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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:28 pm
by DanielS
ludacris wrote:I would be spending that extra cash and go 3rDs. My drop boxes are being taken out and replaced with 3rDs for the simple reason of being hung up and the drop boxes have not corrected my castor to a better perfection. As soon as I change them over and test them I will let you know my opinions of the two.
LudaCris
When are you looking at doing this? I'm really keen to see how they ramp compared to Drop Boxes..
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:37 pm
by Tiny
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:40 pm
by DanielS
Hey Tiny have you got any pic's of 5 links Front ends????
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:43 pm
by ludacris
[color=white]When are you looking at doing this? I'm really keen to see how they ramp compared to Drop Boxes.. [/color]
Today hopfully champ.
LudaCris
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:45 pm
by Tiny
DanielS wrote:Hey Tiny have you got any pic's of 5 links Front ends????
not close up champ but I could grab some if ya keen
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:50 pm
by DanielS
Tiny wrote:DanielS wrote:Hey Tiny have you got any pic's of 5 links Front ends????
not close up champ but I could grab some if ya keen
Yeah no stress, but if you come across some lets us knom am really keen on fitting one. Have seen Brain's From Superior Engineering and its seems to be working really well.
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:52 pm
by DanielS
ludacris wrote:When are you looking at doing this? I'm really keen to see how they ramp compared to Drop Boxes..
Today hopfully champ.
LudaCris
Cool man, keep us informed
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:08 pm
by Hoonz
Tiny wrote:A mate has the Snake arms and there is klunking and evidence of the arms hitting the chassis
they don't actually hit the chassis .. its the spring hat webbing
simple fix is to notch it out till it doesn't hit any more ...
3rds will do this as well
heres my snake racing dropped arms install with pics
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7030&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:27 pm
by Tiny
This is on a GU, don't know if there is a slight difference, and I havn't seen it, just heard from him......he says no probs and they work well
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:37 pm
by viperguy
matey i just bought drop boxes off chris from giant racing..advertises on here..265 delivered to sydney to suit any lift u intend running. personally, as im not gunna be in a situation when the drop boxes are the limiting factor in my vehicles performance, went this way for the simple reason of dollars. will get some flex back after 5inch lift pre loads front suspension..will be heaps for me.. also make it possible to use factory rubber radius arm castor bushes which will aid flex issues..
spoke with matt from m&m engineering about optimum front end set up for patrol.. was almost gunna do a custom swap to 80/100 series radius arms over the diff..but in all honesty the drob boxes will handle 99% of situations..the only clearance issues i can percieve will be reversing up ledges or over obstacles, as when ur driving forwards the radius arms will hit and slide rather than allowing the boxes to hang up..
chris also has his boxes with steep chamfers to help sliding rather than snagging.. just my oppinion though...
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:51 pm
by viperguy
pics of giant racing drop brackets
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:52 pm
by viperguy
another..
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:54 pm
by viperguy
last one..
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:07 pm
by ozy1
both my father an i run drop boxes, we had big issues with steering and the 6" lift, when we fitted drop boxes, all problems are solved,
one other thing i noticed, when i had castor plates, i was chewing out radius arm bushes evry 6 months maybe less,
when the boxes went in, i replaced bushes and they are still in there a year later.....................
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:05 pm
by MRGQ
I have drop boxes in my new GU and are tops
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:16 pm
by YankeeDave
how easy do those look to make, i'm going to make this next week
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:28 am
by morkz
i think i want to go drop boxes
when cass was last out to melbourne he explained the principals to me and i will get better suspension articulation out of drop boxes than the dropped radius arms.
he drew on a piece of paper me i wish i kept to explain it more to you...
either way he'll be here on sunday and will get more info and post
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:02 pm
by ludacris
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:03 pm
by ludacris
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:04 am
by toughnut
DITTO. Much more stable at speed than a 5 link and don't get hung up on anything like drop boxes and put less stress on front driveline components cause the arm articulate better. A little hint though is to remove the front passenger bolt for slow stages and it'll flex way better than any 5 link will.
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:02 am
by fatassgq
A little hint though is to remove the front passenger bolt for slow stages and it'll flex way better than any 5 link will.
I don't want to sound negative but have ya got any pics to prove? I seriously doubt that they would flex as much as five link besides the fact I would never recommend having one of the bolts out even for slow stuff. Can cause some funny handling traits...
Stuff getting out and trying to put the bolt back in once you want to drive normally again.
JMO but show us some pics please. I am sure these arms will let the front diff drop a lot more than standard when both sides are dropping but under articulation is another thing. It is still a three link trying to pretzel the diff when it flexes.
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:38 pm
by toughnut
Don't have pics but on a patrol the main limiting factor on flex for the front is the radius arms not letting the diff twist. Definately not a bad thing but limiting non the less. You'll also find that the passenger side won't drop as much as the drivers side because of this. By removing the front bolt on the passenger side it will let the diff remain level with the drivers side radius arm as the passenger side radius arm drops down on a greater angle. The flex in the front diff with radius arms is not limited by the bushes not flexing on side angles but by the bushes not allowing the diff to twist relative to the angel of the radius arm when it drops down.