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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:49 pm
by droopypete
munga wrote:i think it was Dewse who cut his lid off his hardtop. weighed in at 53kg and the rear door was 30kg. ish.
so take 50kg off the highest point of the car, then stretch the wheelbase out 6or so inches. thats about the difference. i have a tintop nt and it feels tippier than a lwb
or to say it another way, take a soft top add 50KG (if that is the weight) to the highest part of the car then add a roof top tent ?KG!!
depending on your style of off road driving this may be fine, personaly, I would be shitting myself in any off camber situation.
on a similar topic, has anyone wieghed a fibreglass hard top?
short or long wheel base?
I think that 50KG would come up pretty quick in the LWB.
Peter.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:23 am
by Krankieone
[quote="surfisho"]
have seen a few fiberglass hard tops around the $5k mark.
although i dont think a roof top tent would go well on the fiberglass top either.
quote]
I paid $2K for mine with the roof rack which would be solid enough to put a roof tent on
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:24 am
by Krankieone
[quote="surfisho"]
have seen a few fiberglass hard tops around the $5k mark.
although i dont think a roof top tent would go well on the fiberglass top either.
quote]
I paid $2K for mine with the roof rack which would be solid enough to put a roof tent on
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:48 am
by munga
saw that on ebay. well done.
did you get the trailer too for that price?
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:11 am
by grimbo
I don't reckon that would be anywhere near strong enough to support a tent and at least 1 maybe 2 people. You'd be looking at say 35kg for the tent plus 90kg or a 6'1" bloke plus his wife? (i'm not even going to try and guesstimate a woman's weight). But lets say you are heading towards 200kg all up.
The front section would bend and I reckon the rest would collapse as well. The other problem as I mentioned is that the Sierra would move around way too much when you are in the tent unless external poles and proably jack stands were used to keep it locked in solid
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:43 am
by droopypete
grimbo wrote: The other problem as I mentioned is that the Sierra would move around way too much when you are in the tent
Don't worry Graham, surfisho has a water bed at home he is used to it
(oh and his wife weighs 62KG's
)
Peter
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:41 pm
by surfisho
hahaha, i wish, water bed would destroy my back, although, even my innersprung acts like a water bed at least once a month ;-)
no in fact she was 48kg. problems is i was 116kg, so yep 200KG all up would be about right. might topple the poor sierra if anything exciting happens, but i cant see the sierra being on its side often.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:38 pm
by suzy
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:10 pm
by surfisho
thanks suzy, cute rig, doggy looks like "had enough" !
im in WA too.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:19 pm
by droopypete
Ok, it has been a few days,
have you found any factory, wide track, 1.3L, LWB, zooks yet?
Peter.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:57 am
by 84ZOOKSTA
If you want to carry load on the roof you can make up a system like this.
Simon....
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:41 pm
by Krankieone
munga wrote:saw that on ebay. well done.
did you get the trailer too for that price?
Yep
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:11 am
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I don't reckon that would be anywhere near strong enough to support a tent and at least 1 maybe 2 people. You'd be looking at say 35kg for the tent plus 90kg or a 6'1" bloke plus his wife? (i'm not even going to try and guesstimate a woman's weight). But lets say you are heading towards 200kg all up.
The front section would bend and I reckon the rest would collapse as well. The other problem as I mentioned is that the Sierra would move around way too much when you are in the tent unless external poles and proably jack stands were used to keep it locked in solid
the rack weighs about 100 lbs it 'd suport 200kgs but the suspension rocking could be a problem
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:20 pm
by DrCarlo
I do about 100km on average a day in my zook. It goes nicely with no issues. I have given it a full service, replaced a few dodgy hoses and its going sweet!
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:31 pm
by DeWsE
droopypete wrote:Ok, it has been a few days,
have you found any factory, wide track, 1.3L, LWB, zooks yet?
Peter.
I have found a factory NT, 1.3 LWB glass roof zook, and I have WT diffs
But who wants that junks
I would say a roof top tent most probably isn't a great idea. but for mild wheeling and some good camping it could work.
A Dudelux exo will carry it nicely.
Grimbo don't forget your springs are a lot softer then a standard.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:53 pm
by droopypete
I have found 5, factory WT, 1.3 LWB soft top zooks
But who wants that junk
Secret Squirell.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:02 pm
by nicbeer
droopypete wrote:
I have found 5, factory WT, 1.3 LWB soft top zooks
But who wants that junk
Secret Squirell.
They wouldn't miss one would they. Just need the body.
On the tech. what is a LWB cab-chassis called and a LWB wellbody? I have seen both and wondering if they go under the same name LWB or is one different than the other.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:24 pm
by droopypete
nicbeer wrote:droopypete wrote:
I have found 5, factory WT, 1.3 LWB soft top zooks
But who wants that junk
Secret Squirell.
They wouldn't miss one would they. Just need the body.
On the tech. what is a LWB cab-chassis called and a LWB wellbody? I have seen both and wondering if they go under the same name LWB or is one different than the other.
I have always refered to them as,
hard top,
soft top,
ute,
and LWB hard body, most people seem to understand what I am saying.
and af course the body style is prefixed by all the other bits,
W/T
N/T,
1L,
1.3L
ect, ect.
Peter.
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:06 pm
by suzy
all this in a zook
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:12 pm
by nicbeer
Q1: where was that. looks nice down there.
Q2: was there still room for the drinks.
was this 1 person or two inc the dog.
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:29 pm
by suzy
nicbeer wrote:Q1: where was that. looks nice down there.
Q2: was there still room for the drinks.
was this 1 person or two inc the dog.
Q1 :Collie Q2 :40l engel + 40l dry food Q3 : me the missus and the dog
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:46 pm
by suzi_on_46s
suzy wrote:nicbeer wrote:Q1: where was that. looks nice down there.
Q2: was there still room for the drinks.
was this 1 person or two inc the dog.
Q1 :Collie Q2 :40l engel + 40l dry food Q3 : me the missus and the dog
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is that in wa?? if so where
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:56 pm
by alien
Collie
East of Bunbury
some good tracks to do out there from what ive seen too!
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:57 am
by suzy
wa collie
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:43 am
by suzi_on_46s
ive been to collie 4wding before never remember seeing the cliffs to the water.
kyle p
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:27 pm
by suzy
just before collie,like 5km before.
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:25 am
by surfisho
Hi everyone, thanks for all the replies. After looking around at other vehicles. I have decided to go with the sierra, short term, until I an can afford something a lot bigger. Not that I cant afford it, but the sierra will help me save for a near new troopy.
A few questions.
Is it better to buy a beat up old sierra for $1k or go for something already running ok for $4k?
can I expect much for $4k?
and how much would it cost to respray a sierra hard top? (no fancy paint).
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:42 pm
by droopypete
I would spend $3000 or so and get a better one har tops are cheaper than soft tops (in Melb anyway) look around and get a goodie you will be happier in the long run.
This advice negates your second question
Peter.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:52 pm
by surfisho
have found a few soft tops i like, but the key concern for me is security. i will be carrying camping gear to the value of $3k at times, and I wanna know its not going to be easy to get into.
does anyone know if you can retro fit the hard fiberglass tops to the soft top machines? and if so how secure are the fiberglass tops? ie how do they lock down.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:13 am
by grimbo
yes you can retro fit a fibreglass hardtop if you can find one. They are pretty hard to come by and new ones are very $$$. be cheaper to get a hardtop to begin with. Security wise the fibreglass top isn't the weak link, Sierras are very easy to break into regardless of soft top or hardtop. However a soft top is a more likely target as they are perceived as the more easy target.
Which ever way you go I would not recommend leaving camping stuff in your car if you aren't there
Jimny 2004
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:36 pm
by MissJimny
I bought a Jimny at Xmas and I was just wondering if it should be sitting on 4K revs when I am doing 100km/ph... before you ask it's in 5th gear. First time 4wd owner and lady driver (ie don't really know anythng about cars!!!!)