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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:35 pm
by -Nemesis-
Whats it in?
I'm having trouble sourcing a front sump half cut... I'll keep trying though, I don't want to modify the sump unless I have to....
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:49 pm
by Yarno
It's a 91' 4runner with 2" b/lift, it clears the diff by 10mm and the bonnet by bugger all....but it does fit
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:51 pm
by -Nemesis-
Oh really......?
Is that legal from an engineering point of view? The 10mm clearance? I guess it must be.....
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:43 am
by TWISTY
Do you have any pics of the clearance of the sump above the diff?
It's good to know that a mid sump can fit with no mods but.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:42 pm
by UZJ40
i have the front sump in my 40, the rear one was real hard to find.
as it turmed out the front works ok
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:59 pm
by Yarno
TWISTY_TOY94 wrote:Do you have any pics of the clearance of the sump above the diff?
It's good to know that a mid sump can fit with no mods but.
mods are 2" body lift like was said before...
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:40 pm
by -Nemesis-
I think you'll find he was talking about mods to the sump. As we've been led to believe it is required to clear the IFS untill now....
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:56 pm
by mico
I'll try and get some pics of the sump clearance if i can get a camera
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:09 pm
by -Nemesis-
Thanks mate, Twisty's is already done, but mines about to start....
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:18 pm
by extra niss
can any one tell me how make a custom rear bowl sump for a quad cam cos i am currenty trying to fit one to a mates lux with high steer it is going to be a tight fit
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:22 pm
by slosh
Anyone got a pic of 2uz (LS470) sump?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:28 pm
by -Nemesis-
extra niss wrote:can any one tell me how make a custom rear bowl sump for a quad cam cos i am currenty trying to fit one to a mates lux with high steer it is going to be a tight fit
No, but I know alot of people use CRS's rear sump. It's about $600 though from memory, though it looks very shmick.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:02 pm
by MissDrew
-Nemesis- wrote:extra niss wrote:can any one tell me how make a custom rear bowl sump for a quad cam cos i am currenty trying to fit one to a mates lux with high steer it is going to be a tight fit
No, but I know alot of people use CRS's rear sump. It's about $600 though from memory, though it looks very shmick.
I just fitted one last night, it was $575 including frieght. Have a look at my hilux`s thread
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=47233 sump pics are the last things I posted.
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:48 am
by mico
heres a couple of pics of sump clearnce
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:35 am
by grazza
I had a PM from BowTieGQ asking about my experiences and thought I would share my reply here, given the interest:
G'Day BowTieGQ,
I am generally happy with the Lexus V8 but I had a lot of dramas with the assholes who installed it. Given I wanted to keep the Nissan manual box the fabrication of the adaptor plate was more difficult than expected, but this I blame 100% on the installers. If you speak to others on this forum, like BUBS, they have better ideas about it.
I dont have a lot more power, and this was not my primary reason for the conversion. I wanted a reliable motor and have always wanted a V8. The 4.0L is not as torquey as the old six and tends to stall in low-range when rock crawling. To fix this I am getting gearmaster gears for the transfer case. Maybe a heavier flywheel would also help. Dont forget the Nissan 5-speed is a big, heavy box.
I dont think I got a great engine buts thats this risk you run with import motors. I have been told the big-end bearing is noisy but it will probably last a long time.
I expect in a couple of years I will swap it for the 4.3L motor with VVTi variable cam timing - these have more torque.
Again, dont do it for pure power (in a GQ) but its smooth, quiet and nice to drive, just needs more torque. If you swap out the factory computer and play with the heads and cams they can produce big horsepower but I do not want to go that far. I get better fuel economy that the old six.
-Grazza
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:27 pm
by -Nemesis-
mico wrote:heres a couple of pics of sump clearnce
That doesn't look bad at all.... And that's only with a 2" body lift?
I think someone fed us a pearler Twisty......
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:44 pm
by Craigus
Is that Nemisis from MOHAA.com?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:58 pm
by TWISTY
-Nemesis- wrote:mico wrote:heres a couple of pics of sump clearnce
That doesn't look bad at all.... And that's only with a 2" body lift?
I think someone fed us a pearler Twisty......
Yeah I know Nem, the clearance looks fine....probably about the clearance I've for with my front sump from the steering arm.
Actually, I just looked at my pic...and it seems I've got a fair bit more clearance...but its good to know that a mid sump is able to fit with no mods and a 2" bodylift.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:55 pm
by -Nemesis-
Craigus wrote:Is that Nemisis from MOHAA.com?
Whatch'ya doin over here Jeckle..... This is for the 4 wheeled demons, not 2 heheheh
Yeah, Looks like there'd be alot more room to move with the front sump Dave...
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:19 pm
by Craigus
-Nemesis- wrote:Whatch'ya doin over here Jeckle..... This is for the 4 wheeled demons, not 2 heheheh
Haha The Husky's up for sale (
any one want it?) and I'm turning to the dark side mate.. Should have me a 4WD very soon.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:30 pm
by -Nemesis-
Aahhh excellent. What you going to buy? Let us know as soon as you get one!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:42 pm
by Craigus
Sorry to hijack this thread..
Around a 94-96 model..... erm.... Still deciding between a Turbo deisel Pajero or a Landcruiser. Have to remember it needs to be a family car/4WD.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:28 pm
by mico
Yeah I know Nem, the clearance looks fine....probably about the clearance I've for with my front sump from the steering arm.
Actually, I just looked at my pic...and it seems I've got a fair bit more clearance...but its good to know that a mid sump is able to fit with no mods and a 2" bodylift.
I does sit very close to the bonnet though!
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:28 pm
by Meldge
Could it not be a simple as cutting the sump and rewelding it?
If it practically square around the top could that work or is there more to it...
I'm guessing though that I could be just talking about a cover, there must be more under there, but if not, cut it down, spin it 180 degrees and re-attach...
I'm ready for a bagging as it can't be that simple for some reason though...
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:31 pm
by Meldge
And in regards to the computers.....
How would performance and longevity be on gas with this motor?
If fitting Gas, could you not ditch the entire comuter, no matter which one you have, and fit a new comp for the gas, or is it normally just an additional setup for gas?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:49 pm
by TWISTY
Can't help you with the GAS question....there was a discussion about it on the Lextreme forum...but I'm not sure on the details.
As for the sump, they aren't too hard to modifiy if you are only modifying the lower sump. The 1UZ's have a 2 piece sump...the upper alloy part, and the lower steel part. You have to also modfify the pickup to suit, and preferably keep the same capacity, or more.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:49 pm
by mico
How would performance and longevity be on gas with this motor?
If fitting Gas, could you not ditch the entire comuter, no matter which one you have, and fit a new comp for the gas, or is it normally just an additional setup for gas?
apparently they like gas, if you use straight gas you can run an ignition only computer, but if you want to run dual fuel you have to run a fuel/ignition style computer. If you want to run straight gas it'd pobably be worth while looking in to gas research carbys more torque and better fuel economy
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:40 am
by wannaberacer
-Nemesis- wrote:mico wrote:heres a couple of pics of sump clearnce
That doesn't look bad at all.... And that's only with a 2" body lift?
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Umm...unless I am confused....it wouldn't make any diff if you had a 2" body lift or a 10" body lifty in terms of sump clearance. Lifting the body does not lift the motor away from the diff. Yes it will help with clearance at the top of the motor, and closing the bonnet.
Unless you are talking about a 2" susp lift...which may change things...but not for IFS (unless the diff has been dropped also).
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:49 am
by TWISTY
This is for the beginning of the conversion, where customs mounts are being made for the motor. The 2" bodylift allows the mounts to be made to sit the motor higher above the chassis rails, incresing the clearance between the sump and diff/susp/steering etc....
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:51 am
by wannaberacer
OK makes more sense now
