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This is the link to the info I am using for my 92 swb. Using toyota cressida box and pump. I brought a whole running 1982 MX62 cressida for $100



http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... -asc-0.php

how hard is it to mount a vitara power steer

easy if you have a vitara motor... kinda...

still requires adaptors - you're better off with a jimny one - they should be cheaper now too seeing as jimny's are 10 years old now.

the cresta box is ok but they $#*+ them selfs when running bigger tires in the bush. A mate of mine went through 3 of them running 33s. They are made for a small car running small rims and small tires. The easiest is to go with the sierra or vitara with Ben-T kit. But if you are wanting to run big tires and you want it to last you really only have 4 options on leafy sierras and they all have there down falls. They will all run off just about any pump is the best part.

Option 1= Toyota IFS box
Its benefit = Easy to come by with pleny of pitmit arm options, Its a proven strong box. The pitmit arm swings backwrds helping with spring clearance.
Its downfall = It mounts on the outside of the chassis rail and on a W/T unless you run a flat pitmit arm with highsteer you will need to run a long bumpstop or you will run into problems under full driver side spring compression.

Option 2 = Toyota landcruiser (60,70 or 80)
Its benefits = VERY VERY CHEAP, there are plenty of hidro steer/steer assist kits for them, plenty of pitmit arm options, they are very strong and once again a proven fix.
Its downfall = they are HUGE, they mount on the outside of the chassis. You have to mount them high, where they mount you have to cover up the vin number stamped into your chassis rail. They swing forward and you will have spring clearance problem. To get them to run correctly you will need highsteer of a crazy Z bar.

Option 3 = Old Ford steering box (late model Galexy are best)
Its benefits = They are fairly cheap and very strong. They have a vey good turn responce, the pitmit arm swings backwards giving better spring clearance.
Its down fall = They are as big as the landcruisers, there are no pitmit arm options, the pitmit arm is very long and hangs very low.

Option 4= Old land rover box
Its Benefits = They are nere perfect... The mount on the inside of the chassis rail. They have pitmit arm options. On a W/T you have no spring problems. They are Very strong and have no problems pushing 40s around all day. There are plenty of them.
Its downfall = They cost WAYYYYY to much. They will leak. The factory pitmit arm is weak and they like to snap.

If I had the money my first choise would be the Land rover one.
Second choise but is my first choise due to $$ would be the IFS box.
Third would be the cruiser one only becaused of the pitmit arm options.
last would be the old ford ones.

I have built a few buggies and a few hunting riggs and all the things above are just what I have found. I am sure some of you out there will dissagree.

But thats just my opinion and observations.

wow thanks champ,,iv got some work to do hahahathat info was golden

V.W.Dave wrote:the cresta box is ok but they $#*+ them selfs when running bigger tires in the bush. A mate of mine went through 3 of them running 33s. They are made for a small car running small rims and small tires. The easiest is to go with the sierra or vitara with Ben-T kit. But if you are wanting to run big tires and you want it to last you really only have 4 options on leafy sierras and they all have there down falls. They will all run off just about any pump is the best part.

Option 1= Toyota IFS box
Its benefit = Easy to come by with pleny of pitmit arm options, Its a proven strong box. The pitmit arm swings backwrds helping with spring clearance.
Its downfall = It mounts on the outside of the chassis rail and on a W/T unless you run a flat pitmit arm with highsteer you will need to run a long bumpstop or you will run into problems under full driver side spring compression.

Option 2 = Toyota landcruiser (60,70 or 80)
Its benefits = VERY VERY CHEAP, there are plenty of hidro steer/steer assist kits for them, plenty of pitmit arm options, they are very strong and once again a proven fix.
Its downfall = they are HUGE, they mount on the outside of the chassis. You have to mount them high, where they mount you have to cover up the vin number stamped into your chassis rail. They swing forward and you will have spring clearance problem. To get them to run correctly you will need highsteer of a crazy Z bar.

Option 3 = Old Ford steering box (late model Galexy are best)
Its benefits = They are fairly cheap and very strong. They have a vey good turn responce, the pitmit arm swings backwards giving better spring clearance.
Its down fall = They are as big as the landcruisers, there are no pitmit arm options, the pitmit arm is very long and hangs very low.

Option 4= Old land rover box
Its Benefits = They are nere perfect... The mount on the inside of the chassis rail. They have pitmit arm options. On a W/T you have no spring problems. They are Very strong and have no problems pushing 40s around all day. There are plenty of them.
Its downfall = They cost WAYYYYY to much. They will leak. The factory pitmit arm is weak and they like to snap.

If I had the money my first choise would be the Land rover one.
Second choise but is my first choise due to $$ would be the IFS box.
Third would be the cruiser one only becaused of the pitmit arm options.
last would be the old ford ones.

I have built a few buggies and a few hunting riggs and all the things above are just what I have found. I am sure some of you out there will dissagree.

But thats just my opinion and observations.

V.W.Dave wrote: Option 2 = Toyota landcruiser (60,70 or 80)
Its benefits = VERY VERY CHEAP, there are plenty of hidro steer/steer assist kits for them, plenty of pitmit arm options, they are very strong and once again a proven fix.
Its downfall = they are HUGE, they mount on the outside of the chassis. You have to mount them high, where they mount you have to cover up the vin number stamped into your chassis rail. They swing forward and you will have spring clearance problem. To get them to run correctly you will need highsteer of a crazy Z bar.

I use the 79 series box and forward facing arm, never had spring clearance problems, but I run 1 inch wheel spacers and 3 inch bumpstop ext. and custom front springs with chassis ext. I dont run highsteer or Z link and dont know why you would say you will need to. The Landcruiser box would be my pick.

You're missing the best box of all there V.W. Dave - LHD IFS hilux box.

Rear swing pitman arm, inside chassis mount when used in a RHD car, $299 outright rebuilt and tapped for hydro from Trail Gear. Lots of pitman arm options available too.

That's what I'll be running in my next car (despite having a pile of vitara boxes lying around)

Steve.

VR Rodeo wrote:

V.W.Dave wrote: Option 2 = Toyota landcruiser (60,70 or 80)
Its benefits = VERY VERY CHEAP, there are plenty of hidro steer/steer assist kits for them, plenty of pitmit arm options, they are very strong and once again a proven fix.
Its downfall = they are HUGE, they mount on the outside of the chassis. You have to mount them high, where they mount you have to cover up the vin number stamped into your chassis rail. They swing forward and you will have spring clearance problem. To get them to run correctly you will need highsteer of a crazy Z bar.

I use the 79 series box and forward facing arm, never had spring clearance problems, but I run 1 inch wheel spacers and 3 inch bumpstop ext. and custom front springs with chassis ext. I dont run highsteer or Z link and dont know why you would say you will need to. The Landcruiser box would be my pick.

SORRY SORRY You are 100% correct. I didnt re-read before I posted that. I ment to say on a SPOA you will have to run highsteer or a crazy Z link. Your 3 inch bump stops are saving you problems. I know a few people that have snapped pitmit arms on cruiser steering set ups from the spring compressing and hitting each other.

Gwagensteve wrote:You're missing the best box of all there V.W. Dave - LHD IFS hilux box.

Rear swing pitman arm, inside chassis mount when used in a RHD car, $299 outright rebuilt and tapped for hydro from Trail Gear. Lots of pitman arm options available too.

That's what I'll be running in my next car (despite having a pile of vitara boxes lying around)

Steve.

HMMMMM very interesting never even thought to think back to my homeland... Very interesting Steve if I could I think i could give you a hug ... You may have just solved my biggest problem in my build.
Using the LHD IFS box it would mount on the inside of the rail giving better tierod angles and it would keep it away from the spring..... VERY NICE
Thanks Steve...

Gwagensteve wrote:You're missing the best box of all there V.W. Dave - LHD IFS hilux box.

Rear swing pitman arm, inside chassis mount when used in a RHD car, $299 outright rebuilt and tapped for hydro from Trail Gear. Lots of pitman arm options available too.

That's what I'll be running in my next car (despite having a pile of vitara boxes lying around)

Steve.

You were a little off on the prices.
http://www.trail-gear.com/ifs-steering-boxes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I will get my dad to bring one over for me in a few weeks

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Toy ... 25621.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Tra ... p-992.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There's a couple of $299 options.

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Toy ... 25621.html

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Tra ... p-992.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There's a couple of $299 options.

Steve.

HOLLLLLLYYYY $#*+ batman.... I emailed 3 different people over there on shipping price. the ceapest was $215USD hmmmm not looking to be such a good idea. Hmmm my dad is coming over late september I may have to wait for it.