont wanna have 2 stop and think jeeez i wonder if the various parts of my rig will take a bit of a beetin..........

Hey Guts don't get offensive people are just voicing there opinions if you make a product it should cope with whatever driving style you have. I understand he sponsors you but don't you think you should talk to Ryan and try and solve the problems people are having with the product.

Guts (this is not a go at you or Snake, just my observation)

I Have a Cross-over, behind, up side down, thingy set-up using stock toyota arms and i have never had a problem with breaking studs and busting king-pin bearings (bearings are over rated anyway ) this to me appears to be either poor maintenance or a FLOOR (not fault) in the design!

The issue here is, someone has discovered a small niggling problem with a certain item.

When discussed further other people have also stated they have experienced the same, fair enough there may be 100 or so sets and only a couple of BAD eggs but as with any product you BUY you expect there to be no hassles, if there is than the issue is resolved quickly either by replacing the part or refunding the money!

There would be a very fine tolerance when these items are machined, it could be that the tooling is getting worn and has cut slightly oversize making the arm fit VERY tightly into the bearing or it could be operator error and machined a thou" to much of and thus making it to sloppy in the bearing (it would not be noticable by feel and eye but with the weight and stress of the vehicle it would not take long to flog out!

This is somthing that should be brought to the manufactures notice!

On another note!

As with driving style it shoudn't really matter how other people Drive, we have one way that we have found very effective for the terrain we drive and you have found a suitable way that you like!

Yes we break stuff but not as often as people would hope!!!!!

Certain things break dew to FATIGUE, when something gets wheeled to the EXTREME every second weekend some thing is bound to let go sooner or later!

Guts if i was sponsored by a company and there was someone raising issues with a certain product than i would try and get them to do something about it, not only will that give the company a better REP it would also help you out as other would be sponsors may also read what you have done and think this is the type of wheeler we want to promote our product!

POS, I like your reply and agree with you 100%

I have meantioned these things to ryan awhile ago (a month or 2) and he said he`d be looking into it.

Guts wrote:POS, I like your reply and agree with you 100%

I have meantioned these things to ryan awhile ago (a month or 2) and he said he`d be looking into it.

problem is, cplux mentioned it b4 he actually installed his and i mentioned bout it not long after i had put mine on, and on numerous occasions since then i have called, emailed regaurding this and 2 no avail so wot is one 2 do ??

Back to the thread...

James, you've seen the mighty lux, with the awesome custom door.
The only mods I've done to my truck is 31"muds a pissy, 2.5" lift and 2 X ARB air-lockers. I have no power-steer whatsoever.
(No power ANYTHING for that matter :( )

The lockers simply put are awesome. The single best mod I
ever did to the truck. I have only been stuck once since installing them. Additional to this, I can now drive lines reserved for the
big trucks only, albeit with some panel-lovin' due to a major lack of
travel and clearence. (I walked Prado Hill on the 2nd attempt)

However, the thing I found is that 90% of the time, I leave the rear locked, but the front unlocked. I only really need the front locker when
climbing up loose surfaces or big uneven rock steps, the main reason for this being that with the front locker "on", with my bashed steering-box, you can't turn for shiat!!!
Seriously, unless both front wheels are arking up, I'd be lucky to get 2 revolutions either left or right with front locker on (it has put me in some bad spots b4). not only this, but it also takes about 3 or 4 wheel revolutions forward (and about 2 or 3 in REV) to "unlock" the diff completely (ie when steering returns to normal resistance) which can be disturbing at times.

On the upside, you have HEAPS of fun on wet roundabouts...

Bart

Currently going with a welded rear and air locker in the front

also doing rears up front and 99012's
and all that other crap

now you are talking!!

Have you got extended shackles yet dude?
My mate had shackles front n back, drop front mounts and 9012's all round on a pre 85 4-Runner with solid axle, which are almost identical suspension-wise and that thing flexed sweet.


Bart