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Post by GOT MUD »

ISUZUROVER wrote:
muduppig wrote:90% is imported from o/s


Sorry, but that is crap. I worked at a refinery and Propane and Butane are produced as a by-product of the refining process. The refinery I worked at produced far more than they could sell so they put quite a lot of it through the flare (burnt it to get rid of it).

While crude oil (and sometimes refined fuel) is imported I have never heard of this happening for gas - we have plenty of surplus production here.
no its not crap its true because australian gas cost to much to be used the same way thats why you are getting rid of it it comes thats why domestic bottle gas prices are controlled of shore (arabs) and not by australians which is b/s we are even subjected to price increases due to the northern hemisphere winter due to them using more
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Post by Tas_Dean »

I've used lpg and oxygen in place of oxy acetylene, and I've used it at a couple of different places.
One set I borrowed had a gas bottle that was filled with auto lpg, and it was spitting and farting and blowing out the whole time. Car gas does not burn as hot as liquid propane.

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Post by GOT MUD »

Tas_Dean wrote:I've used lpg and oxygen in place of oxy acetylene, and I've used it at a couple of different places.
One set I borrowed had a gas bottle that was filled with auto lpg, and it was spitting and farting and blowing out the whole time. Car gas does not burn as hot as liquid propane.

Cheers, Dean
are you sure the gear was okay and the pressures were right cause it shouldnt go like that i know a few place that use this set up and know problems at all
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

Tas_Dean wrote:I've used lpg and oxygen in place of oxy acetylene, and I've used it at a couple of different places.
One set I borrowed had a gas bottle that was filled with auto lpg, and it was spitting and farting and blowing out the whole time. Car gas does not burn as hot as liquid propane.

Cheers, Dean


You are saying you have used an oxy torch with one bottle filled with LPG instead of acetylene?

You cannot make any comparisons between that setup and a gas cooker. Acetylene is the hottest burning molecule because it is so compact (H-C=C-H if anyone is interested - the = is actually a triple bond). There would be a huge difference in burning Acetylene to LPG and the metering of the torch is probably completely wrong for LPG. However the difference between burning straight propane and burning a propane-butane mix would be negligible.
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Post by V8Patrol »

Shadow wrote:i have also heard this

heard we sell craploads of it to asia for like 4c/litre!


Close.....

We sell LPG to Japan for 4cents a litre DELIVERED :shock:

Yet we PAY 40+ cents a litre at the pump for the exact same stuff :bad-words:

I also use automotive LPG in an "oxy Accetelene" setup instead of the accetelene, while its just as good cutting wise its is a little slower to heat the material but the cost differance is more than sufficient enough to "put up with it".
Even my shed is heated with automotive LPG through a "Jetfire" heater, at the moment I'm emptying a car LPG cylinder with the jetfire..... theres a dozen odd empty car LPG cylinders laying around the shed at the moment that I've emptied out over the last winter and this winter. The jetfire has NEVER run on "household" LPG..... and before anyone asks ... I turn the car LPG cylinders upside down to extract the "vapor " instead of the liquid LPG.

As for running a BBQ from the car setup .... I asked the father inlaw ( Automotive LPG GOD !! ) if it was posiable.....
fatherinlaw said rather than wrote:....pi$$ easy !, about 80 bucks in fittings and a couple of hours to set it up....


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Post by N*A*M »

funny this topic came up cos carlton was telling me how to rig up a bbq cylinder as an LPG jerry can. similar principle in reverse. bottom line is liquid for cars, vapour for bbqs. funny he said it was about $80 in fittings too. we could flip the buggy to get the tank upside down, and then cook off the skid plate. :lol:
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Post by Tas_Dean »

ISUZUROVER wrote:
Tas_Dean wrote:I've used lpg and oxygen in place of oxy acetylene, and I've used it at a couple of different places.
One set I borrowed had a gas bottle that was filled with auto lpg, and it was spitting and farting and blowing out the whole time. Car gas does not burn as hot as liquid propane.

Cheers, Dean


You are saying you have used an oxy torch with one bottle filled with LPG instead of acetylene?

You cannot make any comparisons between that setup and a gas cooker. Acetylene is the hottest burning molecule because it is so compact (H-C=C-H if anyone is interested - the = is actually a triple bond). There would be a huge difference in burning Acetylene to LPG and the metering of the torch is probably completely wrong for LPG. However the difference between burning straight propane and burning a propane-butane mix would be negligible.


The comparison I was making was between two torches setup for lpg oxygen, one with auto lpg, and one with barbecue lpg. The one using auto lpg was spitting and farting all over the show. the one with barbecue gas was going quite well.

LPG and Oxygen is becoming very common, it saves you $90 per year in bottle rental, which is quite significant if you are only an occasional user of an oxy torch.

I was not drawing the comparison to oxy and acet, because acet is far better than lpg.

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