Outer Limits 4x4 Board

GUJohnno wrote:Public land should be kept open to all public.
Only go down that route as a last chance to keep it.

This is the last chance...

this has been ogin on fo years

Yes but two would become 4 and before you know it 4 is 8 and so on and they could all say there’s only two of us. It’s sad to think where going to have another place closed its sad really. It is fun in there I can’t say its not but shit its that bad now that I wont go in because I break to much stuff. You have to go to hard to get anywhere.
If it was fixed every year there would be no problem as soon as it’s getting to hard it should be closed and fixed its easy that’s the way it was done years ago I know people that were in clubs that had working bee’s down there and even held races in and out between clubs. But somewhere it all got lost and every one got to busy to help fix and repair.
And now its come to this ? “what do we doâ€

DR Frankenstine wrote:

crankycruiser wrote:Well they were fighting to get it shut to clubs only...

Would keep me happy...

cause at the end of the day any damage that isnt acceptable can actually be blamed on someone/group..

I agree clubs do make a mess in places like southport!!

6,8,10 vehicles all trying to impress each other, one getting bogged, the next trying to go around, another going cross country to find hard ground. seen it heaps of times.
why not restict it to parties of 2 vehicles only.

hence we say clubs afilated with the trva. ya carnt do that shit when u are in a club.
u must up hold the "tred lightly policy" otherwise u are just another idiot in a 4b given us all bad names.
Basicly the place will be shut

Well sadly enuf.. the reason i love the place so much is cause i can be BLOODY hard...

Its a challange.. and it can b a wikid one at that

Indeed people making the track wider is a main problem, 1 small deep track wouldn't make such an impact, look at the satelite picture i posted here:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=sydney+au ... &t=k&hl=en

Thats how wide people have made it lol!!

I hear you...
More often it's better to stick to the track and not contribute to "track creep"

How true but sometimes it is hard not to get off the track eg find harder ground or to go around someone that has become bogged to the point you have to get in front to pull them out or to find suitable winching points.
Anyway what’s done is done and no talking can fix it but over time it will come back you watch if it closed to us in ten years you wont even know anyone was there and they will have some big hotel on it with stuck up rich people looking out eating tea.
5 star camping guys you watch

[quote="bushytas"]Yes but two would become 4 and before you know it 4 is 8 and so on and they could all say there’s only two of us. It’s sad to think where going to have another place closed its sad really. It is fun in there I can’t say its not but shit its that bad now that I wont go in because I break to much stuff. You have to go to hard to get anywhere.
If it was fixed every year there would be no problem as soon as it’s getting to hard it should be closed and fixed its easy that’s the way it was done years ago I know people that were in clubs that had working bee’s down there and even held races in and out between clubs. But somewhere it all got lost and every one got to busy to help fix and repair.
And now its come to this ? “what do we doâ€

GUJohnno wrote:Public land should be kept open to all public.
Only go down that route as a last chance to keep it.

GUjohnno is right public land for all the people not just bushwalking
I am told the flash new camp site they are planing is silted up mudflats .
That 's not a option and if that happened how long before that is closed anyway.
One of the aerial photos is dated 1948 how much money have parks spent on track work since then FARK ALL

We need to find out when they plan to close it and if its worth going in and doing some track work this season, I don't think it will make much difference but I'll try anything .

Cheers Scott

[quote="DR Frankenstine"][quote="bushytas"]Yes but two would become 4 and before you know it 4 is 8 and so on and they could all say there’s only two of us. It’s sad to think where going to have another place closed its sad really. It is fun in there I can’t say its not but shit its that bad now that I wont go in because I break to much stuff. You have to go to hard to get anywhere.
If it was fixed every year there would be no problem as soon as it’s getting to hard it should be closed and fixed its easy that’s the way it was done years ago I know people that were in clubs that had working bee’s down there and even held races in and out between clubs. But somewhere it all got lost and every one got to busy to help fix and repair.
And now its come to this ? “what do we doâ€

derelict_frog wrote:Indeed people making the track wider is a main problem, 1 small deep track wouldn't make such an impact, look at the satelite picture i posted here:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=sydney+au ... &t=k&hl=en

Thats how wide people have made it lol!!

Even at a high zoom level it doesnt look to bad concidering on the ground it looks way worse. I think the logging coups look way, way worse maybe they should close logging to. BLOODY GREENIES

OK
I spoke with parks today and they told me that all the lagoon tracks will be open on the 1-9-05 as per normal. The proposal hasn't been passed or signed by the minister yet and won't be closed until it is. That includes all funding approval etc. They said It will be open at least for this season and maybe if enough preasure is applied (maybe a rally). It may stay open.
The guy I spoke to also said he to is a 4wder and loves going into the lagoon as well. He also said they were trying to get some other tracks open from forestry that would be graded extreme to meet the needs of hard core 4 wheelers.
I for one will be fighting

Hello all

A question i would like to raise is that in all the plans and options they do not seem to have concidered the campsite at Black Swan. It would take the strain off the south port campsite that they mention as a large point and most of the tracks in there are already on high grownd another point that they mention

And depending on the weather, depends on what camp site is sheltered have they looked at this at all????

In my view this needs to be about the whole place not just one part of it as with the sat photos if you look around the whole area there is alot more dammage done by either logging and farming are they going to ban these too

Chears Bruce

DR Frankenstine wrote:OK
I spoke with parks today and they told me that all the lagoon tracks will be open on the 1-9-05 as per normal. The proposal hasn't been passed or signed by the minister yet and won't be closed until it is. That includes all funding approval etc. They said It will be open at least for this season and maybe if enough preasure is applied (maybe a rally). It may stay open.
The guy I spoke to also said he to is a 4wder and loves going into the lagoon as well. He also said they were trying to get some other tracks open from forestry that would be graded extreme to meet the needs of hard core 4 wheelers.
I for one will be fighting

I will be right behind you. I think a rally would help if done right and know alot of 4x4ers who would be there too....... i can think of 35 of hand that are local

DR Frankenstine wrote:OK
I spoke with parks today and they told me that all the lagoon tracks will be open on the 1-9-05 as per normal. The proposal hasn't been passed or signed by the minister yet and won't be closed until it is. That includes all funding approval etc. They said It will be open at least for this season and maybe if enough preasure is applied (maybe a rally). It may stay open.
The guy I spoke to also said he to is a 4wder and loves going into the lagoon as well. He also said they were trying to get some other tracks open from forestry that would be graded extreme to meet the needs of hard core 4 wheelers.
I for one will be fighting

So who's the minister and when do we start bombing them


I mean with emails guys

So who's the minister and when do we start bombing them


I mean with emails guys [/quote]



What You dont actually want to blow them up Scott?.......... I'm Shocked

SWAT wrote:So who's the minister and when do we start bombing them


I mean with emails guys

What You dont actually want to blow them up Scott?.......... I'm Shocked[/quote]

Well we could talk about it

what eva it takes i'm in. i'll help ya blow em up scott
Maybe a petition might be in order couldn't hurt could it

D & his Datsun wrote:what eva it takes i'm in. i'll help ya blow em up scott
Maybe a petition might be in order couldn't hurt could it

Get one going I'll sign it and know a lot of others that will too

Maby we sould talk to somone about fencing the marsh off while we still have it open?

DR Frankenstine wrote:OK
I spoke with parks today and they told me that all the lagoon tracks will be open on the 1-9-05 as per normal. The proposal hasn't been passed or signed by the minister yet and won't be closed until it is. That includes all funding approval etc. They said It will be open at least for this season and maybe if enough preasure is applied (maybe a rally). It may stay open.
The guy I spoke to also said he to is a 4wder and loves going into the lagoon as well. He also said they were trying to get some other tracks open from forestry that would be graded extreme to meet the needs of hard core 4 wheelers.
I for one will be fighting

Well its doesnt sound too bad...

If we can get the email addy of the bloke we need to annoy the piss out of then that would be good....

I'll sign almost anything to keep the lagoon open...

Its like my second home

Ok lets get a central location or a couple of them with our own plan.(A sensible one).
Place it in a few locations around the state and get signatures.
I can organise 2 places in moonah and 1 in hobart and maybe two in launceston and 1 in devonport
Word of mouth should do the trick but it wouldn't hurt to advertise in the local papers.
I'll personally pay for 1 add.
C'mon someone good with this sort of stuff get something drawn up.
Peter

DR Frankenstine wrote:break stuff!!
I go in there all the time and I have NEVER broken anything.. NEVER.
must be a nissan thing

Other then the time DAZ and I dragged your sorry arse nearly all the way in and back out again

Guts wrote:

DR Frankenstine wrote:break stuff!!
I go in there all the time and I have NEVER broken anything.. NEVER.
must be a nissan thing

Other then the time DAZ and I dragged your sorry arse nearly all the way in and back out again

It was actually DAZ and you never towed me once ( I recovered you twice) and what do you expect with a bog std vehicle and bald 31's
And I never broke anything

DR Frankenstine wrote:OK
I spoke with parks today and they told me that all the lagoon tracks will be open on the 1-9-05 as per normal. The proposal hasn't been passed or signed by the minister yet and won't be closed until it is. That includes all funding approval etc. They said It will be open at least for this season and maybe if enough preasure is applied (maybe a rally). It may stay open.
The guy I spoke to also said he to is a 4wder and loves going into the lagoon as well. He also said they were trying to get some other tracks open from forestry that would be graded extreme to meet the needs of hard core 4 wheelers.
I for one will be fighting

Sounds awesome, hope to see you in there the opening weekend then or soon after to make the most of it. A 4wder on the inside can only be good!!!

A 4wder on the inside can only be good!!!

they are the only people you can trust to help ya when your in the shit

That is all starting to sound a better hopfully we can some sort of access

Well why dont we get an email partition started .

All we need is, "i think" 200 or more people to sign it.

Then All we need to do is send it every one and when it gets to 200 the last person to sign it emails it into parks.

easy enough to make and word ??

DR Frankenstine wrote:And I never broke anything

Ya thats because it wouldn`t run long enough to break anything

Ok guys if you can all email these people it should help to get our point across
But please be nice about it.
The same email to everyone should do fine
Get everyone you know to do this and the powers that be may take notice of us.



Judy Jackson's email address is judy.jackson@justice.tas.gov.au
Hobart office
10th Floor, 10 Murray Street
Hobart Tasmania 7000
Telephone: (03) 6233 4180
Facsimile: (03) 6233 2671
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President 4wd Tasmania formerly the Tasmanian Recreational Vehicles Association
ghdaly@netspace.net.au
PO Box 662, GLENORCHY, TASMANIA, 7010
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Parks have a web Enquiries and Feedback form it’s at
http://www.parks.tas.gov.au/enquiries.html
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Also can you send me the email so I can get an idea of the numbers of people?
I will pass this info on when someone steps up to take control.
keep_southport_open@yahoo.com.au

Is this the way to go or If anyone has a better idea speak up


Cheers Scott