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Mickey Thompsons new Muddies are starting to arrive in Oz

Baja MTZ Radial

I think the MudStars come out of the Cooper factory.

Most of the local guys here run BF MT's, a few use MotorWay Muddies (retreads), and one or two use the claws. Myself, I've got Maxxis Mudzillas, but personally, there quite soft, work really well in the mud etc. - but just dont last.

I'm heading to the Cape next year, and i'll probly run a 33" mud tyre, something quiet, but has some bitey teeth.

Claws are good though. Wishing i hadn't sold my 35's now....

Coxy

I think I will ceck out the MT radial claws, anyone know a good place in Sydney to get them ??

Cheers

Beefa

Ace tyres in Smithfield (Victoria rd)sell MT,Cooper,Good Year etc.
Personally I wouldn't buy radial claw for every day use and only moderate 4wdriving.

Also, service at Ace tyres is bit on low side.
Couple of months ago I bought 4 tyres and booked time and day for fitting.
Got there on time and ask how long it would take and answer was: "an hour"
Three hour later I had to get up and ask what's happening as no one found it apropriate to let me know why I am waiting.
At the end I waited over 4 hours and wheel alignment wasn't done properly anyway.

AJ wrote:Mickey Thompsons new Muddies are starting to arrive in Oz

Baja MTZ Radial

See the sizes though....they only come in 15.5 inch wide!

45punkbus wrote:

known 2 wrote:procomp x-terians have a similar tread patern to claws and a cheaper (especialy in 35i) what do u guys rate them against claw they don't seem as chunky

but as it stands they are my options 35i xterains or 33i claws.

how much are they for the procomp x-terians?

$ 328 for 33" and they are better than MTR's and BFG MT's its a big call but i know had them all and Pro Comp X-Terrians are the stuff

xplot wrote:

45punkbus wrote:

known 2 wrote:procomp x-terians have a similar tread patern to claws and a cheaper (especialy in 35i) what do u guys rate them against claw they don't seem as chunky

but as it stands they are my options 35i xterains or 33i claws.

how much are they for the procomp x-terians?

$ 328 for 33" and they are better than MTR's and BFG MT's its a big call but i know had them all and Pro Comp X-Terrians are the stuff

If your talking about the radil claw, then looking at the price that xplot said, the claws are cheaper, i could get 33's for around $280, and i got my 35's for $295 balanced and fitted

GQTrav wrote:

xplot wrote:

45punkbus wrote:

known 2 wrote:procomp x-terians have a similar tread patern to claws and a cheaper (especialy in 35i) what do u guys rate them against claw they don't seem as chunky

but as it stands they are my options 35i xterains or 33i claws.

how much are they for the procomp x-terians?

$ 328 for 33" and they are better than MTR's and BFG MT's its a big call but i know had them all and Pro Comp X-Terrians are the stuff

If your talking about the radil claw, then looking at the price that xplot said, the claws are cheaper, i could get 33's for around $280, and i got my 35's for $295 balanced and fitted

yet a radial claw is not for on-road use not like pro comp x-terrians

radial claws are designed for on road use... its the bias ply claws that are not designed for on road use...

That they are. My 33" Claws are better on road than my set of (worn) 31" BfG Muds.....

GQTrav wrote:

xplot wrote:

45punkbus wrote:

known 2 wrote:procomp x-terians have a similar tread patern to claws and a cheaper (especialy in 35i) what do u guys rate them against claw they don't seem as chunky

but as it stands they are my options 35i xterains or 33i claws.

how much are they for the procomp x-terians?

$ 328 for 33" and they are better than MTR's and BFG MT's its a big call but i know had them all and Pro Comp X-Terrians are the stuff

If your talking about the radil claw, then looking at the price that xplot said, the claws are cheaper, i could get 33's for around $280, and i got my 35's for $295 balanced and fitted

where were those prices? i might have to give them a call! best price so far was $305 for the claws

i got mine from tyrepower in diamond creek - phone number is 9438 6677 thats for 290 a corner... great blokes there to, they balanced and fitted them after hours only coz i wanted em that day

-Nemesis- wrote:That they are. My 33" Claws are better on road than my set of (worn) 31" BfG Muds.....

Really?

Yeha i'm serious.... I wan't going to add the worn bit....

-Nemesis- wrote:Yeha i'm serious.... I wan't going to add the worn bit....

Hey alrob, those prices were from Procomp in Ringwood, however i think they now operate under a different name, i would also recommend giving Trail, Track and Outback in Ferntree Gully a call.

My radial claws gripped better then my MTR's on and off the road and they look better too. There is a slight vibration when you come to a stop.

Yeah I noticed that too, the tread blocks do vibrate the truck at anything under about 5km/h.
None the less, Radial Claws are excellent on the black top (and rule off it ofcourse.) They seem to be wearing ok too.
Though as an all round tyre, if you don't need to tackle anything within a Claws appetite, you may be better with a more road orientated tyre to begin with. Mainly as they are getting very loud with age, which is cool for the tuff bling appeal, but can get annoying when carting friends around etc trying to talk.....

45punkbus wrote:radial claws are designed for on road use... its the bias ply claws that are not designed for on road use...

Do some more research buddy only 10% road and 90% off road

xplot wrote:

45punkbus wrote:radial claws are designed for on road use... its the bias ply claws that are not designed for on road use...

Do some more research buddy only 10% road and 90% off road

where did you pull that from?

emailed mickey thompson and they said that to me

xplot wrote:

45punkbus wrote:radial claws are designed for on road use... its the bias ply claws that are not designed for on road use...

Do some more research buddy only 10% road and 90% off road

i think he meant that the radials are designed as a tyre which are able to be used on road, unlike the bias, which from what i understand are illegal on road, and are as loud as all buggery. although, from the opinions of the majority, while there is the 10%/90% split on/off road, they perform better on the bitumen then some BFG's AT's! go figure

Boopa wrote:

AJ wrote:Mickey Thompsons new Muddies are starting to arrive in Oz

Baja MTZ Radial

See the sizes though....they only come in 15.5 inch wide!

15.in? Sweet! That'll do me! wonder how much they will go for...

Just go with the radial claws. They grip like all buggery, handle on road as good as most of the AT's (as said above) cost the same, and look SH!T HOT!
Plus everyone can here you comin and whip around thinkin "ooh here comes a beefy rig!"

So what sort of prices should we expect to pay for the MTZ Radials?

Noisy or not?

How many km's should they last?

Any reports?

Coxy

coxy321 wrote:So what sort of prices should we expect to pay for the MTZ Radials?

Noisy or not?

How many km's should they last?

Any reports?

Coxy

They havent arrived yet, bit hard to report, and apparently they only come in 15inch wide, so, that would be 12inch wide rims?

For a daily driver is it?

bogged wrote:

bad_religion_au wrote:

beefa125 wrote:Those Mickey Thompson radial claws look the shit but arent they like 400 a pop and really a full time off road tyre ?

Looks like MTRS might be the go next time

nah closer to 290, and their a streetable muddie... your thinking of the bias ply claws i think... don't take no for an answer either, alot of 4x4 shops and tire joints made this fawk up when my bro was after them, telling him he was stupid for wanting a "bias ply" for street use... they;d be like "yeah radial claws, their a bias ply tire ".oh and these shops are pretty big movers in the 4x4 world. luckily he found somewhere than knew the difference

if your car came with radials, its illegal to run bias ply.

Do you know this for a fact because I emailed VicRoads about this and the reply I got from them was that "You can fit a Bias ply tyre as long as the load and speed rating is the same as or greater than the Radial tyre as nominated"

This may also be of interest to those in Vic that wish to run tyres with a different speed rating. I queried them with regards to running a "winter tread pattern"(Mud and snow type tyres) and this was also what I got back.

"
In regards to your question on tyre speed ratings in part you are correct.

Despite what is stated in relation to tyre specifications on the Tyre Placard there is provision under Schedule 8 of the Road Safety [Vehicles] Regulations to fit a tyre other than specified.

The minimum speed rating of the tyres for your vehicle is 140 KPHr

I refer in particular to regulation 52 of these regulations which is headed.

Tyres - Manufacture's rating.

Reg 52 [3]

A tyre fitted to a motor vehicle must when first manufactured, have been rated by the tyre manufacturer as suitable for use at the lesser of.

[52] [3] [a] [1]

A car with special features for off road use = 140 kilometres an hour,

The regulation gives further examples of various speed rating requirements for other vehicles and gives an example using [a] [1] as quoted above as being a four wheel drive vehicle

Part [4 ] States that this clause applies to a vehicle instead of the tyre speed category requirements in the relevant ADR. "

Thats why i dont like the authorities. I didn't get any of that stuff about what VicRoads said. Bloody rules...

I'd say to use those, they'd have to be on a bush rig. Don't think the blue bus of mine'd like it too much. 15" is HUGE!!

Coxy

cj wrote:Do you know this for a fact

its what a Vicroads Engineer told me when I got my car done yrs ago..

bogged wrote:

cj wrote:Do you know this for a fact

its what a Vicroads Engineer told me when I got my car done yrs ago..

Don't you hate it when you keep getting different information depending on when and who you talk to.

alrob wrote:

xplot wrote:

45punkbus wrote:radial claws are designed for on road use... its the bias ply claws that are not designed for on road use...

Do some more research buddy only 10% road and 90% off road

i think he meant that the radials are designed as a tyre which are able to be used on road, unlike the bias,

yep its what i ment... thanks for the back up...